People v. Flint

Filed 4/30/18
CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION

IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

FIRST APPELLATE DISTRICT

DIVISION FOUR

THE PEOPLE,
Plaintiff and Respondent, A144631

v. (Mendocino County
SCOTT D. FLINT, Super. Ct. No. CR9613174)
Defendant and Appellant.

Scott D. Flint was committed to the custody of the California Department of State
Hospitals (DSH) for an indeterminate term, after a jury found he was a sexually violent
predator (SVP) under the Sexually Violent Predators Act (Welf. & Inst. Code, 1 § 6600 et
seq.) (SVPA or the Act). Flint appeals, contending: (1) he was deprived of his right to
equal protection when he was compelled to testify in the People’s case-in-chief, because a
person found not guilty of crimes by reason of insanity (NGI) may not be compelled to
testify at hearings to extend his or her commitment; (2) the trial court prejudicially erred
by allowing the People’s expert witness to testify about case-specific facts based on
inadmissible hearsay prohibited by People v. Sanchez (2016) 63 Cal.4th 665 (Sanchez);
and (3) the cumulative error violated his due process rights and deprived him of a fair
trial, requiring reversal. Although we reject Flint’s second and third arguments for
reversal, we shall remand the matter to the trial court to afford the People the opportunity
to justify the differential treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s as to whether they may be called
as witnesses for the People in their respective commitment hearings.

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Statutory references are to the Welfare and Institutions Code unless otherwise
specified.

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 I. BACKGROUND
In 1992, Flint was sentenced to eight years in prison after pleading guilty to three
counts of violating Penal Code section 288, subdivision (a), by committing lewd and
lascivious acts on children under the age of 14 in 1987 and 1988. Flint was paroled in
1996, but pleaded guilty in 1997 to another count of violating section 288, subdivision (a),
by committing lewd and lascivious acts on a child under the age of 14. He was sentenced
to prison. 2
Flint was scheduled to be released from custody in August 2011. In July of that
year, the Mendocino County District Attorney filed a petition to involuntarily commit him
as an SVP. A supporting declaration averred that DSH 3 had concluded Flint was an SVP
based upon the evaluations of two mental health professionals who determined Flint had a
diagnosed mental disorder that predisposed him to commit sexual acts creating a danger to
the health and safety of others. Before the trial on the petition, Flint moved in limine to
prohibit the prosecution from calling him as a witness, arguing that it was an equal
protection violation to compel an SVP to testify because the prosecution could not call as
a witness an NGI or a juvenile in commitment extension hearings. The trial court, relying
on then current authority, 4 denied the motion.
A jury trial followed, and the People called Flint as a witness in their case in chief.
The People also called as witnesses three victims of Flint’s past offenses and, as an expert
witness, DSH psychologist and SVP evaluator, G. Preston Sims. Flint in turn called as

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While in prison, Flint pled guilty to committing an unrelated offense and his
sentence was extended.
3
DSH previously was known as the State Department of Mental Health. (State
Dept. of State Hospitals v. Superior Court (Novoa) (2015) 61 Cal.4th 339, 345, fn. 4.) To
avoid confusion, we refer to the entity throughout as DSH.
4
The trial court’s ruling predated this division’s decision in People v. Curlee
(2015) 237 Cal.App.4th 709 (Curlee), discussed below.

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witnesses a behavior specialist at the state hospital where he was confined, two expert
psychologists who had evaluated him, and a friend who had offered him a job and housing
on his release. At the conclusion of the trial, the jury found Flint qualified as an SVP. On
February 19, 2015, the court ordered Flint committed for an indefinite term to DSH for
appropriate treatment and confinement in a state hospital. This timely appeal followed.
II. DISCUSSION
In his original opening appellate brief, Flint contends the trial court violated his
equal protection rights by compelling him to testify as a witness in the People’s case-in-
chief during his commitment trial. After our Supreme Court issued its decision in
Sanchez, supra, Flint requested and secured leave to file a supplemental opening brief
asserting that reversal is required because the trial court allowed the People’s expert,
Sims, to provide testimony that included a large amount of case-specific hearsay. In his
supplemental opening brief, Flint also included a cumulative error argument. The People
subsequently filed a supplemental respondent’s brief and Flint filed a supplemental reply.
We address Flint’s arguments in turn below.
A. Compelled Testimony
1. The SVPA
To frame Flint’s equal protection argument, we provide a brief overview of the
SVPA. The act “provides for indefinite involuntary civil commitment of certain offenders
who are found to be SVP’s following the completion of their prison terms. [Citation.]”
(People v. Field (2016) 1 Cal.App.5th 174, 181 (Field).) “ ‘ “Sexually violent predator”
means a person who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense against one or more
victims and who has a diagnosed mental disorder that makes the person a danger to the
health and safety of others in that it is likely that he or she will engage in sexually violent
criminal behavior.’ [¶] To establish that a person is an SVP, the prosecution is required to
prove the following: (1) the offender has been convicted of a qualifying sexually violent
offense against at least two victims; (2) the offender has a diagnosed mental disorder;

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(3) the disorder makes it likely the offender would engage in sexually violent conduct if
released; and (4) this sexually violent conduct will be predatory in nature. [Citation.] The
prosecutor must establish these elements beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury verdict
must be unanimous. [Citation.]” (Ibid.) 5
2. Analysis
Flint makes the following equal protection argument: SVP’s are similarly situated
to NGI’s; because NGI’s cannot be required to testify at their commitment extension
hearings (Hudec v. Superior Court (2015) 60 Cal.4th 815, 826), it is a violation of equal
protection to require a committee to testify at an SVP commitment hearing; and if Flint
had not been compelled to testify, there is a reasonable probability he would have
achieved a more favorable result. The People argue in response that SVP’s and NGI’s are
not similarly situated under the equal protection clause for purposes of compelled
testimony, that there is an adequate basis for treating SVP’s and NGI’s differently in this
context in any event, and that any error was harmless.
We decided these issues in our prior opinion in Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th
709. Although the Attorney General now argues that decision was “incorrect and should
not be followed,” and Flint also takes minor issue with it, we decline both parties’
invitations to revisit it.
a. SVP’s and NGI’s Are Similarly Situated for Purposes of Compelled
Testimony
“ ‘The concept of equal protection recognizes that persons who are similarly
situated with respect to a law’s legitimate purposes must be treated equally. [Citation.]
Accordingly, “ ‘[t]he first prerequisite to a meritorious claim under the equal protection

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Although a proceeding under the SVPA is civil in nature, the common practice is
to characterize the parties to the action as “the prosecution” and “defense.” (Field, supra,
1 Cal.App.5th 174, 179, fn. 2.)

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clause is a showing that the state has adopted a classification that affects two or more
similarly situated groups in an unequal manner.’ ” [Citation.] “This initial inquiry is not
whether persons are similarly situated for all purposes, but ‘whether they are similarly
situated for purposes of the law challenged.’ ” [Citation.]’ [Citation, italics omitted.]”
(People v. Valencia (2017) 3 Cal.5th 347, 376.) The second step is determining whether
there is a sufficient justification for the unequal treatment. The level of justification
needed is based on the right implicated. When the disparity implicates a suspect class or a
fundamental right, strict scrutiny applies. (People v. Wilkinson (2004) 33 Cal.4th 821,
836.) When no suspect class or fundamental right is involved, the challenger must
demonstrate that the law is not rationally related to any legitimate government purpose.
(Ibid.) 6
“Under both the United States and California Constitutions, a person has the right
to refuse to answer potentially incriminating questions put to him or her in any
proceeding; in addition, the defendant in a criminal proceeding enjoys the right to refuse
to testify at all.” (People v. Dunley (2016) 247 Cal.App.4th 1438, 1446 (Dunley).)
Commitment proceedings involving NGI’s and SVP’s are civil in nature. (Ibid.) In
Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th 815, however, our Supreme Court concluded
that NGI’s could not be compelled to testify at commitment extension hearings because
Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7), affords them all “ ‘ “the rights guaranteed
under the federal and State Constitutions for criminal proceedings.” ’ ” (Id. at p. 826,
italics omitted.) In People v. McKee (2010) 47 Cal.4th 1172 (McKee I), our Supreme
Court concluded that SVP’s and NGI’s are similarly situated when analyzing the term of

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Although not relevant here, a level of intermediate scrutiny also “ ‘has been
applied to discriminatory classifications based on sex or illegitimacy. [Citations.]’
[Citations.]” (People v. Wilkinson, supra, 33 Cal.4th at pp. 836-837.)

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commitment and the burden of proof for release. (Id. at pp. 1183–1184, 1196, 1202,
1207.)
In Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th 709, this division squarely addressed the issue
that Flint raises here, namely, whether SVP’s and NGI’s are similarly situated when
analyzing the permissibility of compelled testimony at the commitment hearing. (Id. at
pp. 716, 720.) Relying on McKee I and its predecessor, In re Moye (1978) 22 Cal.3d 457,
Curlee answered the question in the affirmative, based on the following reasoning: “The
preconditions to commitment are similar: Both groups have committed a criminal act and
have been found to suffer from a mental condition that might present a danger to others.
[Citation.] At the end of the SVP’s prison term, and at the end of the term for which an
NGI could have been imprisoned, each is committed to the state hospital for treatment if,
at the end of that period, the district attorney proves in a jury trial beyond a reasonable
doubt that the person presents a danger to others as a result of a mental disease, defect, or
disorder. [Citations.] The purpose of the commitment is the same: To protect the public
from those who have committed criminal acts and have mental disorders and to provide
mental health treatment for the disorders. [Citations.]” (Curlee, at p. 720, italics added.)
Our colleagues in several other Courts of Appeal—including Divisions One, Two, and
Three of the Fourth Appellate District—have agreed with our reasoning and holding in
Curlee. (See People v. Alsafar (2017) 8 Cal.App.5th 880, 882–883, 886–887 [rejecting
the Attorney General’s argument that “the holding in Curlee ‘was incorrect and should not
be followed’ ”]; Field, supra, 1 Cal.App.5th at p. 194 [following Curlee on this issue];
Dunley, supra, 247 Cal.App.4th at p. 1443 [same]; People v. Landau (2016)
246 Cal.App.4th 850, 864 [same].)
The People argued in Curlee “that SVP’s [were] not similarly situated to NGI’s for
purposes of whether they may be called as witnesses for the prosecution because an SVP
is initially evaluated while in the custody of [CDCR] [citation], while the NGI has been
committed to [DSH] for treatment since having been found insane at the time of the

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offense [citation].” (Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th at p. 720.) As a result, the People
contended, they had more information about NGI’s and whether NGI’s needed further
treatment, obviating the need for NGI’s to testify at trial. (Ibid.) Curlee disputed this
assertion, pointing out that, after an SVP petition is filed, the person is evaluated by
mental health professionals, there is a probable cause hearing, and the person may be
committed to the state hospital for years pending trial, providing state hospital staff ample
time to evaluate the person’s treatment needs. 7 (Ibid.) Ultimately, this division agreed
with Curlee that NGI’s and SVP’s were similarly situated. (Id. at p. 721.) Observing that
the record there did not permit a determination of whether the People were “likely to have
more information on an NGI’s mental state than on that of an SVP,” Curlee concluded
that, in any event, the argument addressed the second prong of the equal protection
analysis—“whether the [People] [had] justified the disparate treatment of NGI’s and
SVP’s”—and not the first “similarly situated” prong. (Ibid.)
Focusing on the court’s preliminary observation about the state of the record in that
case, the People here claim Curlee was incorrectly decided and should not be followed,
and then attempt the same “similarly situated” argument that Curlee rejected. Curlee was
incorrectly decided, the People contend, because “the issue is legal not factual.” This
court need not consider, as a factual matter, the relative amounts of information available
under the two statutory schemes, the People argue; regardless, NGI’s and SVP’s cannot be
considered similarly situated because there are “schematic differences” between the
groups. In particular, one group (NGI’s) is “committed for treatment in the state
hospital,” the People point out, while the other (those alleged to be SVP’s) have “been
sentenced to serve a term in prison.” This necessarily “means the amount of treatment

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Here, for example, after the commitment petition was filed and a probable cause
hearing held, the trial court ordered Flint housed in a state hospital, where he remained for
more than three years, until his trial commenced.

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data and the [People’s] access to the data” also will differ, and that difference provides
“the explanation for the disparity” in treatment. It is “a legislative fact . . . . regardless of
any judicial facts.”
The People’s terminology here is perplexing, 8 and their reasoning is circular. We
are unpersuaded that Curlee erred in concluding that NGI’s and SVP’s are similarly
situated for purposes of determining whether they may be compelled to testify at their
commitment hearings. (Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th at p. 721.)
b. Strict Scrutiny Applies
The People contend that any disparate treatment here need only be justified under
the rational basis test. In McKee I, supra, our Supreme Court applied strict scrutiny to
review differences in definitional standards and burdens of proof among civil commitment
schemes. However, the People point out the court specifically rejected the notion that its
decision extended the strict scrutiny standard to “ ‘every detail of every civil commitment
program.’ ” (McKee I, supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 1210, fn. 13.) That exacting standard is not
properly applied in evaluating the justification for extending a testimonial privilege to
NGI’s but not SVP’s, the People submit, because the right not to be called as a witness for
the prosecution touches on “a single aspect of the trial process.” There is no constitutional
right not to testify in this context, the People note; the right is only afforded to NGI’s by
statute.

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The People’s contention that the distinction between NGI’s and SVP’s involves
an issue of “legislative fact” not susceptible to proof at an evidentiary hearing is not
persuasive. “Legislative facts” typically refer to “the legislative findings with regard to
the need for, or probable effect of,” a challenged statutory provision. (See, e.g., American
Academy of Pediatrics v. Lungren (1997) 16 Cal.4th 307, 348–349 & fn. 25 (plur. opn. of
George, C.J.).) Here, however, the Legislature made no findings as to why it conferred a
statutory right against self-incrimination on NGI’s but failed to extend such a right to
SVP’s. Even if it had, legislative findings could not by themselves justify differential
treatment, since “evidence introduced at trial may call into question legislative fact
finding.” (McKee I, supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 1207.)

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 The People raised the same arguments in Field, supra, 1 Cal.App.5th 174, which
addressed this precise issue, and we quote Field’s reasoning on this point here as we find
it to be persuasive: “The fact that the claimed right is found in a statute and not the
California or United States Constitution does not mandate that we apply a rational basis
review. [Citations.] And we are not persuaded by the People’s claim that ‘the right at
issue here touches on only a single procedural aspect of the trial process.’ (Italics in
original.) To the contrary, the ability to call an SVP in the prosecution’s case could be the
most important evidence it places before the jury. As our Supreme Court observed,
permitting the jury to observe the person sought to be committed and to hear him speak
and respond provided ‘the most reliable proof and probative indicator of the person’s
present mental condition.’ [Citation.] Further, ‘[b]y calling the person in its case-in-chief,
the state is essentially saying that his or her testimony is necessary for the state to prove its
case.’ [Citation.] Considering the potential impact of an SVP testifying at his or her
commitment hearing, it logically follows that an SVP’s testimony could have a direct
impact on the SVP’s liberty interest, namely the prosecution could use the testimony to
prove that he or she should remain committed. Against this backdrop, we determine that
strict scrutiny is the proper test to apply to the People’s justification of the disparate
treatment. [Citation.]” (Id. at p. 196.) We agree. (See also, Hubbart v. Superior Court
(1999) 19 Cal.4th 1138, 1153, fn. 20 [“this court has traditionally subjected involuntary
civil commitment statutes to the most rigorous form of constitutional review”]; Dunley,
supra, 247 Cal.App.4th at pp. 1443, 1450, 1453 [NGI’s, SVP’s, and those involuntarily
committed as a condition of parole under the Mentally Disordered Offenders Act are all
similarly situated with respect to the testimonial privilege, and the strict scrutiny test
applies in determining whether disparate treatment on this issue can be justified]; People
v. McKee (2012) 207 Cal.App.4th 1325, 1335 (McKee II) [“ ‘Strict scrutiny is the
appropriate standard against which to measure claims of disparate treatment in civil
commitment’ ”].)

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 c. A Remand Is Appropriate
“Under the strict scrutiny test, the state has the burden of establishing it has a
compelling interest that justifies the law and that the distinctions, or disparate treatment,
made by that law are necessary to further its purpose. [Citation.] Here, the People have
offered no justification under the strict scrutiny test to justify the disparate treatment.
Thus, following [citation], ‘[w]e emphasize that, like our high court in [McKee I, supra],
we do not conclude the People cannot meet their burden to show the testimony of an NGI
is less necessary than that of an SVP. We merely conclude that they have not yet done so.
In our view, the proper remedy is to remand the matter to the trial court to conduct an
evidentiary hearing to allow the People to make an appropriate showing.’ ” (Field, supra,
1 Cal.App.5th at p. 197; see McKee I, supra, 47 Cal.4th at pp. 1207–1209; Curlee, supra,
237 Cal.App.4th at p. 722.) 9
d. Any Error In Compelling Flint To Testify Was Prejudicial
The People contend that, even if Flint had a right not to testify, we should affirm
because there is no reasonable probability Flint would have achieved a more favorable
outcome had he not testified in the People’s case-in-chief and denial of the right,
therefore, was harmless. (People v. Watson (1956) 46 Cal.2d 818, 836 (Watson).) We
disagree. We conclude, as this division previously did in Curlee, that “ ‘[b]y calling
[Flint] in its case-in-chief, the state [was] essentially saying that his . . . testimony [was]
necessary for the state to prove its case. We have no doubt that a committee so compelled

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Flint asserted in his opening brief that no remand is necessary because the equal
protection issue was litigated and resolved against the People in the trial court. However,
because neither the parties nor the trial court had the benefit of our decision in Curlee, the
People did not present evidence to justify the disparate treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s, and
the trial court did not hold an evidentiary hearing to address that issue. Under those
circumstances, as Flint ultimately acknowledged in his reply brief, remand is appropriate.

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to testify is prejudiced under these circumstances. . . .’ [Citation.]” (Curlee, supra,
237 Cal.App.4th at p. 722; accord, People v. Landau, supra, 246 Cal.App.4th at p. 865.)
The People maintain that Curlee’s harmless error analysis was faulty because,
taken to its logical conclusion, it would require reversal any time a trial court erroneously
admits testimony by a prosecution witness. Curlee did not create such a rule, however;
nor do we. As support for its conclusion that any error necessarily was prejudicial, Curlee
focused on the identity of the person whose testimony was compelled. Quoting our
Supreme Court in Cramer v. Tyars (1979) 23 Cal.3d 131, 139, Curlee reasoned “ ‘that
permitting the jury to observe the person sought to be committed and to hear him speak
and respond provided “the most reliable proof and probative indicator of the person’s
present mental condition.” [Citation.]’ [Citation.]” (Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th at
p. 722.) We concur.
The People also fault Curlee contending that it effectively established a rule of per
se reversal where a prisoner is compelled to testify in this context, and that the error of
doing so is demonstrated here because Flint’s testimony at best was cumulative of other
evidence. Again, we must disagree. As noted previously, to commit Flint as an SVP, the
jury unanimously had to conclude, beyond a reasonable doubt, among other things, that
Flint (1) had a diagnosed mental disorder, (2) making it likely that, if released, he would
engage in sexually violent conduct (3) that was predatory. (Field, supra, 1 Cal.App.5th at
p. 182.) “ ‘Diagnosed mental disorder’ includes a congenital or acquired condition
affecting the emotional or volitional capacity that predisposes the person to the
commission of criminal sexual acts in a degree constituting the person a menace to the
health and safety of others.” (§ 6600, subd. (c).) “ ‘Predatory’ means an act is directed
toward a stranger, a person of casual acquaintance with whom no substantial relationship
exists, or an individual with whom a relationship has been established or promoted for the
primary purpose of victimization.” (§ 6600, subd. (e).)

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 Without deciding the standard governing reversal if an alleged SVP is improperly
compelled to testify in a commitment proceeding, 10 we agree with Flint that his testimony
here included responses that were prejudicial. As the People themselves acknowledge, in
his testimony, Flint “admitted the details of his criminal history and his past problems
controlling his attraction to young girls.” He admitted, for example, that: he rubbed his
penis against one 10-year old victim’s vagina and performed oral sex on her on multiple
occasions; he molested the same victim most of the time when he was alone with her; he
knew when he molested another victim that he would go back to prison if he did so, and
he did it anyway; he downplayed the severity of his conduct when interviewed by the
police; he omitted details of his abuse when questioned by a DSH psychologist prior to his
trial; and he declined to enroll in the formal sex offender treatment program at the state
hospital. The People specifically cited Flint’s testimony in their closing argument,
contending the jury could not trust him when he said he no longer had such urges because
he had “proven to be a liar,” and had downplayed his misconduct previously. If it was
error to compel Flint’s testimony, therefore, the error was prejudicial.
B. Sanchez
Flint contends the order committing him to DSH also should be reversed because
the evidence against him “consisted almost entirely of [an expert witness’s] case-specific
hearsay,” which did not otherwise fit a qualifying hearsay exception, and admission of the
evidence deprived him of a fair trial resulting in a miscarriage of justice. (Cal. Const., art.
VI, § 13.) 11 Although Flint’s attorney did not object to the hearsay, Flint contends the

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Both parties assume that the Watson standard would apply.
11
This argument raises a purely evidentiary issue since, as Flint acknowledges, the
Sixth Amendment right to confront witnesses does not apply in civil proceedings under
the SVPA. (People v. Otto (2001) 26 Cal.4th 200, 214.) While Flint asserts that the
admission of hearsay evidence also violated his due process rights, he does not support
that contention by any independent authority or analysis. (See Cal. Rules of Court,
rule 8.204(a)(1)(B) [each point must appear under a separate subheading and must be

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omission should be excused because any objection would have been futile. Alternatively,
Flint contends, his attorney’s failure to object to the hearsay constituted ineffective
assistance of counsel. The People disagree. They contend: Flint forfeited this argument
by failing to object; most of the facts conveyed through the expert’s challenged testimony
were proven by independent evidence; and any error was harmless in light of the
overwhelming evidence supporting the expert’s testimony.
1. Flint Did Not Forfeit His Hearsay Objections
Flint’s trial under the SVPA occurred a year before our Supreme Court issued
Sanchez, supra, 63 Cal.4th 665, “which significantly changed the rules governing
testimony by expert witnesses about the hearsay upon which they relied in forming their
opinions. Under the law prevailing at the time of [Flint’s] hearing, an expert was
permitted to testify relatively freely about the content of hearsay evidence relating to the
circumstances of the case at hand, if the evidence constituted a basis for his or her opinion.
[Citation.]” (People v. Jeffrey G. (2017) 13 Cal.App.5th 501, 506, fn. omitted (Jeffrey
G.).) The theory was that the expert’s testimony was not admitted for the truth, in such
circumstances, but, rather as evidence of the basis for the opinion. (Sanchez, supra, at
p. 679.) Under this paradigm, a court allowed such testimony, depending on the nature
and amount of the out-of-court statements involved, if it concluded a jury could properly
follow a limiting instruction, which directed them to consider the expert’s testimony only
as the basis for his or her opinion, and not for the truth. (Ibid.)
In Sanchez, however, the court concluded “this paradigm [was] no longer tenable
because an expert’s testimony regarding the basis for an opinion must be considered for its

supported by argument and citation of authority]; Collin v. CalPortland Co. (2014) 228
Cal.App.4th 582, 600 [a contention not presented under separate heading, with supporting
factual analysis, is forfeited].)

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truth by the jury.” (Sanchez, supra, 63 Cal.4th at p. 679.) “Once we recognize that the
jury must consider expert basis testimony for its truth in order to evaluate the expert’s
opinion,” the court continued, “hearsay and confrontation problems cannot be avoided by
giving a limiting instruction that such testimony should not be considered for its truth. If
an expert testifies to case-specific out-of-court statements to explain the bases for his
opinion, those statements are necessarily considered by the jury for their truth, thus
rendering them hearsay. Like any other hearsay evidence, it must be properly admitted
through an applicable hearsay exception. Alternatively, the evidence can be admitted
through an appropriate witness and the expert may assume its truth in a properly worded
hypothetical question in the traditional manner.” (Id. at p. 684.)
At Flint’s commitment trial, the People’s expert, Sims, gave testimony that
included details and circumstances of Flint’s offenses, and facts about Flint’s subsequent
treatment history, which Sims derived from his review of Flint’s legal and medical
records, his interviews with Flint, and his conversations with staff of the state hospital
where Flint was committed before the trial. We conclude Flint did not forfeit his legal
claim regarding the admissibility of this testimony by failing to object at the hearing. On
this point, we find persuasive the reasoning of Division One of this court, in Jeffrey G.,
supra, which we quote here at some length: “There is no dispute that Sanchez materially
changed the law governing expert testimony in effect at the time of the [commitment
trial]. The Sanchez court expressly disapproved six prior Supreme Court decisions,
noting, in particular, ‘We also disapprove People v. Gardeley [(1996)] 14 Cal.4th 605, to
the extent it suggested an expert may properly testify regarding case-specific out-of-court
statements without satisfying hearsay rules’ (Sanchez, supra, 63 Cal.4th at p. 686,
fn. 13.)” (Jeffrey G., 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 507 & fn. 4.)
“ ‘ “[R]eviewing courts have traditionally excused parties for failing to raise an
issue at trial where an objection would have been futile or wholly unsupported by
substantive law then in existence.” ’ [Citation.] In addition, parties are generally not

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required to anticipate rulings that significantly change the prevailing law. Our Supreme
Court has consistently entertained claims premised on Crawford v. Washington [(2004)]
541 U.S. 36, despite a defendant’s failure to object on that ground, if the hearing occurred
prior to Crawford’s issuance. As the court explained . . . [citation], ‘[b]ecause Crawford
“was a dramatic departure from prior confrontation clause case law,” a defendant’s failure
to raise a Crawford claim in a pre-Crawford trial “is excusable because defense counsel
could not reasonably have been expected to anticipate this change in the law.” ’
[Citations.] While Sanchez might not have been as dramatic a departure from prior law as
Crawford, it certainly worked a significant change.” (Jeffrey G., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at
pp. 507–508; see also People v. Kitchens (1956) 46 Cal.2d 260, 263 [“A contrary holding
would place an unreasonable burden on defendants to anticipate unforeseen changes in the
law and encourage fruitless objections in other situations where defendants might hope
that an established rule of evidence would be changed on appeal”].) 12
In arguing for forfeiture, as in Jeffrey G., the People contend that much of Sims’s
hearsay testimony was based on documentary evidence that otherwise would have been
admissible under statutory hearsay exceptions. To the extent the People are suggesting
Flint’s argument here is foreclosed because he did not provide them an opportunity to cure
the problem by objecting before the trial court, we conclude, as the court did in Jeffrey G.,
that they “fail[] to overcome the futility concern present here. Even if defense counsel had
interposed appropriate hearsay objections, the objections would undoubtedly have been
resisted by the prosecution and overruled by the court, which would have left [Sims’s]

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Although in People v. Perez (Apr. 12, 2018, E060438) __ Cal.App.5th __,
, the Fourth District held
that the appellant did forfeit an objection to an expert’s case-specific hearsay testimony by
failing to raise it in anticipation of Sanchez (id. at pp. 3, 59–60), we find the reasoning in
Jeffrey G. to be more persuasive. (See also, Conservatorship of K.W. (2017)
13 Cal.App.5th 1274, 1283 [any objection to an expert’s case-specific hearsay testimony
before Sanchez would have been futile].)

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testimony unchanged and lacking the foundation required by Sanchez. Only if the trial
court had refused to follow applicable precedent would the prosecution have been forced
to lay a Sanchez-appropriate foundation.” (Jeffrey G., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 508.)
The People also contend that trial counsel could have anticipated “that Sanchez
would one day issue and change the law,” if he paid more attention to our Supreme
Court’s docket and recent developments in the case law governing experts. (Jeffrey G.,
supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 508.) Again, we echo our colleagues in Division One and
“decline to require such prescience.” (Ibid.) 13
2. Analysis
In his opening brief, Flint presents a list of 13 instances in which, he asserts, Sims’s
testimony included case-specific hearsay statements prohibited under Sanchez. The
People counter that most of that testimony was not prohibited under Sanchez because
Sims was merely discussing case-specific facts the People independently proved through
the trial testimony of other witnesses—i.e., through testimony from the victims, Flint
himself, and Flint’s witness, psychologist Brian Abbott—and that the remaining portions
of Sims’s challenged testimony either were covered by a hearsay exception or were not
hearsay. In his reply brief, Flint asserts that, although an expert might properly refer to
the testimony of other witnesses confirming certain case-specific facts, Sanchez does not
allow an expert to freely repeat such facts. Additionally, while acknowledging that Sims
could testify about any out of court statements Flint made to him, under the hearsay
exception for party admissions (Evid. Code, § 1220), Flint contends the People could not
rely on his own trial testimony as providing independent evidentiary support for Sims’s
hearsay statements, because his testimony was improperly compelled. Flint also disputes

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Because we conclude Flint did not forfeit the Sanchez issue, we need not address
his claim of ineffective assistance of counsel resulting from the failure to object on
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the People’s argument that one of the listed instances of challenged testimony did not
qualify as hearsay.
a. Whether Sanchez Permits An Expert To Relate “Independently Proven”
Case-Specific Hearsay
We begin with Flint’s argument that Sims’s case-specific hearsay statements were
inadmissible under Sanchez even though other admissible evidence—i.e., other witness
testimony—independently confirmed those case-specific facts. Flint submits that Sanchez
includes “some ambiguity” on this point. For example, as he acknowledges, the Supreme
Court there remarked, “What an expert cannot do is relate as true case-specific facts
asserted in hearsay statements, unless they are independently proven by competent
evidence or are covered by a hearsay exception.” (Sanchez, supra, 63 Cal.4th at p. 686,
initial italics in original, subsequent italics added.) This suggests an expert might relate
case-specific factual assertions contained in out of court statements if the assertions are
“independently proven by competent evidence.” (Ibid.) Flint points out, however, that
the court then summarized its ruling as follows: “When any expert relates to the jury
case-specific out-of-court statements, and treats the content of those statements as true and
accurate to support the expert’s opinion, the statements are hearsay.” (Ibid.) As an
express articulation of a rule, Flint contends, the latter statement must be given priority.
But Flint contends that the two statements do not actually contradict each other. Rather,
read together, they signify that, an expert may “acknowledge” admissible evidence
proving facts that were the subject of case-specific hearsay, but may not repeat those facts
unless they are supplied to the expert in the form of a hypothetical question.
At least one recently-decided case, citing our decision in People v. Stamps (2016)
3 Cal.App.5th 988 (Stamps), appears to support Flint’s interpretation. (See People v.
Vega-Robles (2017) 9 Cal.App.5th 382, 413 [“testimony about case-specific facts of
which [the expert] does not have personal knowledge is inadmissible, even if specific facts
are independently proven by other evidence”]; Stamps, supra, 3 Cal.App.5th at p. 996 [“If

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it is a case-specific fact and the witness has no personal knowledge of it, if no hearsay
exception applies, and if the expert treats the fact as true, the expert simply may not testify
about it”].) Several published decisions can be read to suggest a contrary interpretation.
(See, e.g., Jeffrey G., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 506 [Sanchez bars experts from
testifying about case-specific hearsay evidence “unless there is direct evidence of the
matter discussed or the hearsay evidence has been admitted under an appropriate
exception”]; People v. Roa (2017) 11 Cal.App.5th 428, 450 [“The limitation on expert
testimony imposed by the Supreme Court in Sanchez applies to case-specific facts that are
not independently proven or covered by a hearsay exception”]; People v. Burroughs
(2016) 6 Cal.App.5th 378, 407 [“Under Sanchez, admission of expert testimony about
case-specific facts was error—unless the documentary evidence the experts relied upon
was independently admissible”].) In Jeffrey G., for example, the court observed that,
“although the prosecution experts’ testimony was based on hearsay, there was evidence in
the record [i.e., the testimony of the defendant and a psychologist who examined him] to
support much of this otherwise improper testimony under Sanchez.” (Jeffrey G., supra,
13 Cal.App.5th at p. 506.) 14 “If prior unobjected testimony supported the prosecution
experts’ case-specific testimony,” the court concluded, “the testimony was not
objectionable under Sanchez.” (Id. at p. 510.) As we discuss below, the same is true here:
much of the expert testimony to which Flint objects was based on victim testimony, party
admissions, and other admissible evidence.
The People do not deny that, in all but one of the 13 instances Flint lists, their
expert, Sims, recounted case-specific hearsay, treating the asserted facts as true, without
having any personal knowledge of those facts. Although the People submit that Sims
merely “discussed the facts already testified to by the three victims and [Flint],” Sims was

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There is no suggestion that the defendant’s testimony there was compelled.
(Jeffrey G., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 504.)

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not responding to hypothetically worded questions or directly discussing witness
testimony. Rather, he recounted as true case-specific out-of-court statements that he read
in various reports. Flint argues this was error because, even if such evidence was
independently proven through another witness, it was not presented to the expert in the
form of a hypothetical question, as Sanchez contemplates. We think that, in these
circumstances, cases such as Vega-Robles and Jeffrey G. are only superficially in tension
with one another. The correct analysis, in our view, boils down to harmless error. It
seems to us that even if the admission of expert testimony reciting as true case-specific
hearsay that was independently proven through other witnesses technically constituted
error, at most such error would be harmless on this record. (See People v. Vega-Robles,
supra, 9 Cal.App.5th at p. 414 [admission of expert testimony based on inadmissible
hearsay was harmless error, given the “plethora of admissible evidence” on defendant’s
gang affiliation and leadership status].) Accordingly, as in Jeffrey G., the issues presented
here turn on “(1) the exact nature of the case-specific evidence to which the prosecution
expert[] testified without evidentiary support and (2) whether this testimony was
prejudicial to defendant.” (Jeffrey G., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at pp. 506–507.) It is to
those issues that we now turn.
b. The Expert Recited Certain Case-Specific Hearsay As A Basis For His
Opinions
Certain of Sims’s testimony based on alleged case-specific hearsay did not recite
hearsay at all, but instead statements that were properly admitted under a hearsay
exception or that did not constitute hearsay at all.
First, the People point out that, in his challenged testimony, Sims relied on
statements Flint made to Sims during their evaluation interviews, and the People contend
this testimony was admissible under the hearsay exception for party admissions. (Evid.
Code, § 1220.) The People submit the exception applied to 2 of the 13 instances that Flint
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after recounting facts he gleaned from a police report about how Flint abused one of his
four young victims, Sims testified that Flint gave him the same account in one of their
interviews. In the other instance, Sims testified that he diagnosed Flint as having an
amphetamine use disorder by reviewing reports and “discussing the specific symptoms of
[that] disorder . . . .” Although Sims did not specify the person with whom he discussed
those symptoms, he confirmed he based the diagnosis in large part on Flint’s self-
reporting, suggesting the discussion was with Flint. The conclusion is further supported
by the fact that before and after this testimony, Sims was recounting information Flint
provided in their interviews. Flint does not specifically deny that he self-reported his
amphetamine use to Sims, or that Sims’s testimony in the two instances was covered by
the hearsay exception for party admissions to the extent it described statements Flint made
in their interviews. Rather, he expressly concedes that statements he made to Sims were
not inadmissible. We conclude that the exception did apply and that Sims’s testimony in
those two instances was admissible to the same extent. Sims’s succinct accounts of
(identical) information that he read in police or medical reports on those points constituted
case-specific hearsay.
Second, the People also contend that one of the instances of Sims’s challenged
testimony was not hearsay. In that instance, Sims testified generally that he spoke to three
doctors and a behavioral specialist at the state hospital where Flint was held before trial.
The district attorney then asked whether those individuals “at any point . . . indicate[d] . . .
that [Flint] had been working in depth on his previous offenses.” Sims responded, “None
of them stated [Flint] was working in depth” on his previous offenses. The People
contend the response did not qualify as hearsay because Sims merely testified about the
absence of any such statements. Flint objects that the exchange implied the state hospital
personnel effectively conveyed an opinion that Flint was not working in depth on his
issues. The testimony, he contends, therefore effectively permitted inadmissible hearsay

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to be presented “through the back door.” Flint cites no authority to support his argument
and we are not persuaded.
As our Supreme Court observed in People v. Zamudio (2008) 43 Cal.4th 327
(Zamudio), “ ‘ “[h]earsay evidence” is evidence of a statement that was made other than
by a witness while testifying at the hearing and that is offered to prove the truth of the
matter stated.’ (Evid. Code, § 1200, subd. (a), italics added.)” (Id. at p. 350.) Flint is
arguing that the failure of the hospital personnel to offer a specific comment about the
level of effort he was expending on his previous offenses constituted a statement under the
hearsay rule. (Ibid.) But, as the court recognized in Zamudio, “ ‘nonverbal conduct’—
such as a person’s silence—constitutes a ‘statement’ under the hearsay rule only if it was
‘intended by [the person] as a substitute for oral or written verbal expression.’ ([Evid.
Code], § 225.)” (Ibid.) In the cited instance, however, Sims did not testify about any
specific interaction with hospital personnel or describe any nonverbal conduct, such as
silence, that might have been a substitute for verbal expression. (Cf. People v. Jurado
(2006) 38 Cal.4th 72, 129 [“For purposes of the hearsay rule, conduct is assertive if the
actor at the time intended the conduct to convey a particular meaning to another person”].)
It might be a different matter, for example, had Sims testified that he specifically asked
hospital personnel for their opinion about the level of effort Flint was expending in his
treatment, and they responded with silence and assertive conduct. But here Sims was not
asked about any specific conversation and he did not describe any specific verbal or
nonverbal assertion constituting an out of court statement. The cited testimony was not
hearsay.
Having concluded that Sims’s challenged testimony in two instances relied in part
on information Flint provided him, which was covered by a hearsay exception for party
admissions, and in a third instance did not qualify as hearsay, we are left with 10 instances
in which Sims’s testimony included some case-specific facts that he gleaned from out-of-
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applied, arguably making that testimony inadmissible. In those instances, and in the two
instances previously mentioned when he drew in part on case-specific hearsay statements,
Sims primarily described the facts and surrounding circumstances of Flint’s prior offenses.
Additionally, he: repeated one fact contained in the report prepared by Flint’s witness,
psychologist Abbott; recounted that Flint attempted to enter the sex offender treatment
core group at the state hospital, but then withdrew from it; and asserted that Flint
corresponded with one victim’s mother while he was in prison following his conviction
for abuse of other victims. The admission of such expert testimony arguably was error.
As we discuss in the next section, however, we conclude that any such error was harmless.
c. Any Error Was Harmless
The People contend that any error in admitting Sims’s testimony was harmless
under the standard set forth in Watson, supra, 46 Cal.2d at p. 836. Flint disputes the
applicability of the Watson standard, contending that it would apply if the error concerned
“just a single piece of evidence or a few pieces of evidence,” but asserting that Sims’s
case-specific hearsay was pervasive and prejudicial, requiring automatic reversal under
People v. Blackburn (2015) 61 Cal.4th 1113 (Blackburn). The testimony infected his
entire trial, Flint asserts, resulting in a miscarriage of justice, even if the remaining
evidence sufficed to prove he was an SVP. Alternatively, Flint contends reversal is
required under the Watson standard, because this was a close case, and the People would
have made a weaker showing had they been forced to rely on hypothetical questions in
examining Sims. We do not agree with either contention.
As an initial matter, we are not persuaded that Blackburn requires automatic
reversal here without inquiry into the strength of the evidence. (See Blackburn, supra,
61 Cal.4th at pp. 1132–1133.) In Blackburn, our Supreme Court observed that “most
errors can be harmless.” (Id. at p. 1133.) Only errors that “operate to deny a defendant an
‘ “orderly legal procedure” ’ [citations]” (ibid.), i.e., those “ ‘ “affecting the framework
within which the trial proceeds, rather than simply an error in the trial process itself” ’

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[citation]” (id. at p. 1136), can entail a miscarriage of justice under article VI, section 13
of the state Constitution, requiring automatic reversal. (Id. at pp. 1133–1136.) “Such
errors are ‘ “analogous to” ’ those identified in the United States Supreme Court’s
decision in Arizona v. Fulminante (1991) 499 U.S. 279, 290 [citation], including depriving
a defendant of counsel, using defendant’s coerced confession in a criminal trial, or trying a
defendant before a biased judge [citation].” (People v. Shiga (2016) 6 Cal.App.5th 22,
45–46.)
In Blackburn, the error was a failure to obtain a valid jury waiver from a mentally
disordered offender before a trial to extend his involuntary civil commitment. (Blackburn,
supra, 61 Cal.4th at pp. 1116–1117, 1132–1133.) In concluding automatic reversal was
required, the court quoted its reasoning in People v. Lightsey (2012) 54 Cal.4th 668, where
it held that “failure to appoint counsel to represent a defendant during a mental
competency proceeding, in violation of [Penal Code] section 1368, was automatically
reversible because it was ‘ “analogous to” ’ the ‘ “total deprivation of the right to counsel
at trial.” [Citation.]’ ([Id.] at p. 699.)” (Blackburn, supra, at p. 1133.) In such
circumstances, Blackburn observed, the reviewing court could not “ ‘simply excise some
item of evidence in order to “make an intelligent judgment” [citation] about whether the
competency determination might have been affected by the absence of counsel to
represent defendant.’ ” (Ibid.) There was no reasoned manner in which to assess the
effect of the absence of counsel, the court decided, “ ‘because the lack of true adversarial
testing denied [the] defendant the basic procedure by which his competence should have
been determined.’ [Citation.]” (Ibid.; see also, People v. Sivongxxay (2017) 3 Cal.5th
151, 179 [standard “contemplates a limited class of structural errors, consisting of ‘ “[t]he
kinds of errors that, regardless of the evidence, may result in a ‘miscarriage of justice’
because they operate to deny a criminal defendant the constitutionally required ‘orderly
legal procedure’ (or, in other words, a fair trial)—for example, the denial of the

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defendant’s right to a jury trial or to an impartial trial judge [citation]—[and] all involve
fundamental ‘structural defects’ in the judicial proceedings . . .” ’ ”].)
Flint cites no case law concluding that automatic reversal is required following an
evidentiary error concerning an expert’s hearsay testimony. Our review confirms, to the
contrary, that “the erroneous admission of expert testimony,” including expert testimony
containing inadmissible case-specific hearsay statements, is reviewed under the Watson
standard. (Conservatorship of K.W., supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 1286; People v. Ochoa
(2017) 7 Cal.App.5th 575, 589; Stamps, supra, 3 Cal.App.5th at p. 997.) This is true even
where the expert’s testimony included multiple statements that were inadmissible under
Sanchez. (Cf. Conservatorship of K.W., supra, at pp. 1285–1286.)
Applying this standard, we note first that Sims’s testimony on these points was
relatively brief. While his entire testimony consumed 218 transcript pages, the challenged
portions comprise no more than 16 pages. Further, our review confirms that, with one
exception, Sims’s inadmissible case-specific hearsay testimony, based on out of court
statements contained in reports he read, merely duplicated other testimony to which Flint
did not object.
In particular, Sims’s hearsay testimony duplicated testimony by three of Flint’s
former victims, who confirmed facts and surrounding circumstances of Flint’s prior
offenses. Further, police and probation reports describing statements by two of the three
testifying former victims upon which Sims relied, would have been independently
admissible under section 6600, subdivision (a)(3), 15 which provides a statutory hearsay

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Section 6600(a)(3) provides in pertinent part: “The existence of any prior
convictions may be shown with documentary evidence. The details underlying the
commission of an offense that led to a prior conviction, including a predatory relationship
with the victim, may be shown by documentary evidence, including, but not limited to,
preliminary hearing transcripts, trial transcripts, probation and sentencing reports, and
evaluations by the State Department of State Hospitals.”

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exception for “documentary evidence” regarding the details of the offenses that led to
prior convictions. (People v. Otto (2001) 26 Cal.4th 200, 206–208 [“the only reasonable
construction of section 6600(a)(3) is that it allows multiple-level hearsay to prove the
details of the sex offenses for which the defendant was convicted”; “the Legislature
apparently intended to relieve victims of the burden and trauma of testifying about the
details of the crimes” and “may have also been responding to a concern that victims . . .
would no longer be available”].) While the People admittedly did not introduce the police
reports and probation reports containing such statements into evidence under this
exception, the availability of that exception further underscores the lack of prejudice to
Flint.
Sims’s testimony also duplicated other testimony he provided about statements
Flint made when Sims interviewed him, which were admissible as party admissions.
(Evid. Code, § 1220.) Specifically, Sims testified Flint told him certain facts about his
abuse of the four victims, that he had had an amphetamine problem, and that he entered
and withdrew from some class or group that included members of the formal sex offender
treatment program but did not himself join the formal program.
Finally, Sims testified about a fact included in the report of Flint’s expert,
psychologist Abbott—i.e., that Flint admitted having masturbatory fantasies about one of
his young victims, which intruded on his relationship with his wife—but Abbott also
provided testimony on this point. Abbott’s testimony about what Flint told him was
admissible as relaying a party admission. (Evid. Code, § 1220.)
Flint does not suggest Sims’s hearsay testimony offered any facts not included in
the unchallenged testimony that it duplicated. Because Sims’s case-specific hearsay
testimony duplicated other admissible evidence, the evidentiary error in permitting it was
harmless under the standard stated in Watson, supra, 46 Cal.2d at p. 836. (People v.
Kopatz (2015) 61 Cal.4th 62, 86–87; People v. Reed (1996) 13 Cal.4th 217, 230–231.)

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 The sole exception—the one instance in which Sims testified to a case-specific fact
not otherwise covered by unchallenged testimony—also was harmless under Watson, to
the extent it qualified as inadmissible hearsay. In that instance, Sims testified that Flint
corresponded, while he was in prison following his conviction for his first offenses, with
the mother of his later victim. As Sims did not state the source of his information on this
point, we cannot determine whether he relied on information Flint supplied (i.e., an
admissible party admission) or on inadmissible hearsay contained in a report. In any
event, the testimony was not so significant that there was a reasonable probability the jury
would not have found Flint to be an SVP if the testimony had been excluded. The point
was relevant to whether Flint was likely to engage in sexually violent conduct that was
predatory if released. (§ 6600, subd. (e).) As noted, “predatory” includes an act “directed
toward . . . a person of casual acquaintance with whom no substantial relationship exists,
or an individual with whom a relationship has been established or promoted for the
primary purpose of victimization.” (Ibid., italics added.) Sims had testified that, in his
opinion, Flint’s victims all qualified as casual acquaintances, and, if credited by the jury,
this would have satisfied the predatory element. One of Flint’s victims also had testified
that Flint gave her candy and a ride in his truck, and this also arguably demonstrated
predatory conduct. Sims’s testimony that Flint wrote to the later victim’s mother, possibly
with the intent of having a connection to the victim, therefore, was not essential to the
People’s case and on its own was harmless.
We are unconvinced by Flint’s argument that the People’s case would have been
fatally weakened if Sims’s case-specific hearsay testimony had been excluded, because, as
discussed, that testimony duplicated other admissible evidence, including testimony from
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testimony recounting Flint’s own admissions on various points. 16 Nor do we agree that,
having heard the prior victims’ testimony, the jury would have given significantly less
weight to Sims’s testimony had it been offered in response to proper hypothetical
questions.
Flint submits the error must be considered prejudicial because this was a “close
case.” It was a close case, he contends, because he presented the testimony of two expert
witnesses who concluded he was not an SVP, and who criticized Sims’s methodology. If
not for Sims’s “extensive case-specific hearsay,” Flint contends, a reasonable jury easily
could have reached a different result. We are not persuaded, however, either that a
disagreement among experts signals a close case, or that it is reasonably probable Sims’s
case-specific hearsay testimony, duplicating other unobjected to testimony, here tipped the
scales. By way of comparison, in Jeffrey G., supra, this court concluded the introduction
of unsupported case-specific expert testimony, in a case involving the conditional release
of a criminal defendant following his NGI commitment, was prejudicial based in part on
the fact that the trial court there expressly found the decision to be a “close call,”
signifying that relatively small changes in the record could be important. (Jeffrey G.,
supra, 13 Cal.App.5th at p. 511, italics added; see also id. at p. 505.) Here, in contrast, the
trial court made no such finding. 17 Accordingly, we reject Flint’s argument that the
evidentiary error was prejudicial.

16
Our analysis of prejudice does not rely on the existence of corroborating
evidence supplied by Flint’s compelled trial testimony.
17
Flint also submits that Sims’s “version of the facts was not exactly the same” as
the versions that Flint and the victims supplied in their respective testimony, and suggests
the People’s case therefore would not “have inspired confidence.” As he does not develop
this argument by identifying specific differences in the testimony, citing to the record
where the differing testimony appeared, and explaining the significance of the differences,
we cannot evaluate this argument. (See, e.g., Pfeifer v. Countrywide Home Loans, Inc.
(2012) 211 Cal.App.4th 1250, 1282 [“An appellate court ‘will not develop the appellants’
argument for them’ ”]; Alki Partners, LP v. DB Fund Services, LLC (2016) 4 Cal.App.5th

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 C. Cumulative Error
Finally, Flint contends the commitment order should be reversed for cumulative
error. We have already concluded that any error in compelling Flint to testify was
prejudicial. A new SVP civil commitment hearing will be required, therefore, if, on
remand, the trial court determines the differential statutory treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s
was not justified, signifying that it was error to compel Flint to testify. Absent such a
finding, the only error was that under Sanchez, which we have already determined was not
prejudicial. We therefore reject Flint’s claim of cumulative error.
III. DISPOSITION
The matter is remanded to the trial court for further proceedings. On remand, the
trial court is directed to conduct an evidentiary hearing at which the People will have the
opportunity to show that the differential statutory treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s discussed
herein is justified. If the trial court determines the People have carried their burden to do
so, it shall confirm its order finding Flint an SVP and committing him to DSH. If it
determines the People have not carried their burden, the trial court shall conduct a new
hearing under the SVPA to determine whether Flint is an SVP.

574, 590 & fn. 8 [“courts will decline to consider any factual assertion unsupported by
record citation at the point where it is asserted”].)

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Schulman, J. *

We concur:

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Streeter, Acting P.J.

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Reardon, J.

*
Judge of the Superior Court of California, City and County of San Francisco,
assigned by the Chief Justice pursuant to article VI, section 6 of the California
Constitution.
People v. Flint (A144631)

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People v. Flint (A144631)

Trial Court: Mendocino County Superior Court
Trial Judge: Honorable Ann Moorman

Counsel for Defendant & Rudolph G. Kraft, by appointment of the Court of
Appellant: Appeal under the First District Appellate Project.

Counsel for Plaintiff & Kamala D. Harris and Xavier Becerra, Attorneys
Respondent: General; Gerald A. Engler, Chief Assistant Attorney
General; Jeffrey M. Laurence, Senior Assistant
Attorney General; Laurence K. Sullivan, Supervising
Attorney General, Bridget Billeter and Moona Nandi,
Deputy Attorneys General.

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