Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP

15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 In the 2 United States Court of Appeals 3 for the Second Circuit 4 ________ 5 6 August Term, 2015 7 8 No. 15-3105-cv 9 10 ANDREW CARLIN, individually and on behalf of a class, 11 12 Plaintiff-Appellant, 13 14 v. 15 16 DAVIDSON FINK LLP, 17 18 Defendant-Appellee. 19 ________ 20 21 Argued: April 5, 2016 22 Decided: March 29, 2017 23 ________ 24 Before: POOLER, PARKER, and LIVINGSTON, Circuit Judges. 25 ________ 26 27 This appeal considers whether a letter to a consumer debtor 28 providing a “Total Amount Due” and stating that the amount may 29 include estimated fees, costs, additional payments, or escrow 30 disbursements that are not yet due is sufficient to state the “amount 31 of the debt” as required by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. 15 32 U.S.C. § 1692g. We hold that, in the circumstances here, it is not. As 33 a threshold matter, we also clarify that mortgage foreclosure 34 complaints are not “initial communications” within the meaning of 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Because Carlin has stated 2 facts that, if true, give rise to liability under the Fair Debt Collection 3 Practices Act, we vacate the judgment of the district court and 4 remand for further proceedings. 5 ________ 6 DANIEL A. EDELMAN (Tiffany N. Hardy, on the 7 brief), Edelman, Combs, Latturner & Goodwin, 8 LLC, Chicago, IL, for Plaintiff-Appellant. 9 ANDREW M. BURNS, Davidson Fink LLP, 10 Rochester, NY, Matthew J. Bizzaro, L’Abbate, 11 Balkan, Colavita & Contini, LLP, Garden City, 12 NY, on the brief, for Defendant-Appellee. 13 ________ 14 BARRINGTON D. PARKER, Circuit Judge 15 ________ 16 Plaintiff-Appellant Andrew Carlin, individually and on behalf 17 of others similarly situated, alleges that Defendant-Appellee 18 Davidson Fink LLP violated the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 19 15 U.S.C. § 1692 et seq. (the “FDCPA”), when it failed to provide the 20 “amount of the debt” within five days after an initial communication 21 with a consumer in connection with the collection of a debt, as 22 required by § 1692g. The complaint alleges that Davidson Fink 23 made three attempts to collect on a debt and that each time, it failed 24 to provide adequate notice to Carlin of the amount of the debt. 25 Carlin urges us to hold that Davidson Fink’s first 26 communication, a mortgage foreclosure complaint (the “Foreclosure 27 Complaint”), was an initial communication with a consumer in 28 connection with the collection of a debt, and that Davidson Fink was 2 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 therefore required to provide the “amount of the debt” within five 2 days of filing the Foreclosure Complaint. But we decline to so hold 3 because the plain language of the statute excludes from § 1692g 4 pleadings in a civil action. Instead, we conclude that Davidson 5 Fink’s follow-up letter, an unambiguous attempt to collect on a debt, 6 triggered the disclosure requirements of § 1692g, and that Carlin has 7 adequately alleged that this second communication by Davidson 8 Fink did not satisfy those requirements. We therefore vacate the 9 order and judgment of the district court and remand for further 10 proceedings consistent with this opinion. 11 BACKGROUND 12 Because this appeal comes before us on a motion to dismiss, 13 we accept as true all plausible allegations in the complaint. 14 Davidson Fink is a law firm whose practice areas include debt 15 collection and foreclosure. Davidson Fink provides a “wide-range of 16 debt collection services,” and offers “immediate and inexpensive 17 options to recover unpaid funds with a comprehensive collection 18 process.” App. at 3. As part of its practice, Davidson Fink regularly 19 collects consumer debts, including residential mortgage debts. 20 There is no dispute that Davidson Fink is a debt collector within the 21 meaning of the FDCPA. 22 On June 24, 2013, Davidson Fink filed the Foreclosure 23 Complaint against Carlin, seeking to collect on a 2005 mortgage 24 allegedly defaulted on by Carlin. The summons indicated that “[t]he 25 relief sought in the within action is a final judgment directing the 26 sale of the premises described above to satisfy the debt secured by 27 the Mortgage described above.” App. at 12. The Foreclosure 28 Complaint stated that “this action may be deemed to be an attempt 29 to collect a debt.” App. at 17. The Foreclosure Complaint also 30 included a paragraph requesting: 3 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 That if the proceeds of said sale of the 2 mortgage premises aforesaid be insufficient 3 to pay the amount found due to the plaintiff 4 with interest and costs, the officer making the 5 sale be required to specify the amount of 6 such deficiency in his report of sale so that 7 plaintiff may thereafter be able to make 8 application to this Court, pursuant to Section 9 1371 of the Real Property Actions and 10 Proceedings Law, for a judgment against the 11 defendant(s) referred to in paragraph 12 FOURTH of this Complaint for any 13 deficiency which may remain after applying 14 all of such moneys so applicable thereto, 15 except that this shall not apply to any 16 defendant who has been discharged in 17 bankruptcy from the subject debt[.] 18 App. at 18. Section 1371 of the New York Real Property Actions and 19 Proceedings Law provides that “[s]imultaneously with the making 20 of a motion for an order confirming the sale, . . . the party to whom 21 such residue shall be owing may make a motion in the action for 22 leave to enter a deficiency judgment . . . .” N.Y. REAL PROP. ACTS. 23 LAW § 1371(2) (2016). 24 Davidson Fink attached to the Foreclosure Complaint a 25 “Notice Required by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act,” which 26 stated that “the amount of the debt is stated in the complaint hereto 27 attached,” and also that “the debt . . . will be assumed to be valid . . . 28 unless the debtor, within thirty (30) days after receipt of this notice, 29 disputes the validity of the debt.” App. at 21. Contrary to the 30 assurance made in the attached notice, the Foreclosure Complaint 31 did not state the amount of the debt. 4 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 Apparently prompted by the Foreclosure Complaint’s 2 warnings, Carlin sent Davidson Fink a letter on July 12, 2013 (the 3 “July Letter”), disputing the validity of the debt and requesting a 4 verification of the dollar amount of the purported debt. Davidson 5 Fink obliged, and on August 9, 2013, sent a letter (the “August 6 Letter”) to Carlin containing, among other things, a Payoff 7 Statement. The Payoff Statement was dated July 31, 2013, and 8 indicated that it was valid through August 14, 2013. The Payoff 9 Statement included a “Total Amount Due” of $205,261.79. Below the 10 amount due, however, the statement added, in small print: 11 To provide you with the convenience of an 12 extended “Statement Void After” date, the 13 Total Amount Due may include estimated 14 fees, costs, additional payments and/or 15 escrow disbursements that will become due 16 prior to the “Statement Void After” date, but 17 which are not yet due as of the date this 18 Payoff Statement is issued. You will receive 19 a refund if you pay the Total Amount Due 20 and those anticipated fees, expenses, or 21 payments have not been incurred. 22 App. at 55. The Payoff Statement did not indicate what those 23 estimated fees, costs, or additional payments were or how they were 24 calculated. 25 Carlin brought this action alleging that Davidson Fink 26 violated the FDCPA, which provides: 27 Within five days after the initial 28 communication with a consumer in 29 connection with the collection of any debt, a 30 debt collector shall, unless the following 31 information is contained in the initial 32 communication or the consumer has paid the 5 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 debt, send the consumer a written notice 2 containing— 3 (1) the amount of the debt . . . . 4 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(a). Carlin alleges that the filing of the Foreclosure 5 Complaint was an “initial communication . . . in connection with the 6 collection of any debt,” and because Davidson Fink failed to specify 7 the amount of the debt within five days of filing the complaint, it is 8 liable for damages under the FDCPA. See id. § 1692k. Alternatively, 9 Carlin alleges that Davidson Fink was required to respond with the 10 amount of the debt within five days of receiving the July Letter. 11 Finally, Carlin alleges that if neither the Foreclosure Complaint nor 12 the July Letter was an initial communication, then the August Letter 13 was an initial communication made in connection with the collection 14 of a debt and the Payoff Statement did not satisfy § 1692g(a) because 15 the amount due included unaccrued and unspecified fees and costs. 16 Davidson Fink moved to dismiss for failure to state a claim. In 17 September 2014, the district court (Seybert, J.) denied the motion, 18 saying that Carlin had plausibly alleged that Davidson Fink was 19 acting as a debt collector, that it engaged in an initial communication 20 with Carlin, and that it failed to comply with § 1692g(a). Davidson 21 Fink moved for reconsideration, and in September 2015, the district 22 court granted the motion and dismissed the complaint, holding that 23 because the Foreclosure Complaint was not an effort to collect on a 24 debt within the meaning of § 1692g(a), the complaint failed to 25 plausibly state a claim. Carlin appeals. 26 DISCUSSION 27 We review a district court’s grant of a defendant’s motion to 28 dismiss de novo. Hart v. FCI Lender Servs., Inc., 797 F.3d 219, 223 (2d 29 Cir. 2015). To survive a motion to dismiss, “a complaint must 30 contain sufficient factual matter, accepted as true, to ‘state a claim to 31 relief that is plausible on its face.’” Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662, 678 6 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 (2009) (quoting Bell Atl. Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544, 570 (2007)). 2 We must “accept as true all of the allegations contained in a 3 complaint,” though “[t]hreadbare recitals of the elements of a cause 4 of action, supported by mere conclusory statements, do not suffice.” 5 Id. Though we are confined “to the allegations contained within the 6 four corners of [the] complaint,” Pani v. Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield, 7 152 F.3d 67, 71 (2d Cir. 1998), we may also consider any “documents 8 attached to the complaint as an exhibit or incorporated in it by 9 reference,” Chambers v. Time Warner, Inc., 282 F.3d 147, 153 (2d Cir. 10 2002) (quoting Brass v. Am. Film Techs., Inc., 987 F.2d 142, 150 (2d Cir. 11 1993)). 12 In assessing Carlin’s claim, § 1692g(a) calls upon us to make 13 three determinations: (1) whether any of the communications 14 between the parties were “initial communications” within the 15 meaning of § 1692g, (2) whether any of the communications between 16 the parties were “in connection with the collection of any debt,” and 17 (3) whether Davidson Fink provided the amount of the debt within 18 five days of such a communication. We agree with Davidson Fink 19 that neither the Foreclosure Complaint nor the July Letter are initial 20 communications giving rise to the requirements of § 1692g(a). We 21 hold, however, that the August Letter was an initial communication 22 in connection with the collection of a debt, and that the Payoff 23 Statement attached to the August Letter did not adequately state the 24 amount of the debt. 25 A. Initial Communication 26 The FDCPA does not offer a definition of “initial 27 communication.” In Goldman v. Cohen, we held that a “debt 28 collector’s initiation of a lawsuit in state court seeking recovery of 29 unpaid consumer debts is an ‘initial communication’ within the 30 meaning of the FDCPA.” 445 F.3d 152, 155 (2d Cir. 2006). After 31 Goldman, however, Congress amended the FDCPA in 2006 to clarify 32 that “[a] communication in the form of a formal pleading in a civil 7 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 action shall not be treated as an initial communication for purposes 2 of subsection (a) of this section.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(d) (added by the 3 Financial Services Regulatory Relief Act of 2006, Pub. L. No. 109-351, 4 § 802(a), 120 Stat. 1966, 2006–07 (2006)). We have recognized that 5 this amendment supersedes our determination in Goldman. See Ellis 6 v. Solomon & Solomon, P.C., 591 F.3d 130, 136 (2d Cir. 2010). 7 Despite the plain language of the statute, Carlin insists that the 8 Foreclosure Complaint is an initial communication. Carlin argues 9 that our holding in Hart, 797 F.3d at 224, makes clear that a § 1692g 10 notice is an initial communication. Here, Davidson Fink attached 11 such a notice to the Foreclosure Complaint, although it was not 12 required to do so, and Carlin argues that because the notice was not 13 part of the “formal pleading,” it does not fall within the exception 14 for formal civil pleadings provided in the statute. 15 Carlin’s argument finds no refuge in the text of the statute. 16 Section 1692g(d) states that a “communication in the form of a 17 formal pleading in a civil action” is not an initial communication. 18 We have recognized that “courts should avoid statutory 19 interpretations that render provisions superfluous.” State St. Bank & 20 Tr. Co. v. Salovaara, 326 F.3d 130, 139 (2d Cir. 2003). Were we to 21 adopt Carlin’s reading that the exclusion applies only to the formal 22 documents that make up a standard pleading, we would be ignoring 23 the plain language instructing that all communications in the form of 24 a civil pleading are excluded from the definition of initial 25 communication. Congress could have drawn the exclusion more 26 narrowly, but it did not. Instead, it adopted a broad exclusion that, 27 on its face, applies to any communication forming any part of a 28 pleading. Such an exclusion naturally extends to exhibits attached to 29 a complaint, and accordingly includes the § 1692g notice attached to 30 the Foreclosure Complaint. Thus, we hold that even documents that 8 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 are superfluously attached to a formal pleading are not initial 2 communications within the meaning of the FDCPA.1 3 Carlin protests that the § 1692g notice is misleading because it 4 erroneously instructed him that he had 30 days to dispute the debt, 5 which, according to the position now taken by Davidson Fink, was 6 false. But Carlin has not alleged in his complaint that the notice was 7 misleading, only that it failed to state the amount of the debt. 8 Should Carlin wish to amend his complaint to state such a claim, 9 that issue must be decided by the district court in the first instance, 10 and we express no view on the merits of such a claim. 11 Carlin next alleges that the July Letter, sent from him to 12 Davidson Fink in response to the Foreclosure Complaint, is an initial 13 communication. Numerous district courts have rejected the notion 14 that a communication initiated by a debtor to a debt collector may 15 qualify as an initial communication. See, e.g., Derisme v. Hunt Leibert 16 Jacobson P.C., 880 F. Supp. 2d 339, 367–68 (D. Conn. 2012); Lane v. 17 Fein, Such & Crane, LLP, 767 F. Supp. 2d 382, 387 (E.D.N.Y. 2011); 18 Gorham-Dimaggio v. Countrywide Home Loans, Inc., No. 1:05-cv-0583, 19 2005 WL 2098068, at *2 (N.D.N.Y. Aug. 30, 2005). Like those courts, 20 we conclude that, read in the context of the entire statute, initial 21 communications do not include communications initiated by the 22 debtor. 23 “When construing a statute, we begin with its language and 24 proceed under the assumption that the statutory language, unless 25 otherwise defined, carries its plain meaning . . . .” Chen v. Major 26 League Baseball Props., Inc., 798 F.3d 72, 76 (2d Cir. 2015). The statute 27 specifies that the communication must be “with” a consumer. We 1 Because we conclude that the erroneously attached notice was not an initial communication, we need not confront the parties’ extensive arguments regarding whether the initiation of a foreclosure action is done “in connection with the collection of any debt.” Nor do we need to consider the district court’s interpretation of the Eleventh Circuit’s ruling in Reese v. Ellis, Painter, Ratterree & Adams, LLP, 678 F.3d 1211 (11th Cir. 2012), as that case offers little guidance on the issues we confront here. 9 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 cannot discern from this alone whether the statute should be read to 2 exclude communications initiated by the consumer. Where statutory 3 language is ambiguous, we may consider legislative history, but in 4 doing so, we must “construct an interpretation that comports with 5 [the statute’s] primary purpose and does not lead to anomalous or 6 unreasonable results.” Puello v. Bureau of Citizenship & Immigration 7 Servs., 511 F.3d 324, 327 (2d Cir. 2007) (alteration in original) (internal 8 quotation marks omitted) (quoting Connecticut ex rel. Blumenthal v. 9 United States Dep’t of the Interior, 228 F.3d 82, 89 (2d Cir. 2000)); see 10 also Romea v. Heiberger & Assocs., 163 F.3d 111, 118 (2d Cir. 1998) 11 (noting that the court should avoid interpreting the FDCPA to 12 “contravene[] the purpose of the statute”). 13 The FDCPA states that its purpose is to “eliminate abusive 14 debt collection practices by debt collectors.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692(e) 15 (emphasis added). We have similarly recognized that the “FDCPA 16 was passed to protect consumers from deceptive or harassing 17 actions taken by debt collectors.” Kropelnicki v. Siegel, 290 F.3d 118, 127 18 (2d Cir. 2002) (emphasis added). And the legislative history makes 19 clear that the debt collector’s obligation to provide the amount of the 20 debt arises only “[a]fter initially contacting a consumer.” S. Rep. No. 21 95-382, at 4 (1977), reprinted in 1977 U.S.C.C.A.N. 1695, 1699. The 22 legislative history and stated purpose of the statute thus indicate that 23 the statute’s primary purpose, particularly where § 1692g is 24 implicated, is to regulate communications from the debt collector to 25 the debtor. Thus, imposing liability under § 1692g when a debtor 26 initiates the communication would run counter to the statute’s 27 primary purpose and would impose liability in circumstances not 28 contemplated by either the statute or the legislature. Accordingly, 29 the July Letter is not an initial communication under the FDCPA. 30 We have little difficulty concluding, however, that the August 31 Letter was an initial communication. Davidson Fink argues that the 32 protections of the FDCPA are not implicated where the debtor is 33 protected by the procedures of the court system. Davidson Fink’s 10 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 argument fails because the August Letter was not sent in the context 2 of a litigation, nor was it even sent to Carlin’s attorney. The cases 3 cited by Davidson Fink are inapposite—those cases, which concern 4 only misrepresentations under § 1692e, all involve representations 5 made to an attorney representing the debtor, usually in the context 6 of a formal proceeding. See, e.g., Gabriele v. Am. Home Mortg. 7 Servicing, Inc., 503 F. App’x 89, 92 (2d Cir. 2012) (alleged 8 misstatements made in state foreclosure action); Simmons v. Roundup 9 Funding, LLC, 622 F.3d 93, 95 (2d Cir. 2010) (alleged misstatements 10 made in bankruptcy filing); Kropelnicki, 290 F.3d at 123 (alleged 11 misstatement made over the phone to attorney during settlement 12 discussions). Here, by contrast, the August Letter was not sent in 13 connection with the foreclosure proceeding, and in fact makes no 14 mention of the proceeding. Furthermore, the letter was not sent to 15 Carlin’s attorney, who had already appeared on behalf of Carlin in 16 the foreclosure proceeding, but to Carlin himself. Davidson Fink is 17 thus incorrect that Carlin was amply protected by the procedures of 18 the court system. 19 Nor can we say that the August Letter was merely a response 20 to an unsolicited request for information. The August Letter was 21 sent in response to the July Letter, which was only sent in the first 22 place because Carlin was under the mistaken impression that he was 23 required to dispute the debt within thirty days. In light of such 24 circumstances, there is little dispute that the August Letter was an 25 initial communication within the meaning of the FDCPA. 26 B. In Connection With the Collection of Any Debt 27 Having determined that only the August Letter is an initial 28 communication, we must assess whether the letter was sent “in 29 connection with the collection of any debt.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(a). In 30 addressing this question at the motion to dismiss stage, our role is to 31 determine merely whether, when viewed objectively, the plaintiff 32 “has plausibly alleged that a consumer receiving the communication 11 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 could reasonably interpret it as being sent ‘in connection with the 2 collection of [a] debt,’ rather than inquiring into the sender’s 3 subjective purpose.” Hart, 797 F.3d at 225 (alteration in original). In 4 Hart, we determined that the letter in question was unambiguously 5 sent in connection with the collection of a debt because: (1) the letter 6 directed the recipient to mail payments to a specified address, (2) the 7 letter referred to the FDCPA by name, (3) the letter informed the 8 recipient that he had to dispute the debt’s validity within thirty days, 9 and (4) most importantly, the letter “emphatically announce[d] itself 10 as an attempt at debt collection: ‘THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO 11 COLLECT UPON A DEBT, AND ANY INFORMATION OBTAINED 12 WILL BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE.’” Id. at 226. We had “no 13 difficulty in concluding” that the communication in question was an 14 attempt to collect on a debt within the meaning of the FDCPA. Id. 15 Here, too, the August Letter is unambiguous. The Payoff 16 Statement provides addresses to which Carlin was instructed to mail 17 or wire his payments, the cover letter mentions the FDCPA by name, 18 and, most notably, the letter states: “ PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT 19 DAVIDSON FINK LLP IS A LAW FIRM ACTING AS A DEBT 20 COLLECTOR. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT A DEBT. 21 ANY INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM YOU WILL BE USED 22 FOR THAT PURPOSE.” App. at 54. These factors, dispositive in 23 Hart, are similarly instructive here and demonstrate that Carlin has 24 adequately pleaded that the August Letter was sent in connection 25 with the collection of a debt. 26 C. Amount of the Debt 27 The remaining inquiry is whether Davidson Fink adequately 28 stated the amount of the debt in the August Letter, as required by 29 § 1692g. We conclude that it did not. 30 The Payoff Statement included a “Total Amount Due,” but 31 that amount may have included unspecified “fees, costs, additional 32 payments, and/or escrow disbursements” that were not yet due at 12 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 the time the statement was issued. The Payoff Statement indicated 2 that any such fees would accrue by August 14, 2013 (the date on 3 which the Payoff Statement became void), and that if payment of the 4 “Total Amount Due” was made prior to August 14, Carlin would 5 receive a refund in the amount of the unaccrued fees. 6 When determining whether a debt collector has violated 7 § 1692g’s notice requirements, we consider how the “least 8 sophisticated consumer” would interpret the notice. See Russell v. 9 Equifax A.R.S., 74 F.3d 30, 34 (2d Cir. 1996) (citing Clomon v. Jackson, 10 988 F.2d 1314, 1318 (2d Cir. 1993)). We ask whether “the notice fails 11 to convey the required information ‘clearly and effectively and 12 thereby makes the least sophisticated consumer uncertain’ as to the 13 meaning of the message.” DeSantis v. Computer Credit, Inc., 269 F.3d 14 159, 161 (2d Cir. 2001) (quoting Savino v. Computer Credit, Inc., 164 15 F.3d 81, 85 (2d Cir. 1998)). Thus, even if a debt collector accurately 16 conveys the required information, a consumer may state a claim if 17 she successfully alleges that the least sophisticated consumer would 18 inaccurately interpret the message. 19 It is unclear whether Davidson Fink’s notice accurately 20 conveys the required information. The FDCPA defines “debt” as 21 “any obligation or alleged obligation of a consumer to pay money 22 arising out of a transaction . . . , whether or not such obligation has 23 been reduced to judgment.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5). The Seventh 24 Circuit has expressed doubt that “debt” includes unaccrued court 25 costs or attorney fees. See Veach v. Sheeks, 316 F.3d 690, 693 (7th Cir. 26 2003). But the Payoff Statement does not specify what the 27 “estimated fees, costs, [and] additional payments” are, and thus we 28 cannot say whether those amounts are properly part of the amount 29 of the debt.2 If Davidson Fink improperly included fees and costs 2 The only additional fee beyond principal and interest referenced in the underlying note is a 2% “Late Charge for Overdue Payments.” [JA155] The Payoff Statement does not indicate whether the late charge is part of the “fees, costs, [and] additional payments” included in the Total Amount Due. 13 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 that it was not entitled to under the note (absent a judgment), the 2 Payoff Statement would plainly be insufficient under § 1692g. 3 The least sophisticated consumer standard we use to interpret 4 the legal effect of FDCPA notices supports this conclusion. Absent 5 fuller disclosure, an unsophisticated consumer may not understand 6 how these fees are calculated, whether they may be disputed, or 7 what provision of the note gives rise to them. Because the statement 8 gives no indication as to what the unaccrued fees are or how they 9 are calculated, she cannot deduce that information from the 10 statement. 11 We do not hold that a debt collector may never satisfy its 12 obligations under § 1692g by providing a payoff statement that 13 provides an amount due, including expected fees and costs. But a 14 statement is incomplete where, as here, it omits information 15 allowing the least sophisticated consumer to determine the 16 minimum amount she owes at the time of the notice, what she will 17 need to pay to resolve the debt at any given moment in the future, 18 and an explanation of any fees and interest that will cause the 19 balance to increase. 20 We are not ignorant of the safe-harbor statement we 21 formulated in Avila v. Riexinger & Assocs., LLC, 817 F.3d 72 (2d Cir. 22 2016). There, we held: 23 [A] debt collector will not be subject to 24 liability under Section 1692e for failing to 25 disclose that the consumer’s balance may 26 increase due to interest and fees if the 27 collection notice either accurately informs the 28 consumer that the amount of the debt stated 29 in the letter will increase over time, or clearly 30 states that the holder of the debt will accept 31 payment of the amount set forth in full 14 15-3105-cv Carlin v. Davidson Fink LLP 1 satisfaction of the debt if payment is made by 2 a specified date. 3 817 F.3d at 77. However, the Payoff Statement only expresses that 4 the Total Amount Due may include estimated fees and costs. There is 5 no clarity as to whether new fees and costs are accruing or as to the 6 basis for those fees and costs.3 7 Notices such as the Payoff Statement here may very well be 8 commonplace in the debt collection industry. But the FDCPA does 9 not insulate a debt collector from liability merely because others in 10 the industry engage in the same practice. It is no great chore for 11 Davidson Fink and other debt collectors to revise their standard 12 payoff statements to clarify the actual amount due, the basis of the 13 fees, or simply some information that would allow the least 14 sophisticated consumer to deduce the amount she actually owes. 15 CONCLUSION 16 Because Carlin has adequately alleged that the August Letter 17 is an initial communication sent by a debt collector in connection 18 with the collection of a debt and that it does not clearly state the 19 amount of the debt, we vacate the order and judgment of the district 20 court and remand for proceedings consistent with this opinion. 3 As we explained in Avila, though not required by the text of the statute, a notice would also satisfy § 1692g if it used language such as : “As of today, [date], you owe $___. This amount consists of a principal of $___, accrued interest of $___, and fees of $___. This balance will continue to accrue interest after [date] at a rate of $___per [date/week/month/year].” 817 F.3d at 77 n. 2 (citing Jones v. Midland Funding, LLC., 755 F.Supp.2d 393, 397 n. 7). 15