*751OPINION.
Black:Section 23 (a) of the Revenue Act of 1934 provides:
SEC. 23. DEDUCTIONS FROM GROSS INCOME.
In computing net income there shall be allowed as deductions:
(a) Expenses.—All the ordinary and necessary expenses paid or incurred during the taxable year in carrying on any trade or business, * * *
Undoubtedly, petitioner’s principal business was that of investment banker, as a- partner in the firm of White, Weld & Co. However, in' 1934 Horatio Hathaway, an old customer of petitioner, died and left an estate valued at approximately $1,500,000, and petitioner was named as executor of the estate in decedent’s will. Petitioner qualified as executor of the estate. His duties as executor did not require *752all of bis time and he continued -his duties as a member of the firm of White, Weld & Co.
The testimony is that petitioner’s duties as executor of this large estate did require a considerable amount of his time and that he found it necessary to employ J. Thomas Baldwin to assist him This was done on account of Baldwin’s experience in dealing with estates in administration and trusteeship. Also he employed Miss Brennan to do clerical work which was incident to his duties as executor.
Petitioner received $15,000 for his services as executor in 1934 and $15,000 for his services in 1935. In 1935 he paid Baldwin $3,000 and Miss Brennan $350 for their services in assisting him. These payments were made from the compensation which petitioner received as executor.
On these facts petitioner contends that he was engaged in the business of being executor of a large estate, which required considerable time and responsibility, and that the $3,350 paid Baldwin and Miss Brennan represented ordinary and necessary expenses paid and incurred in carrying on a trade or business within the meaning of the applicable statute.
Respondent does not dispute that petitioner paid Baldwin and Miss Brennan the amounts in question nor that the amounts were reasonable for the services which they actually performed, but defends his disallowance of the deductions on the ground that petitioner’s activities as an executor did not constitute a business within the meaning of that term as used in section 23 (a) of the Revenue Act of 1934. Respondent cites Ames v. Commissioner, 49 Fed. (2d) 853, as his principal authority in support of his position. We think that Ames v. Commissioner is not controlling. In that case the estate of Charles W. Ames, deceased, was the taxpayer and the court held that an executor’s mere receipt of dividends and payment of testator’s contractual debts was not carrying on a trade or business.
In the instant case we do not have the question before us as to whether the estate of Horatio Hathaway, of which petitioner was an executor, was carrying on a trade or business in 1935. Our question is whether petitioner’s activities as executor of the estate of Horatio Hathaway for which he earned $15,000 in 1934 and $15,000 in 1935 constituted carrying on a trade or business, and we think that question must be answered in the affirmative. See Wallace’s Estate v. Commissioner, 101 Fed. (2d) 604. In the latter case the court pointed out that certain cases which had held that estates which were mere passive investors were not engaged in a trade or business, were not applicable. The court distinguished that line of cases from the one which it had before it, in the following language:
But these cases do not justify the holding that an executor or trustee when he performs the duties of his position for pay is not engaged in business. The *753distinction between the activities of an estate and the activities of the representatives of the estate are obvious. There are many capacities of a business nature in which an individual or a corporation may serve an estáte in the course of liquidation; and it is common knowledge that a substantial part of the business of certain corporations consists of the services which they render as executor or trustee for a specified compensation. The Board of Tax Appeals itself in Abbott v. Commissioner, 38 B. T. A. 1290, Case No. 167, has recently held that a lawyer in general practice, who derived a large part of his income for services rendered as executor or trustee, was engaged in business in so doing, and was entitled to deduct from his gross income as a business expense a sum paid to certain beneficiaries in settlement of a liability incurred in the administration of a trust. Cf. Tallman v. Commissioner, 37 B. T. A. 1060, Case No. 156.
The principle enunciated in this decision is applicable in the pending case, and no distinction arises because of the fact that the taxpayer was not regularly or continuously engaged in the business of performing the services of an executor. * * *
On the same grounds as stated by the court in the foregoing opinion, we think the instant case is distinguishable from such cases as City Bank Farmers Trust Co., Trustee, 39 B. T. A. 29; affd., 112 Fed. (2d) 457; affd., 313 U. S. 121; and George Vanderbilt Trust, 36 B. T. A. 967. Cf. also United States v. Pyne, 313 U. S. 127. Also we think we should point out that the instant case is distinguishable from cases where a taxpayer is serving as executor for some decedent relative, without compensation, and incurs certain losses or expenses in doing so. These we have held to be personal to the taxpayer rather than business expenses. See Stephen H. Tallman, 37 B. T. A. 1060.
We have no such state of affairs in the instant case. Petitioner was serving as executor for pay and as an incident to that employment he had to incur and pay certain ordinary and necessary business expenses. We think these are deductible under section 23 (a) of the Revenue Act of 1934. Upon this issue petitioner is sustained.
Reviewed by the Board.
'Decision will be entered wider Rule 50.