'Petitioner, George H. Winkle, was convicted, by the Lenawee county circuit court on Janjiáry 31, 1958, for carrying, a concealed weapon and having possession of burglar.tools. Winkle waived •jury trial and moved to suppress the seized evidence, claiming an’ illegal search and seizure. Winkle’s motion to suppress was denied and he was convicted oí' both' counts and. sentenced to 4 to 5 years on the-concealed weapon count and to 5 to 10 years on the possession of burglar tools count. 'The conviction and sentences were affirmed on January 4, 1960, by this Court in People v. Winkle, 358 Mich 551.
Thereafter W^kle filed for habeas corpus and certiorari in this Court, and the petition was denied. A petition for 'certiorari was filed in the United States supreme court on May 12, 1961, seeking review of this Court’s order denying habeas corpus. The United States supreme court granted Winkle’s, motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis and granted certiorari November 6, 1961. On June 19, 1961, the United States supreme court decided the case of Mapp v. Ohio, 367 US 643 (81 S Ct 1684, 6 L ed 2d 1081, 84 ALR2d 933), and the attorney general of Michigan thereafter filed a response and suggested the cause be remanded to this Court for decision in the light of the Mapp Case.
' Since appeal petitioner Winkle has been free on bond.
Upon receipt of the mandate from the United States supreme court, this Court on December 11, 1961, vacated our earlier denial of habeas corpus and certiorari and ordered the cause to be rebriefed and submitted to us for reconsideration. Subsequent to oral argument, this Court further requested briefs'by the-committees on criminal jurisprudence *295•and civil liberties of the State Bar of 'Michigan, as parties amici curiae.
The following facts are undisputed by both- petitioner and respondent, and are accordingly adopted:
“On July 21, 1957, at approximately 2 a.m.,'petitioner George H, Winkle (hereinafter called Winkle), accompanied by Lee Casteel, was traveling west -on US-223, south of the city of Adrian, Michigan. As they approached the intersection- of US-223 and M-52, the traffic light regulating the intersection turned amber, Winkle came to a stop-on the corner of US-223 and M-52. Winkle waited for the traffic to clear on M-52, the north and .south roadway, and then before the traffic light turned green,'made a left-hand turn onto M-52 and proceeded south for approximately 100 feet and made another ■ left-hand turn into the driveway of the Bock Inn Motel. :
“Winkle had a few minutes prior, caused a telephone .call to be made to the Bock Inn Motel to determine the availability of accommodations on the particular night. As the Winkle car proceeded up the drive of the Bock Inn Motel they were. approached from behind by a Michigan State police patrol car carrying 2 Michigan State troopers. The officers honked their horn twice.an.they,approached the Winkle car and the Winkle- car came to a. stop, in the driveway, 20 feet east of the office of the Bock Inn Motel. Mr. Winkle got out of his car .’and proceeded to walk towards the Michigan State police car. The driver of the State police car, Trooper Bobert Golm, walked towards the Winkle. car and met Winkle somewhere in the vicinity of the rear humper of the Winkle car.
“Trooper Golm requested Winkle’s driver’s .license, and informed Winkle that they were stopping .his car for disobeying the red light. Winkle displayed to Trooper Golm a driver’s license bearing the name of George Henry Winkle.. He ' also . displayed a certificate of registration for the automobile which -he was - driving, in -the - name of Henry ; Wil*296liams. ’ Winkle explained tbe car was his brother-in-law’s. Therefore the name on the registration was different than on his driving license. Trooper Golm also requested information from Winkle as to his destination. While this conversation was occurring between Trooper Golm and Winkle, the other trooper, Anthony Pandol, was talking to Lee Casteel, the other occupant of the car. The troopers then switched, Trooper Golm going over to talk to Casteel and Trooper Pandol going over to talk to Winkle.
“Shortly after this, Trooper Golm returned and talked with Winkle and had by this time been given conflicting statements as to destination, purposes, et cetera.”
At this juncture, petitioner contends, Trooper Pandol walked up to the "Winkle car, without making an arrest, without knowledge of the conflicting statements made to Trooper Golm, and proceeded to make a search of the trunk of the vehicle. Respondent, however, asserts that information as to conflicting’ stories had either been exchanged by the troopers prior to opening the trunk or that both officers had obtained the conflicting stories separately and discussed the case prior to search. In this regard respondent refers to Trooper Golm’s testimony as to knowledge he and Pandol had at the moment prior to search: “Well, at the time I thought that something was strange, because of the 2 conflicting stories that they had given us.”
The record establishes that Winkle said he was going on a 2 or 3 weeks fishing vacation around Detroit and Pontiac. He said that the name of his partner was “Philbrick”; that he (Winkle) lived in a motel around Indianapolis, Indiana, and his partner lived in an apartment on Central street.
Casteel (Philbrick) told the trooper he was going to Toledo to see some girls; that he had to be back *297in Indianapolis on Monday, and that he and Winkle lived together in an apartment on Central street.
A search of the trunk yielded numerous burglar tools.2 Winkle and his partner were then handcuffed and placed in the police car. A detailed search of the vehicle also disclosed a concealed 38-caliber revolver.
When this case was first before us on leave to appeal in 358 Mich 551, our decision affirming the trial court rested solely on the validity of our Constitutional amendment, article 2, § 10, and no determination was made as to the reasonableness of the search.
Three questions will he answered in this opinion, namely:
1. Was the search and seizure an unreasonable and unlawful search?
2. Is Mapp v. Ohio, supra, applicable retrospectively?
3. Is the search and seizure exemption provision contained in article 2, § 10, of the Michigan Constitution (1908), as amended, unconstitutional and void and repugnant to and in conflict with the United States Constitution by reason of Mapp v. Ohio, thus requiring this Court to overrule its January 4, 1960, decision in People v. Winkle, 358 Mich 551?
1. Was the search and seizure an unreasonable and unlawful searchf
June 10, 1963, Mr. Justice Clark delivered the opinion of the United States supreme court in the case of Ker v. California, 374 US 23 (83 S Ct 1623, 10 L ed 2d 726). This case referred to the standard *298by which Staté searches and seizures must be evaluated, stating (pp 24, 25):
■ “This case raises search and seizure questions under the rule of Mapp v. Ohio, 367 US 643. * * * This being the first case arriving here since our opinion in Mapp which would afford suitable opportunity for further explication of that holding in the light of intervening experience, we granted certiorari.”
Justice Clark stated (pp 31, 32):
’“Preliminary to our examination of the search and seizures involved here, it might be helpful for us to indicate what was not decided in Mapp. First, it must be recognized that the ‘principles governing the admissibility of evidence in Federal criminal trials have not been restricted * * * to those derived solely from the Constitution. In the exercise of its supervisory authority over the administration of criminal justice in the Federal courts * * * this court has * * * formulated rules of evidence to be applied in Federal criminal prosecutions.’ McNabb v. United States (1943), 318 US 332, 341 (63 S Ct 608, 87 L ed 819); cf. Miller v. United States (1958), 357-US 301 (78 S Ct 1190, 2 L ed 2d 1332); Nardone v. United States (1937), 302 US 379 (58 S Ct 275, 82 L ed 314). Mapp, however, established no assumption by this court of supervisory authority over State courts, cf. Cleary v. Bolger (1963), 371 US 392, 401 (83 S Ct 385, 9 Led 2d 390), and, consequently j it implied no total obliteration of State laws relating to arrests and searches in favor of Federal law. Mapp sounded no death knell for our federalismrather, it echoed the sentiment of Elikins v. United States (1960), 364 US 206, 221 (80 S Ct 1437, 4 L ed 2d 1669), that ‘a healthy federalism depends upon the avoidance of needless conflicts between State and Federal courts’ by itself urging that ‘Federal-State cooperation in the solution of crime under constitutional' standards will be promoted, if *299only by recognition of their now mutual obligation, to respect the same fundamental criteria in their-approaches.’ 367 US at 658. (Emphasis added in Ker.) Second, Mapp did not attempt the impossible-task of laying down a ‘fixed formula’ for the application in specific cases of the constitutional prohibition against unreasonable searches and seizures; it recognized that we would be ‘met with “recurring questions of the reasonableness of searches” ’ and that,, ‘at any rate, “reasonableness is in the first instance for the [trial court] * # * to determine.” ’”
Justice Clark then added (pp 34, 35)3:
“The evidence at issue, in order to be admissible, must be the product of a search incident to a lawful arrest, since the officers had no search warrant. The lawfulness of the arrest without warrant, in turn, must be based upon probable cause, which exists, ‘where “the facts and circumstances within their [the officers’] knowledge and of which they had reasonably trustworthy information [are] sufficient in themselves to warrant a man of reasonable caution in the belief that” an offense has been or is being-committed.’ ”
The test that the officer do.es not have to have legal evidence, but only sufficient facts for a reasonably discreet and prudent man, was previously enunciated in Husty v. United States, 282 US 694, (51 S Ct 240, 75 L ed 629, 74 ALR 1407), where the court held:
“To show probable cause it is not necessary that the arresting officer should have had before him legal1 evidence of the suspected act. It is enough if the apparent facts which have come to his attention are - sufficient, in the circumstances, to lead a reasonably' discreet and prudent man to believe that liquor is illegally possessed in the automobile to be searched.”(Syllabus 2.)
*300‘ Petitioner concedes that in the instant case a police officer is given authority to arrest for traffic infractions (CL 1948, §764.15 [Stat Ann §28.874]), but contends “that no arrest having occurred, the search was unlawful and any item seized thereby should have been excluded,” (Brief in Oct No 83, 1959.) i
Petitioner points out that some act designed to inform the individual of his arrest must occur. The people’s brief in the earlier case conceded this to be correct, and quotes 2 MLP, Arrest, § 6, p 489, as follows :
1 “Although a manual seizure is not necessary, there must be some sort of personal coercion to effectuate an arrest; there is no arrest where an officer, neither taking into custody the person to be arrested nor in any way depriving him of freedom of action, merely informs him of the officer’s business,”
and emphasizes the following from Hill v. Taylor, 50 Mich 549, 552:
“The officer appears to have done no, more than inform him of his business, but he never took him into custody, and never, as plaintiff testifies, deprived him of freedom of action.”
The people contend that not only was the petitioner deprived of freedom of action that constituted an arrest, but that Winkle was well aware of that fact, because, as stated in the people’s original brief, “with 2 uniformed officers pulling up behind one in .these circumstances with an insistent honking of a •horn has only 1 meaning to a motorist and he realizes that stopping his vehicle is a necessity not a matter of his will any longer. That Winkle well understood this is clearly indicated by his actions in stopping immediately right in the middle "of the drive although there were parking places, even leaving his lights burning coming back immediately to meet the officers *301and not going in the direction of the motel office iff-' the words of Trooper Colm — ‘told him that we-stopped him for disobeying the red light’ was-‘asked’ to produce his operators license and registration and was questioned at some length by 2 troopers.A familiar scene to anyone who drives a motor vehicle. The classic encounter with the traffic cop.' Is it possible that appellant at any time from the moment he was stopped by the honking of the horn and the authority of the vehicle marking and occupants and at any rate from the moment he was advised of the reason for the action, could misinterpret his status as being under the control of the officer as an arrested person, temporarily perhaps, but-none the less arrested? Is it conceivable that after being advised of the violation for which he was1 stopped Mr.- Winkle could believe that, if he should! he so inclined, he could tell the officer he was moving, on, climb hack into his vehicle and leave without permission from the officer?”
I disagree with petitioner’s statement that “what was said in People v. Gonzales, 356 Mich 247, is particularly applicable to and is determinative of petitioner’s fact situation and issues raised thereby as contained in the record.”
The first paragraph of Judge Edwards’ opinion in Gonzales is as follows (p 250):
“This ease poses 2 important questions. The first is: May police who stop an automobile on a Michigan highway to issue a traffic ticket also routinely search the automobile under Michigan law? We answer this question in the negative. The second is: Are certain amendments to the Michigan Constitution authorizing admission into evidence of concealed weapons, however seized outside the curtilage of a dwelling house, repugnant to the United States Constitution.? Under .'controlling decisions of the - *302United States supreme court, we answer' this question in'the negative also.”
Gonzales was a passenger in an automobile that was stopped by State police because the car in which he was riding had only one headlight burning-. No /other fact was offered by the people to justify the subsequent search that resulted in the finding of a rgun in the car and a bullet in Gonzales’ possession. ■In Gonzales, this Court not only held that a traffic violation did not justify a routine search of the automobile stopped, but, also, held that an arrest consists of any act subjecting the person to the actual ¡control and will of the person making the arrest and .that police officers who see a traffic violation have authority to arrest the violator without a warrant.
The officers clearly indicated their intent, by their acts, to place petitioner under their actual control,, and we agree with the people that:
“The issuance of the. summons is not. involved in the question at all, , Nearly all arrests (except for offenses in which life1 imprisonment is a possible result) end sooner or later. In the case of the criminal it ends with his release from jail or prison when he is again free to determine his own course of action; in the case of the violating motorist, his arrest, probably brief in • duration, ends with the presentation of the summons when he too is free to determine his own course of action without interference from the officer. It is difficult to see how, where one is in fact deprived of his liberty by the officer, and Imoius it, luhether so informed by word or deed or both, the fact can bp changed by the duration of the deprivation, or the means or place of its termination.” (Attorney General’s brief, No 83, .October 1959.) -
The following facts and circumstances were well • known to the arresting officers: (1) It was 2 a.m.. ;Sunday; (2) The automobile was legally stopped;!. *303(3) The car was not registered in the name-of either' occupant; (4)-There was an open bottle of vodka on-the-front seat of the automobile; (5) The-men were: from Indiana and the driver displayed a Florida-driver’s license; (6) The occupants told the troopers; completely and radically conflicting stories as to* their places of residence, their destination, the purpose of their trip, and the length of their intended stay.
The facts and conflicting statements of petitioner and his associate were completely inconsistent and irreconcilable with those of innocent travelers on the highway.
These facts would not only justify a law-enforcing; officer who was reasonably discreet and prudent to' conduct the search that uncovered the nitroglycerine; detonater caps, and a complete set of burglar tools,. plus a concealed weapon, but were of such a nature that any failure to conduct the investigation, such as the troopers conducted in this case, would have constituted action that would justify reprimand for failure to carry out their duty.
The record in this case clearly shows that the search and seizure was not unreasonable nor unlawful. !
2. Is Mapp v. Ohio supra, applicable retrospectivelyf
The district court in Maryland was faced with this question in the case of Hall v. Warden, Maryland Penitentiary, 201 F Supp 639, decided January 23, 1962, and the court said (p 643):
Until the supreme court itself clarifies the point, it is impossible for any-other court or judge to be certain whether and to what extent the supreme court intended the--decision in Mapp v. Ohio to be. retrospective. A majority of the court of appeals of-New York has „con,eluded that.the exclusionary'rule-staled herein-'should-be ap-pliéd in .a case where- the. judg> *304'ment of conviction had not yet become final, because of a pending appeal, at the time Mapp v. Ohio was decided. People v. Loria (November 30, 1961), 10 NY2d 368 (223 NYS2d 462, 179 NE2d 478). See, also, Shorey v. State (January 23, 1962), 227 Md 385 (177 A2d 245). But it has not yet been held in any case cited or found that all persons convicted in i State courts during the period between Wolf v. Colorado, 338 US 25 (69 S Ct 1359, 93 L ed 1782), and Mapp v. Ohio are entitled to a new trial or release if any evidence, obtained as the result of an ■unreasonable search and seizure was admitted at their trial, even though the judgment of conviction ■may have become final long before Mapp was decided and whether or not the point was raised at the trial.
! “In view of the frequent use in Mr. Justice Clark’s opinion of such words as ‘then’, ‘today’, and ‘no longer’, and the reasons given for the supreme court’s previous refusal to impose the Weeks [Weeks v. United States, 232 US 383 (34 S Ct 341, 58 L ed 652, LRA 1915B, 834, Ann Cas 1915C, 1177)] exclusionary rule on the States, such an extreme construction appears unwarranted. I conclude that Mapp v. Ohio was not intended to require that a new trial or release must be granted to a person convicted in a State court because evidence obtained as the result of an unlawful search was admitted in evidence at the trial, where the point was not raised at the trial and the judgment had become final before the decision of the supreme court in the Mapp Case. See Gaitan v. United States (CCA 10), 295 F2d 277, 279, 280. In the case at bar the point was not raised at the trial or on appeal from the conviction, and the judgment had become final before Mapp v. Ohio. So) even if the evidence had been illegally seized, its admission would not have deprived petitioner of his constitutional rights.”
I Neither Mapp v. Ohio nor Ker v. California, supra, gives us an answer to this question and until such an answer is forthcoming, this Court will follow the *305Maryland and Colorado Federal and New York State courts’ reasoning above set forth, and hold that Mapp v. Ohio is not applicable retrospectively except in a case like the present one where the judgment had not become final at the time of Mapp v. Ohio because an appeal from the judgment was pending.
3. Is the search and seizure exemption provision contained in article 2, § 10, of the Michigan Constitution (1908), as amended, unconstitutional, void and repugnant to and in conflict with the United States Constitution by reason of Mapp v. Ohio, thus' requiring this Cou,rt to overrule its January é, 1960, decision in People v. Winkle, 358 Mich 551?
This Court has repeatedly held that constitutional questions will not be passed upon where other questions are raised which dispose of the case.
This case, due to its procedural history, is not disposed of by our holding in point 1, as is disclosed by the following quotations from the brief filed by the' respondent (attorney general) and the' brief filed by the State Bar' of Michigan’s committee on criminal jurisprudence.
Quoting from the brief for respondent:
“Subsequent to (trial court) decision a petition for habeas corpus was filed in the Supreme Court Of Michigan and denied on April 26, 1961. On May 12,-1961, a petition for certiorari was filed in the office of the clerk of the United States supreme court seeking review of the order denying habeas corpus.
“The supreme court of the United States decided the case of Mapp v. Ohio, 367 US 643, on June 19, 1961.
“The attorney general of Michigan filed his' response and the supreme court entered an order as follows:
“ ‘The motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis and the petition for writ of certiorari are granted. The judgment is vacated and, as suggested by the' attorney general of Michigan,' the case is i-e*306manded for Consideration in light of Mapp v. Ohio, 367 US 643.’
“Upon receipt of the mandate from- the supreme court of' the United States, the Supreme Court of Michigan on the 11th day of December, 1961, entered an order as follows :
“‘Upon receiving and filing the mandate of the supreme- court of the United States in this cause, it is ordered that the order heretofore entered herein on April 26, 1961, denying habeas corpus and certio-rari to the circuit court for the county of Lenawee be and the. same is hereby vacated and held for naught and that the cause be rebriefed and resubmitted to this Court for reconsideration in the light of Mapp v. Ohio 367 US 643.’ ”
From the brief of the committee on criminal jurisprudence, State Bar of Michigan, we quote:
“This Court has invited the State Bar of Michigan to submit briefs amicus curiae on the application of Mapp v. Ohio to the issues of People v. Winkle. The State Bar’s 'committee on criminal jurisprudence does so herein, limiting itself to these 2 related questions :
“1. Does Mapp v. Ohio cause article 2, § 10, of the Michigan. Constitution of 1908, as amended to date, to be in- violation of the Constitution of the United States?
.< “2. Does Mapp v. Ohio require this Court to overrule its own January 4, 1960, decision in People v. Winkle, 358 Mich 551?
“We submit that both questions require a negative answer. Because we feel this case requires a clear-cut decision on the Federal constitutionality of existing Michigan law, we intentionally avoid" presenting any other basis for upholding People v. Winkle, 358 Mich 551. We hope that no other such basis:will be employed. By-the Court.”
: In making, an'exception to -our otherwise continue ing -policy, of: avoiding'.mnnecessary- constitutional-, *307decisions, we are also aware of the fact that in fhe interests of effective law enforcement, law-enforcing officials and the courts of this State must he clearly advised of what is and what is not permissible, search and seizure. We are also aware that our avoiding, the constitutional question could lead to'the implication that: (1) our prior decision rested- on article. 2, § 10, of the Michigan Constitution; (2) the United States supreme court at 368 US 34 (remand order) vacated such prior judgment; (3) the United States; supreme court in its order of remand to this Court for further consideration cited Mapp v. Ohio, supra,' as our guide in such reconsideration;. (4) this,Court now decides the case on a ground Other than the. constitutional question; (5) therefore,, this Court! has implied that Mapp v. Ohio has affected our view1 of the constitutionality of article 2, § 10, of the Michiir gan Constitution.
For the above reasons we believe the constitutional, question must be considered. /'
Michigan has been a leading State in its effort; to,' safeguard its citizens against illegal search and¡ seizure. .
We. find Michigan’s illustrious jurist, Cooley, in 1874 (Weimer v. Bunbury, 30 Mich 201, 208) making the following comment upon the then section ■ 26 ■ of article 6 of the Constitution (1850) : “Its main purpose was to make sacred'the privacy of the citizen’s dwelling and person agaihst everything ‘but process1 issued upon a showing of legal cause for invading it.”'
The provisions' of our recent 1908 .Constitution relating to search and seizure (article 2) § 10) were' commented upon in 19l9 in People v. Marxhausen, 204 Mich 559, 562 (3 ALR 1505) .as follows:
“Section lO, art 2, of the Constitution of the State, provides:
*308• “ ‘The person, houses, papers and possessions of every person shall be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. No warrant to search any place or to seize any person or things shall issue without describing them, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation.’
“This provision is the same as found in the Constitution of 1850 (art 6, § 26), and with the exception of the use of the word ‘person’ in place of the word ‘individual’ the same as found in the Constitution of 1835. It is in effect the same provision found in the Fourth Amendment to the Federal Constitution,”
In the Marxhausen Case this Court reviewed the background of facts that led up to the adoption of the Fourth Amendment to the Federal Constitution and called attention to the arbitrary, unlawful conduct of (p 561) “a practice [that] had grown up in England, of issuing so-called writs of assistance, originally by the Star Chamber and later by the secretary of state, under color of which messengers of the king entered any and all places agreeable to themselves, searched and seized such papers and evidences as their will dictated,” and referred to the 1766 resolution in the House of Commons condemning these illegal searches and seizures, quoting Chatham as follows (p 565):
“ ‘Every man’s house is called his castle. Why? Because it is surrounded by a moat, or defended by a wall? No. It may be a straw-built hut; the wind may whistle around it, the rain may enter it, but the king cannot,”
and finally concluded the historical review of events leading up to the adoption of the Fourth Amendment by stating, (p 566).:, “These events which we have but given in outline occurred within the memory of *309the men who formulated and adopted the Forirth Amendment.”
From the earliest days to the present time, a Michigan citizen has not only been “king of his castle,” bnt all he possessed “within the curtilage.”
In People v. Taylor (1851), 2 Mich 250, this Court defined “curtilage” as a “court-yard, back-side, or piece of ground lying near and belonging to a dwelling-house,” and as “a space of ground within a common enclosure, belonging to a dwelling-house.”
In 1850, this Court in Pond v. People, 8 Mich 150, held that a building 36 feet distant from a man’s house, used for preserving the nets employed in the owner’s occupation as a fisherman, is, in law, a part of his dwelling although not included with the house by a fence. The Court held that a fence is not necessary to include buildings within the curtilage, if, within a space no larger than that usually occupied for the dwelling and customary outbuildings.
In 1914, Weeks v. United States, 232 US 383 (34 S Ct 341, 58 L ed 652, LRA 1915B, 834, Ann Cas 1915C, 1177), created the Federal “exclusionary rule,” holding that the Fourth Amendment barred the use of evidence secured by illegal search and seizure in a Federal prosecution, but also holding that Weeks had no bearing upon admissibility of evidence in State courts.
In 1949, Wolf v. Colorado, 338 US 25 (69 S Ct 1359, 93 L ed 1782), held that the right to privacy under the Fourth Amendment was enforceable against the States through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, but held that the Weeks exclusionary rule did not apply to the States as an essential part of the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process.
In Elkins v. United States, 364 US 206, 224-232 (80 S Ct 1437, 4 L ed 2d 1669), the court set forth a table of States and their rules on admissibility of *310evidence4,..disclosing that between tbe Weeks decision (1914) and the Wolf decision (1949) 18 States had excluded evidence of illegal search, and Michigan, in 1919 (People v. Marxhausen, supra), was the first State to so exclude.
In 1905 this Court took judicial notice of the problem of law enforcement that was created by the arrival of the automobile in an appeal (People v. Schneider, 139 Mich 673 [69 LRA 345, 5 Ann Cas 790]) involving the right of the city of Detroit to register automobiles, by stating (p 675): “We may take judicial notice that many of these automobiles may be driven at a speed of at least 40 miles an hour.” (Emphasis ours.)
In 1922, Justice Steere writing for a majority of this Court,-in People v. Case, 220 Mich 379 (27 ALR 686), recognized the problem (pp 388, 389):
“The automobile is a swift and powerful vehicle of recent development which has multiplied by quantity production and taken possession of our highways in battalions until the slower animal-drawn vehicles with their easily noted individuality are rare. Constructed as covered vehicles to standard form in immense quantities, and with a capacity for speed rivaling express-trains, they-furnish for successful commission of crime a disguising means of silent approach and swift escape unknown in the history of the world before their advent. The question of their police control and reasonable search on highways or other public places is a serious question far deeper and brqader than their use in so-called, ‘bootlegging’ or ‘rum running,’ which in itself is no small *311matter.' While a possession in the' sense 'of private ownership, they are but a vehicle constructed for travel and transportation on highways.' Their active use is not in homes nor on private premises, the privacy of which the law especially guards from search and seizure without process. The baffling extent to which they are successfully utilized to facilitate commission of crime of all degrees, from those against morality, chastity, and decency to. robbery, rape, burglary, and murder is a matter of common knowledge. Upon that problem a condition and not a theory confronts proper administration of our criminal laws. Whether search of and seizure from an automobile upon a highway or other public place without a search warrant is unreasonable is in its final analysis to be determined as a judicial question in view.of all the circumstances under which it is made.”
■ In People v. Roache (1927), 237 Mich 215, this Court held that the defendant should be discharged on the charge of illegal possession of liquor because the only evidence was obtained by an illegal search of defendant’s automobile. Justice Clark dissenting (Justices Nelson Sharpe and Steere joining), commented upon the automobile problem as follows (pp 220, 221):
“The automobile has come to be the convenient instrument of bandits and rum runners. So used, it presents a most difficult problem' to officers in their efforts to solve crime. If the rules relative to. search and seizure, as supplied to the home, be applied with like rigor to the automobile in public places, the automobile bandit and the rum runner are practically immune. That there is' a necessary difference between the search of á home and the search of an automobile is recognized. Cardella Case (People v. Cardella, 233 Mich 505). Under most liberal rules as jto probable cause to. search, the officer’s problem; remains difficult. We are., dealing with a-condition, *312a prevalence of crime, menacing to and destructive of the social order.. We are not confronted with theory in the abstract. The well known constitutional provision does not denounce ‘all searches and seizures, but only such as are unreasonable.’ Carroll v. United States, 267 US 132 (45 S Ct 280, 69 L ed 543, 39 ALR 790); People v. Case, 220 Mich 379 (27 ALR 686).”
December 29, 1933, this Court, in People v. Stein, 265 Mich 610 (92 ALR 481), held that a pistol uncovered as the result of an illegal search of a taxicab could not be admitted in evidence, and following this decision, by joint resolution of the house and senate, an amendment to the Michigan Constitution was proposed.
The attorney general calls to this Court’s attention the circumstances that existed before and at the time of the vote upon this amendment, because the circumstances contributed to the adoption of the amendment, as follows:
“Preceding the vote in November of 1936, the State was plagued with the activities of a vicious organization known as the Black Legion. This organization dealt in senseless- murder and in venting its spleen on persons of different creeds and colors. Its activities were well known in the State through trials or examinations held in Detroit and vicinity. See the record in People v. Pettijohn, 283 Mich 108 (October, 1937, Docket No 126), a case charging conspiracy to murder the mayor of Ecorse; the record in People v. Lee, 334 Mich 217 (April 1952, Docket Nos 82 and 83), involving a murder of a Negro citizen to satisfy lust for murder and to provide target practice; and record on application of Lowell Rushing to leave to appeal (Calendar No 49178-1/2) a case involving the murder of a man because he was a Roman Catholic married to a Protestant woman and the members of *313the Black Legion believed he had beaten his wife. # #
“Recognizing the Black Legion for what it was, the Michigan Senate passed a resolution on April 20, 1937, reading as follows:
“ ‘A resolution congratulating the Detroit police •department for their work in connection with the breaking up of the Black Legion.’ ”
In 1936 the people readopted the first 2 sentences ■of article 2, § 10, of their 1908 Constitution, which read:
“The person, houses, papers and possessions of •every person shall be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. No warrant to search any place or to seize any person or things shall issue without describing them, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation,”
and then added the following proviso:
“Provided, however, That the provisions of this section shall not be construed to bar from evidence in any court of criminal jurisdiction, or in any criminal proceeding held before any magistrate or justice of the peace, any firearm, rifle, pistol, revolver, automatic pistol, machine gun, bomb, bomb shell, explosive, blackjack, slungshot, billy, metallic knuckles, gas-ejecting device, or any other dangerous weapon or thing, seized by any peace officer outside the curtilage of any dwelling house in this State.”
In 1952 the legislature proposed, and the people ratified, another amendment to article 2, § 10, by adding the words “any narcotic drug or drugs.”
In 1963, when the people of this State adopted their new Constitution, effective January 1, 1964, .they retained the proviso adopted 27 years ago, and *314readoptéd 10 years ago/ by providing' (article 1, §11):
“The person, houses, papers and possessions of every person shall be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. No warrant to search any place or to seize any person or things shall issue without describing them, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation. The provisions of this section shall not be construed to bar from evidence in any criminal proceeding any narcotic drug, firearm, bomb, explosive or any other dangerous weapon, seized .by a police officer outside the curtilage of any dwelling house in this State.”
Petitioner contends that Mapp v. Ohio destroyed this will, wish and desire of the people of this State that has withstood the test of time from the travails, of the Black Legion days down to the more peaceful days that have followed up to and including the present time, stating: “The search and seizure exemption provision contained in article 2, § 10, of the Michigan Constitution is by reason of Mapp v. Ohio repugnant to, in conflict with and in derogation of the Constitution, statutes and laws of the United, States, and is not a proper exercise of the police power of the State but is unconstitutional and void.”’
The law applicable and the pertinent facts in regard to the search and seizure in Mapp and the present appeal, Winkle, were entirely different.
In Ohio evidence obtained in a..search of defendant’s home was admissible in a Criminal prosecution, even though obtained by an unlawful search and seizure, if not taken from defendant’s person by the use of brutal or offensive force (State v. Mapp, 170-Ohio St 427 [166 NE2d 387]).
*315Mr. Justice Clark, in Mapp v. Ohio, labeled the act of the law-enforcing officers (p 655) as “official lawlessness” and “a flagrant abuse” of basic rights, and set forth the following facts in regard to that search (pp 644, 645):
“On May 23, 1957, 3 Cleveland police officers arrived at appellant’s residence in that city pursuant to information that ‘a person [was] hiding out in the home, who was wanted for questioning in connection with a recent bombing, and that there was a large ■amount of policy paraphernalia being hidden in the home.” Miss Mapp and her daughter by a former marriage lived on the top floor of the 2-family dwelling. * * * '
“Running roughshod over appellant, a policeman ■‘grabbed’ her, ‘twisted [her] hand,’ and she ‘yelled £and] pleaded with him’ because ‘it was hurting.’ Appellant,- in handcuffs, was then forcibly taken upstairs to her bedroom where the officers searched a dresser,- a chest of drawers, a closet and some suitcases. They also looked into a photo album and through personal papers belonging' to .the appellant. The search spread to the rest of the second floor ini eluding the child’s bedroom, '.'the- living- room,’ the kitchen and a dinette. The basement of the building and a trunk found therein were also searched. ■ The obscene materials for possession of" which she whs ultimately convicted were discovered in the course of that widespread search.
. “At the trial no search warrant was produced by the prosecution, nor was the failure to produce one .explained or accounted for.”
■ Mr. Justice Douglas in concurring, believing the facts of the search and seizure were so flagrant as to .require repetition, stated (pp 666, 667):-
r “This criminal proceeding started with a lawless search and seizure. The police entered a home forcefully, and seized documents that were later used td -convict ’the -occupant.‘of a crime.. She .lived alone' *316witb her 15-year-old daughter in the second-floor flat of a duplex in Cleveland.”
Mr. Justice Douglas further stated that to allow “the ‘shabby business’ of unlawful entry into a home,” would rob the Fourth Amendment of meaningful force, and referred to the unusual facts surrounding the search of Miss Mapp’s home, as follows (pp 670, 671):
“Wolf v. Colorado, supra, was decided in 1949. The immediate result was a storm of constitutional controversy which only today finds its end. I believe that this is an appropriate case in which to put an end to the asymmetry which Wolf imported into the law. * * * It is an appropriate case because the facts it presents show — as would few other cases— the casual arrogance of those who have the untrammelled power to invade one’s home and to seize one’s person.”
A search conducted in Michigan comparable to the Mapp search would not have been condoned under our constitutional law, but would have been condemned. Winkle’s home was not searched, but an automobile he was driving which was not registered in this name.
The obscene printed material seized in the Mapp home would not be an item that would be admissible under the Michigan proviso.
In addition to calling attention to the vast difference between the facts in Mapp and Winkle,101 quote the following from the Mapp decision to show the lack of unanimity in deciding State rights even under the Mapp circumstances.
Four members of the court (Mr. Justice Harlan, Mr.. Justice Frankfurter, Mr. Justice Whittaker, and Mr. Justice Stewart) subscribed to the statement (pp 674, 672, 676, 677):
*317“Five members of this court have, simply ‘reached ■out’ to overrule Wolf. * * * The Wolf rule represents sounder constitutional doctrine than the new rule which-now replaces it. * * *
“The occasion which the Court "has taken here is in'the context of a case where the question was briefed not at all and argued only extremely tangentially’ The unwisdom of overruling Wolf without full-dress argument is aggravated by the circumistanee that' that decision is a comparatively recent •one (1949) to which 3 members of the present majority have at one time or other expressly subscribed, •one to be sure with explicit misgivings. I would think that our obligation to the States, on whom we impose this new rule, as well as the obligation of •orderly adherence to our own processes would demand that we seek that aid which adequate briefing ;and argument lends to the determination of an important issue.”
Mr. Justice Black, after stating that in concurring in the 1949 Wolf v. Colorado decision he made known in his opinion that the Fourth Amendment,- while prohibiting unreasonable search and seizure, did not ibar the use of evidence so unlawfully obtained, added 'the following in his concurring opinion in the Mapp •Case (pp 661, 662) :
“I am still not persuaded that the Fourth Amend-ment, standing alone, would be enough to bar the introduction into evidence against an accused of -papers and effects seized from him in violation of its -commands. For the Fourth Amendment does not Itself contain any provision expressly precluding the use of such evidence, and I am extremely doubtful that such a provision could properly be inferred from nothing more than the basic, command against unreasonable searches and.seizures. Reflection on the problem, however, in the light of cases coming before the court since Wolf, has led me to conclude that when the Fourth Amendment’s ban against unrea*318sonable searches and seizures is considered together with the Fifth Amendment’s ban against compelled self-incrimination, a constitutional basis emerges which not only justifies but actually requires the' exclusionary rule.”
Mr. Justice Harlan, in Mapp, comments on Justice Black’s refusal to join “four members of the majority,” as follows (pp 685, 686):
“In conclusion, it should be noted that the majority opinion in this case is in fact an opinion only for the judgment overruling Wolf, and not for the basic rationale by which 4 members of the majority have' reached that result. For my Brother Black is unwilling to subscribe to their view that the Weeks exclusionary rule derives from the Fourth Amendment itself, but joins the majority opinion on the premise that its end result can be achieved by bringing the Fifth Amendment to the aid of the Fourth. .On that score I need only say that whatever the validity of the ‘Fourth-Fifth Amendment’ correlation which the Boyd Case (Boyd v. United States, 116 US 616 [ 6 S Ct 524, 29 L ed 746]) found, see 8 Wigmore, Evidence (3d ed, 1940), § 2184, we have only very recently again reiterated the long-established doctrine of this court that the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination is not applicable to the States.” See Cohen v. Hurley, 366 US 117 (81 S Ct 954, 6 L ed 2d 156).
Ker v. California, 374 US 23 (83 S Ct 1623, 10 L ed 2d 726), affirmed defendants’ (husband and wife) conviction of possession of marijuana, denying defendants’ contention that their arrest in their apartment, without warrant, lacked probable cause., Mr. Justice Clark (joined by Mr. Justice Black, Mr.. Justice White, and Mr. Justice Stewart), at the outset of the opinion, stated (p 25): “This being the first case arriving here since our opinion in Mappwhich would afford suitable opportunity for further *319•explication of that holding in the light of intervening •experience, we granted certiorari.”
Mr. Justice Harlan, concurring in the Ker result, •stated (p 45):
“The rule is unwise because the States, with their •differing law-enforcement problems, should not be put in a constitutional strait jacket, and also because the States, more likely than not, will be placed in an ■atmosphere of uncertainty since this,court’s decisions in the realm of search and seizure are hardly notable for their predictability. * * * (The latter point is indeed forcefully illustrated by the fact that in the first application of its new constitutional rule the majority finds itself equally divided.)”
Mr. Justice Brennan “with whom The Chief Justice, Mr. Justice Douglas, and Mr. Justice Groldberg join,” dissents, and comments upon the lack of unanimity in the Ker decision as follows:
“When we declared in Mapp that, because the rights of the Fourth Amendment were of no lesser •dignity than those of the other liberties of the Bill •of Bights absorbed in the Fourteenth, <# * * we •can no longer permit * * * [them] to be- revocable at the whim of any police officer who, in the name of law enforcement itself, chooses to. suspend [their] * * * enjoyment,’ 367 US at 660 — -I thought by these words we had laid to rest the very ■problems of constitutional dissonance which I fear the present case so soon revives.”
The committee on criminal jurisprudénce of the 'State Bar of Michigan in its brief stating there ■should be a negative vote to the question: “Does Mapp v. Ohio cause article 2, § 10, of the Michigan Constitution of 1908, as amended to date, to .be in violation of the Constitution of the United States?” ;says:
“The United States supreme court has never answered the question whether the Michigan-proviso, *320or anything substantially like'it, constitutes a “reasonable implementation of the rights reserved to the States under the Federal Tenth Amendment. , This, question remains open.”
The committee majors the following:
1. “When the electorate of this State accepted the-proviso in 1936, when they amended it in 1952, and when they reaffirmed their support for it in the new Constitution of 1963, they did so in the context of the-clear precept of the first sentence of article 2, § 10:
“ ‘The person, houses, papers and possessions of every person shall be secure from unreasonable-searches and seizures.’
“They did not intend to nullify the first sentence-They merely supplemented it. If nullification was intended, why did they in 1963 readopt both the first-sentence together with the proviso? To the contrary, the 2 portions of article 2, § 10, work together. The first part protects against unreasonableness. The proviso enunciates that the seizure of particular-dangerous items outside the home is reasonable.
“The first construction suggested above creates conflict, requiring the ultimate destruction of one-provision or the other. The second creates harmony. It saves the whole. It makes all parts meaningful-The second, which accepts the proviso as a reasonable interpretation of man’s right against unlawful search and seizure, is the more desirable, the more-logical.”
2. - “Essentially, the Ker court tells us that in State-prosecutions in State courts evidence is inadmissible-if the result of an unreasonable search and seizure.. But Ker recognizes that the concept of a reasonable-search and seizure as relates to the States is not governed by any fixed formula. Mapp did not totally obliterate State search and seizure laws; it does not require States to follow Federal evidentiary rules. States are not precluded from developing their own workable search and seizure rules to meet *321practical criminal investigation and law enforcement needs, — so long as such rules do not condone unreasonable searches and seizures. To the extent States can work out reasonable rules which restrict search and seizure to reasonable limitations, they are free to do so according to their practical law-enforcement needs. And, the United States supreme court recognizes that local law-enforcement needs may vary with the particular conditions and circumstances. * * *
“Mapp does not outlaw the Michigan proviso, because the proviso is a reasonable application of the leeway Mapp and Ker reserve to the States to work out their own rules so long as they do not condone unreasonable search and seizure. And the proviso, read and interpreted as above, does not do that.”
3. “The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution should not be overlooked.
“ ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.’ (Emphasis added.)
“The United States supreme court in Mapp, 367 US 643 at 653, recognized this reservation of State power by pointing out that:
“ ‘Because there can be no fixed formula, we are admittedly met with “recurring questions of the reasonableness of searches,” * * * and, at any rate, “reasonableness is in the first instance for the trial court * * * to determine.” ’ (Emphasis added.)
“In Ker v. California (supra, 31, 83 S Ct 1629], 10 L ed 2d at 736, that court noted:
“ ‘Mapp, however, established no assumption by this court of supervisory authority over State courts, * * * and, consequently, it implied no total obliteration of State laws relating to arrests and searches in favor of Federal law. Mapp sounded no death knell for our federalism.’ (Emphasis added.)’
“And Ker continued [p 34, 83 S Ct 1630], 10 L ed 2d at 738:
*322“ lThe States are not * * * precluded from developing workable rules governing arrests, searches and seizures to meet “the practical demands of effective criminal investigation and laiv enforcement” in the States.’ (Emphasis added.)”
4. “The right to freedom from unreasonable search and .seizure must remain inviolate. But within the scope of that which is reasonable, as relates to enforcement of State laws in State courts, the reserved right of the States and their people to set items of contraband, and physical and moral destruction, aside for special treatment is a federally guaranteed right under the Tenth Amendment, — and the Tenth Amendment must be given equal consideration with the Fourth.”
When this Court decided People v. Gonzales (1959), 356 Mich.247, the United States decision of Wolf v. Colorado, supra, prevailed, and that decision did not say we should not follow the exclusionary rule, but merely left it up to our judgment as to whether we should or should not.
This Court unanimously held in Gonzales (p 263) “article 2, § 10, as last amended in 1952, not offensive to the United States Constitution.”
In the writer’s opinion, our decision in Gorizales, namely, that we had the right and duty to honor the •people’s command as expressed in their Constitution, was forcibly expressed by the then Justice Talbot Smith (now United States district judge, sixth circuit) when.he wrote (pp 264, 265):
“The Constitution does not define liberty, nor do we. In an absolute sense it does not exist. A myriad of commands we follow daily. But not every intrusion upon our person or property is an encroachment .so gross that the spirit becomes hostage to the act and we are-no longer free. Much will depend upon the circumstances attendant. The car search itself, *323in the vicinity of a prison- break, may be more an act of mercy than an act of oppression. The concept of freedom, then, has no fixed content. Always there is the problem of balance. The freedom of one man necessarily involves the correlative restraint of his. brother. Specifically, and with reference to the-criminal (law, we are sensitive to the constitutional rights of alleged or convicted criminals. (See dissent, People v. Moore, 344 Mich 137, reversed, Moore v. Michigan, 355 US 155 [78 S Ct 191, 2 L ed 2d 167].) But equally sensitive are we to the demands; of our people that they be as secure as may be from violence and pillage. All too often, as we know judicially, the automobile is handmaiden to the assassin. Learned Hand put the problem .we will someday reach in these words:
“ ‘The protection of the. individual from oppression and abuse by the policé and other ■ enforcing-«officers is indeed a-major interest in a free society; but so is the effective prosecution of crime, an interest which at times seems to be forgotten. Perfection is impossible;. like other human institutions criminal proceedings must be a compromise.’ ” [In re Fried (CCA 2), 161 F2d 453, 465 (1 ALR2d 996).I
The first 10 amendments to the United States Consituatión were proposed in 1789 and ratified in 1791r and the Fourteenth Amendment was proposed in 1866 and ratified in 1868.
The first time the United States supreme court decided that the Fourth Amendment called for the adoption of an exclusionary rule, solely in the Federal court, was 123 years after the adoption of the' Fourth Amendment, and this fact was commented upon in Mapp by Mr. Justice Clark, as follows (p~ 648):
“Finally, the Court in that case (Weeks v. United States, 232 US 383, 398 [34 S Ct 341, 58 L ed 652, LRA 1915B, 834, Ann Cas 1915C, 1177]) clearly stated that use of the seized evidence involved ‘a *324denial of the constitutional rights of the accused.’ * * * Thus, in the year 1914, in the Weeks Case, this court ‘for the first time’ held that ‘in a Federal prosecution the Fourth Amendment barred the use of evidence secured through an illegal search and seizure.’ ”
The common law did not sanction the exclusionary rule. Justice Cooley, in the 1874 Michigan decision, Weimer v. Bunbury, 30 Mich 201, commented on the common law and the bill of rights, stating (p 214):
“The truth is, the bills of rights in the American constitutions have not been drafted for the introduction of new law, but to secure old principles against abrogation or violation. They are conservatory instruments rather' than reformatory; and they assume that the existing principles of the common law •are ample for the protection of individual rights, when once incorporated in the fundamental law, and thus secured against violation.”
It is evident that man’s locomotion in 1791 when the Fourth Amendment was ratified did not and could not contemplate the speed or the problems of law enforcement that were created by the automobile.
Nothing in the amendments point toward a distinction between automobiles and homes in regard to necessity for a search warrant in making a legal search, but that distinction has been definitely made by our United States supreme court, and was probably created because of such problems of law enforcement as are referred to in our Michigan decisions mentioned' above.
■ The Michigan proviso does not condone illegal search. It was an expression by the people of this ' State to the citizenry that if they have in their possession, outside the curtilage of their dwelling, drugs, firearms, or dangerous weapons, or things, said possessor would not have the right to question the *325legality of the search as a defense to illegal possession.
That the States should not he circumscribed in the exercise of the police power, is clearly recognized by the United States supreme court and was expressed in Salsburg v. Maryland, 346 US 545, 550 (74 S Ct 280, 98 L ed 281), as follows: “A State has especially wide discretion in prescribing practice relating to its police power.”
The difference between laws and facts applicable to Mapp and Winkle; the lack of unanimity apparent in the decision of Mapp, plus that decision’s absence of conclusions which apply to the Michigan proviso, and our unanimous decisions in Gonzales and Winkle to the effect that our proviso did not violate the United States Constitution, causes the writer to recommend that this Court by proper order reaffirm its previous decision reported in 358 Mich 551, People v. Winkle.
Accordingly, the,order of this Court entered April 26, 1961, dismissing petitioner’s writs of habeas corpus and ancillary certiorari stands affirmed.
O’Hara, J., concurred with Kelly, J.“A ‘Milwaukee’ 1 h.p. drill, 50 feet .of extension cord, 6 feet of chain, 8 assorted carbide tipped drills from 3/4 to 3/8, 2 pry bars, 3 large serew-drivers, 10-ineh wire cutters, 7 assorted chisels, 7 drift pins, 2 punches, 1 center punch, 1 pair visé grip pliers, 2 Chayes Porcel point grinders, 3 lock picks and assorted skeleton keys, one 8-pound sledge hammer, two 2-cell flashlights, 2 gas masks, 1 pair leather boots, 1 pair canvas top shoes, 1 pair coveralls, nitroglycerine, nitroglycerine jelly, detonator caps, flashlight battery.”
The official reporta, pages 24, 44 and 46, reeognize the opinions in the Ker Case are divisive. Lawyer’s Edition entitles this portion . as a “separate opinion.” See 10 L ed 2d 739.
MICHIGAN —1919
Kentucky —1920
Florida —1922
Mississippi —1922
Oregon . —1922
Tennessee —1922
Washington. —1922
West-Virginia —:1922
- indiana • ~1923
Oklahoma —1923
Wisconsin —1923
Illinois —1924
Missouri —1924
-Montana —1924
Wyoming —1924
Idaho —1927
Texas —1927
, South Dakota —1930
See 358 Mich 551, and recitation of undisputed facts, supra.