(dissenting) — In this consolidated case, petitioners James Rankin and Kevin Staab contend that their right to privacy pursuant to Washington Constitution article I, section 7 was violated when, as passengers in vehicles that had been lawfully stopped, the officers in their respective cases asked them for identification in the absence of evidence that Rankin or Staab was engaged in criminal activity. I disagree with the majority that the passengers were seized and would find that the inquiry for identification, by itself, did not infringe on Staab’s or Rankin’s right to privacy because, under the totality of the circumstances in each case, a reasonable person would have felt free to decline the officer’s request. I therefore dissent.
FACTS
James Rankin
On the night of September 17, 1999, Deputy Geoghagan saw a black Mustang, driven by Karena Gunn, roll through a stop line. Rankin was a passenger in that vehicle. Geoghagan proceeded to pull the vehicle over using the emergency lights on his marked patrol car and approached the passenger side window after the vehicle stopped in a grocery store parking lot. Geoghagan did not see Rankin commit an infraction, although Geoghagan recognized him as someone he had arrested one month prior for both possession of a stolen vehicle and possession of controlled substances. There is no indication that Rankin recognized Geoghagan as Rankin did not testify at the suppression hearing.
While Gunn was searching for her driver’s license, Geoghagan asked if Rankin had any identification (ID) on him. Rankin handed his ID card to Geoghagan, who wrote down *707the information. There is conflicting testimony whether Geoghagan immediately returned Rankin’s ID card, and the trial court did not make an explicit finding on that matter. Geoghagan estimated that about 20 seconds elapsed from the time he took Rankin’s ID, wrote down the information, and then returned the card. By this time Gunn had found her license, which she also handed to Geoghagan. The majority is incorrect when it says the deputy used the cards to run a check for possible warrants. Majority at 692. Rather, Geoghagan testified that he then took Gunn’s license and the information he had taken from Rankin’s ID card, stating he would “be right back.” Geoghagan had dispatch run a warrants check on both ID numbers, which revealed an outstanding warrant for Rankin’s arrest for violation of a no contact order. Gunn’s record was clear, and she was ultimately given a warning. Geoghagan estimated the warrants check took two to three minutes.
After discovering the outstanding arrest warrant, Geoghagan called for backup, and once another officer arrived, they approached the vehicle and arrested Rankin. There is uncertainty in the record whether a third patrol car arrived sometime during the stop. The search incident to arrest revealed a knife and a crystalline substance in Rankin’s pocket. After giving Rankin Miranda warnings (Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 86 S. Ct. 1602, 16 L. Ed. 2d 694 (1996)), Geoghagan asked Rankin what the crystalline substance was and how much he had on him, to which Rankin responded it was about one ounce of methamphetamine.
The trial court concluded that, under the totality of the circumstances, Rankin had been illegally seized when the vehicle was pulled over and that a reasonable person in Rankin’s position would have felt they were required to provide an officer their ID. The court suppressed the discovery of the methamphetamine and dismissed the case.
Kevin Staab
The following facts are undisputed. Late on March 3, 1999, Staab was riding in a vehicle stopped for a malfunc*708tinning license plate light. Officer Renninger was driving in a marked patrol car and stopped the vehicle using his lights and siren. Renninger asked the driver for his license, proof of insurance, and registration. In the same tone he asked Staab, “Can I see your driver’s license or proof of identification?” although Renninger did not suspect Staab of criminal activity. According to Staab, Renninger did not ask for the identification in a polite tone. Renninger agreed with that characterization. Staab responded that he did not think he had any ID on him, but he nonetheless reached in his left front shirt pocket and as he pulled out an ATM (automated teller machine) card, a clear plastic bag containing a white chalky substance fell out. Staab put the bag back in his pocket and gave Renninger his name orally.
Renninger did a computer check of the driver and Staab, both of which came back clear. While Renninger was running this check, Officer Syler arrived to assist with the stop; Renninger related what he had seen in the plastic bag. Both officers returned to the vehicle and arrested Staab. The search incident to the arrest produced the bag of white chalky powder that Renninger suspected was cocaine.
The trial court found that Renninger was within his authority to ask Staab for identification and that the circumstances of this case did not suggest any coercive police conduct. It ultimately denied Staab’s motion to suppress the evidence of cocaine. Staab requested a stipulated facts trial and was found guilty of possession of a controlled substance.
ISSUES
May an officer request the identification of a passenger in a lawfully stopped vehicle, absent an articulable suspicion of criminal activity or other reasonable rationale for doing so, without violating the passenger’s right to privacy pursuant to Washington Constitution article I, section 7?
*709If so, should the officer be required to inform the passenger of his or her right to refuse the request for identification?
ANALYSIS
Standard of Review
On a motion to suppress, this court reviews disputed findings of fact under a substantial evidence standard. State v. Mendez, 137 Wn.2d 208, 214, 970 P.2d 722 (1999). Evidence is substantial if it is sufficient to convince a reasonable person of the truth of the finding. Id. Where substantial evidence supports challenged facts, those facts will be binding on appeal. State v. Hill, 123 Wn.2d 641, 647, 870 P.2d 313 (1994). Unchallenged findings of fact are verities on appeal. Id. at 644. Whether an encounter with police is permissive or a seizure is a mixed question of law and fact. State v. Thorn, 129 Wn.2d 347, 351, 917 P.2d 108 (1996). Yet, whether the facts may be characterized as a seizure is a legal question that is reviewed de novo. Id.
Washington Constitution article I, section 7
Article I, section 7 of the Washington Constitution provides: “[n]o person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” This section requires that (1) there be a privacy interest worthy of protection, and (2) the government engages in some activity that infringes on that privacy interest. See City of Seattle v. McCready, 123 Wn.2d 260, 270-71, 868 P.2d 134 (1994). The question of whether an interest is accorded privacy protection under article I, section 7 also includes “an examination of whether the expectation is one which a citizen of this state should be entitled to hold.” Id. at 270. Subject matter that is voluntarily exposed to the public is not considered part of a person’s private affairs. State v. Young, 123 Wn.2d 173, 182, 867 P.2d 593 (1994).
In the context of police-citizen interactions, this court has utilized a seizure type test to determine whether police *710have engaged in an activity that infringes on an individual’s privacy right. See State v. Young, 135 Wn.2d 498, 957 P.2d 681 (1998). Accordingly, a person is seized, for purposes of article I, section 7, when his or her freedom of movement is restrained by means of physical force or a show of authority and when, in view of all surrounding circumstances, a reasonable person would not have felt free to leave or to refuse to answer an officer’s requests and end the encounter. In Young, 135 Wn.2d at 510, Washington adopted the test for Fourth Amendment “seizure” in United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 553, 100 S. Ct. 1870, 64 L. Ed. 2d 497 (1980), as the test for seizure analysis under Washington Constitution article I, section 7. See State v. O’Neill, 148 Wn.2d 564, 574, 62 P.3d 489 (2003); Florida v. Bostick, 501 U.S. 429, 436, 111 S. Ct. 2382, 115 L. Ed. 2d 389 (1991); Thorn, 129 Wn.2d at 351-52.
“[T]he test for disturbance of a person’s private affairs under article I, section 7 is a purely objective one, looking to the actions of the law enforcement officer. ...” Young, 135 Wn.2d at 501. “[N]ot every encounter between a police officer and a citizen is an intrusion requiring an objective justification.” Mendenhall, 446 U.S. at 553. Passive officer-community interaction is a necessary component of law enforcement efforts. Young, 135 Wn.2d at 511. However, circumstances that may indicate a seizure has occurred, irrespective of whether the person tried to leave the scene or cease the exchange, include: “the threatening presence of several officers, the display of a weapon by an officer, some physical touching of the person of the citizen, . . . the use of language or tone of voice indicating that compliance with the officer’s request might be compelled,” Mendenhall, 446 U.S. at 554, or a forceful stride. Thorn, 129 Wn.2d at 353. As a matter of law, “otherwise inoffensive contact” cannot amount to a seizure absent such indications. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. at 555. Rankin and Staab have the burden of showing their private affairs have been disturbed. See Young, 135 Wn.2d at 510.
Rankin and Staab insist that a seizure analysis is not dispositive in an article I, section 7 claim for protection. *711Touting the “unique privacy rights of innocent passengers,” Rankin advocates solely a privacy analysis that balances the individual’s privacy interest against the State’s authority of law to infringe on that interest. Rankin and Staab argue that Geoghagan and Renninger required the surrender of their respective identification without authority of law. However, in fact neither of them surrendered their identification; at most Geoghagan looked at the identification for 20 seconds, took down the information, and handed it back. Staab did not produce any identification and responded orally with his name.
Rankin’s and Staab’s position is contrary to the law established by this court in Young, 135 Wn.2d 498, and recently affirmed in O’Neill, 148 Wn.2d 564. A consensual surrender vitiates any infringement of privacy; a required surrender elevates the encounter to a seizure. See Mendenhall, 446 U.S. at 553; Young, 135 Wn.2d at 510. This necessarily overlaps with seizure law, and obligates a seizure analysis under article I, section 7 in this case. The sole privacy analysis Rankin and Staab advocate is in discord with the law.
The test here is to determine, as a matter of law, that a seizure occurred and that therefore Staab’s or Rankin’s privacy right was violated. If, in view of all the surrounding circumstances, Rankin or Staab had a reasonable objective belief, based upon a show of authority, that he could not refuse to show identification to the officer, the test is met.
The majority agrees with both defendants and Amicus Curiae Washington Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers that State v. Larson, 93 Wn.2d 638, 642, 611 P.2d 771 (1980) stands for a categorical rule that makes it per se illegal for an officer to request or demand a passenger’s identification, absent some “independent cause.” Suppl. Br. of Pet’r (Staab) at 5-6; Suppl. Br. of Pet’r (Rankin) at 7-9; Br. of Amicus Curiae at 3. By the analysis of the majority, the mere seeking of identification from an innocent passenger constitutes an “investigation” of a passenger without cause. The Court of Appeals, on the other hand, concluded that *712Larson “merely prohibits an officer from demanding identification.” State v. Rankin, 108 Wn. App. 948, 955, 33 P.3d 1090 (2001).
Larson involved a defendant who was a passenger in a vehicle that was illegally parked at 3 a.m. more than one foot from the curb on the side of a road bordering a park. The officer who approached the passenger side “asked” for the defendant’s identification. Larson, 93 Wn.2d at 639-40. The defendant then opened her purse to retrieve her wallet to comply with the “request,” whereupon the officer shined his flashlight in her purse, which revealed a bag of marijuana. Id. at 640. There was no indication as to the officer’s tone of voice or the specific words spoken in soliciting the defendant’s identification.13 The court formed the issue as “whether it was reasonable under the circumstances for police to stop the vehicle in which petitioner was a passenger and to demand that she provide identification.” Id. at 641 (emphasis added). The court concluded, based on the facts, that the officers did not have an articulable suspicion of criminal activity and therefore had illegally seized the defendant by demanding her identification. Id. at 645.
The Court of Appeals read Larson to prohibit officer demands for identification (i.e., compliance is mandatory) absent some “independent basis for doing so.” Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 955. Perceiving that neither Rankin nor Staab was compelled to produce identification, the Court of Appeals reconciled this case with Larson and concluded that neither defendant’s right to privacy had been violated by a seizure for purposes of article I, section 7. Id. at 956, 959. Based on the above analysis oí Larson, the Court of Appeals took a more fact specific reading of Larson than Rankin’s and Staab’s bright line interpretation.
The defendants rely on the court’s one-time use of the words “requested” and “asked” that the court used to describe the officer’s solicitation for identification in Larson. *713See Larson, 93 Wn.2d at 640. The defendants and the majority would read Larson broadly to disallow an officer to ask anything of an innocent passenger absent some articulable suspicion of criminal activity or another reasonable rationale (such as officer safety).
However, after its initial, one-time use of “requested” and “asked,” words that admittedly could be read to convey an element of permissiveness, the court discussed the issue and referenced the facts of the case exclusively using terms commonly associated with compelled activities: officers “demanding” or “requiring” Larson’s identification, or “questioning” or “detaining” defendants. See id. at 641, 642, 643, 645. As noted above, the court even characterized the issue as one where the identification was demanded of the passenger. It appears that the court was targeting demands for identification that are not permissive, based on the court’s subsequent use of terms of art indicating compelled compliance. The majority fails to acknowledge these factors.
As noted above, the first step is to determine if the officers’ inquiry was a demand and, therefore, a seizure. The Larson court concluded, without an articulated analysis, that the officers’ inquiry was a demand, therefore a seizure, and concluded that the seizure lacked independent justification. For this reason, Larson is not instructive here, where we must determine, in the first place, whether the officers’ comments were a demand (a seizure) or permissive (no seizure). Only after drawing a conclusion that a seizure occurred do we arrive at where the Larson court began its analysis.
Moreover, even if we agreed that Larson was the test for seizure at one point, the bigger distinction to be drawn between Larson and the current case, that both the majority and concurrence misapprehend, is that the analysis in Larson is out-of-date. Mendenhall was reported only two days prior to Larson, thus the Mendenhall analysis that we use here was not realistically available to the Larson *714court.14 Both defendants and the majority greatly depend on Larson, which (save a fleeting reference) had no article I, section 7 analysis and relied on the Fourth Amendment. See id. at 640; O’Neill, 148 Wn.2d at 580 n.4. However, Young, 135 Wn.2d 498, first adopted the Mendenhall seizure test for use in seizure determinations in article I, section 7 cases in Washington 18 years after Larson.15 Young, 135 Wn.2d at 509-10. Further, in the course of determining that Young’s privacy rights were not violated when police shined a spotlight on him, utilizing the Mendenhall test for seizure, this court did not fault the officer’s prior request for Young’s identification as being violative of article I, section 7. Id. at 511.
A further distinction in Larson is that the court indicated that pretext might have been involved in the stop of the vehicle. In a footnote, the court expressed its uncertainty as to the officers’ motives in effectuating the stop, citing inconsistencies in the record and undisputed testimony that the “officer who demanded identification from the [defendant] treated her rudely and made comments to the effect that she was a prostitute or a streetwalker.”16 Larson, 93 Wn.2d at 642 n.l. Neither Staab nor Rankin claims here that pretext was involved in their cases. In fact, the trial court expressly found there was no pretext involved in Rankin’s case.
Young and its progeny should govern the question of whether a seizure occurred for purposes of Washington Constitution article I, section 7. While Larson is distinguishable because the officers demanded identification, it remains good law where there is a seizure. I agree with the majority that officer demands for identification constitute seizures. However, the law requires the court to look at the *715totality of the circumstances under a reasonable person standard to determine whether the officer’s inquiry was, in the first place, a demand or request. This is the initial question that must be answered. It is after a determination that the inquiry was a demand, and therefore a seizure, that a court must ascertain whether the officers in a given case had an articulable suspicion of criminal activity or other reasonable rationale for the seizure. According to the law established by this court, we decide the character of the inquiry for identification in this case on article I, section 7 grounds, using the Mendenhall test for seizure and the analysis set forth in Young and recently affirmed in O’Neill.
Other Jurisdictions
Rankin points to three cases from other jurisdictions that he claims support his position. First, he broadly argues that in State v. Carty, 170 N.J. 632, 635, 790 A.2d 903, modified, 174 N.J. 351, 806 A.2d 798 (2002), New Jersey’s Supreme Court held that any officer contact with occupants of a vehicle is so inherently coercive that any consent given by the occupants to search the vehicle is tainted. Carty does not make such a holding. In that case, the issue was whether a request to search a vehicle that was legally stopped requires a “reasonable and articulable suspicion ... of criminal wrongdoing.” Carty, 170 N.J. at 635. Several distinctions are apparent between Carty and the current case. The issue in Carty regarded warrantless searches of vehicles, generally, not a request for identification, as is the issue in the current case. New Jersey has a constitutional provision that specifically addresses consent searches and “requires police to have reasonable suspicion that a consent search will yield evidence of illegal activity prior to requesting such consent.” Id. at 638. The court had multiple studies before it that documented a rampant problem of troopers coercing consent to perform roadside searches. Moreover, searches of vehicles are more invasive of privacy than simply asking for one’s name.
Second, Rankin cites People v. Gonzalez, 324 Ill. App. 3d 15, 753 N.E.2d 1209, 257 Ill. Dec. 583 (2001), which held *716that police officers may not ask for a passenger’s identification without “reasonably suspecting the passenger of criminal activity.” Id. at 20. That court analyzed the request for identification under the Terry standard (Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 88 S. Ct. 1868, 20 L. Ed. 2d 889 (1968)). However, as discussed above, we are compelled to adhere to Young in order to determine whether a seizure has occurred at all. The Terry analysis is misplaced.
Third, Rankin relies on State v. Johnson, 645 N.W.2d 505 (Minn. Ct. App. 2002), a Minnesota Court of Appeals case where the defendant was considered seized when the officer retained defendant’s ID card to do a warrant check. The court went on to conclude that the defendant had been illegally seized because the officer both retained the ID card and ran a warrants check without suspicion of criminal activity. Id. at 511. However, as we do in the current case, in determining whether a seizure occurred at all, the Minnesota court used the objective, totality of the circumstances test provided to this court in Young, 135 Wn.2d 498. See id. at 509-10. Thus, contrary to Rankin’s assertions, the Minnesota court did not conclude that the defendant was seized by the initial request for ID. Moreover, the issue before this court is limited to whether the request for identification was a seizure.
In a strikingly similar case to the one at hand, Colorado’s Supreme Court concluded that a request for the identification of a passenger was not a seizure, under a reasonable person standard, after consideration of all the circumstances. People v. Paynter, 955 P.2d 68, 71 (Colo. 1998). The officer pulled up behind a legally parked vehicle and shined his spotlight; he did not activate the siren or emergency lights. Id. at 70. Paynter was arrested for an outstanding warrant after he and the driver complied with the request for IDs, which the officer retained while he performed a check. Id. Paynter argued that the initial request for identification effectuated a seizure since the officer had “no reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal activity” and that had it not been for the request, he would not have been *717arrested. Id. at 71. The court found nothing about the officer’s conduct that was so intimidating as to indicate that a reasonable person would not have felt free to decline the officer’s request for identification. Id. at 73. Paynter is persuasive here. It is true that the officers here approached the vehicles with lights activated, while the officer in Paynter did not (he activated his spotlight). But the officers in Staab’s and Rankin’s cases were performing lawful stops of vehicles and the scenario in Paynter lacked even that.
Colorado has delineated three categories of police-citizen encounters: “(1) arrests, (2) investigatory stops, and (3) consensual interviews.” Paynter, 955 P.2d at 72 (citations omitted). The Paynter court explained that ‘‘[d]uring a consensual encounter, a police officer seeks the voluntary cooperation of an individual by asking non-coercive questions. A citizen is free to leave at any time during such an encounter or to ignore the police officer’s questions.” Id. (citation omitted). The test enunciated for a consensual encounter is identical to the one we are compelled to use from Young, 135 Wn.2d 498, for use with seizure questions under Washington Constitution article I, section 7.17 Id. The court noted that an encounter with a police officer does not become a seizure simply because citizens may feel an inherent social compulsion to cooperate with police. Id. The court concluded that the interaction between Paynter and the officer was consensual and therefore not a seizure, “including the request and [Paynter’s] response,. . . because Paynter’s liberty was not restrained and his ‘voluntary cooperation . . . [was] elicited through non-coercive questioning.’ ” Id. at 73 (second alteration in original) (quoting People v. Johnson, 865 P.2d 836, 842 (Colo. 1994)).
James Rankin
In Rankin’s case, the trial court concluded that he had been seized by Deputy Geoghagan based on its factual *718findings that Rankin was an innocent passenger, Geoghagan recognized Rankin from an arrest the month before, there were multiple officers, and Rankin had a “limited mental sophistication.” Clerk’s Papers (Rankin) at 5-6. The trial court concluded, after argument on the issue, that pretext was not involved in the stop; it also found that Geoghagan had “requested” Rankin’s identification. Clerk’s Papers (Rankin) at 5. The Court of Appeals disagreed with the trial court’s findings, to wit, that Rankin’s subjective mental state was relevant, that Rankin recognized Geoghagan from the prior arrest, and that Rankin would have noticed the presence of multiple officers at the scene, all of which, the trial court concluded, contributed to Rankin’s reasonable belief he was not free to leave. Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 956-58. The Court of Appeals concluded that the above findings were unsupported by the record and reversed the suppression order. Id. at 957-59.
The standard is whether a reasonable person would have felt free to end the encounter, after consideration of all the circumstances. The trial court found that the prior arrest by Geoghagan was a circumstance that would have led Rankin to believe he was not free to leave. As the Court of Appeals concluded, this rationale is faulty for two reasons. First, Rankin’s recognition of Geoghagan as his prior arresting officer cannot be ascertained as Rankin did not testify. Second, and most importantly, the standard has always been strictly objective, and Rankin’s recognition of Geoghagan, even if definitively determined at trial, would not be relevant to the inquiry. But cf. State v. Barnes, 96 Wn. App. 217, 223, 978 P.2d 1131 (1999) (objective circumstances involved in concluding defendant was seized included defendant’s past experiences with the officer, but opinion unclear as to whether defendant recognized officer). The trial court’s reliance on its impressions of Rankin’s limited mental sophistication is similarly misplaced. Such factors do not bear on an objective analysis.
The other officer was called in by Geoghagan only after discovery of Rankin’s outstanding warrant. Ostensibly, *719Geoghagan would have ordered Rankin to stay in the car had Rankin attempted to leave the scene before the other officer arrived as Geoghagan had probable cause to arrest Rankin at the moment the outstanding warrant was discovered. The presence of the additional officer is irrelevant to the determination of whether Geoghagan’s request for Rankin’s identification was a seizure and whether it thereby violated Rankin’s privacy rights.
Seizure analysis under article I, section 7 focuses on the conduct of the officer, not on the subjective reaction of the individual. See Young, 135 Wn.2d at 507-08. Mendenhall suggests that the officer’s tone of voice or the language used may be instructive in determining whether an individual is seized. Examples of permissive language include: “Gentlemen, I’d like to speak with you, could you come to my car?” (State v. Nettles, 70 Wn. App. 706, 708, 855 P.2d 699 (1993)), and, “Can I talk to you guys for a minute?” (State v. Aranguren, 42 Wn. App. 452, 455-56, 711 P.2d 1096 (1985); State v. Richardson, 64 Wn. App. 693, 695, 825 P.2d 754 (1992)). “Wait right here” was characterized as coercive and constituted a seizure. State v. Ellwood, 52 Wn. App. 70, 73, 757 P.2d 547 (1988). The record is not clear on the phraseology or tone of Geoghagan’s request. However, there is testimony from the driver that he asked for Rankin’s identification in the same way he asked for the driver’s, while Geoghagan testified that he “asked [Rankin] if he had any identification on him.” Report of Proceedings (Rankin) at 5. Rankin has not met his burden of proof that a reasonable person, hearing what Geoghagan said, would not have felt free to refuse to identify himself.
Rankin urges this court to consider Geoghagan’s comment, “I’ll be right back,” made as he returned to his patrol car to run the names, as contributing to Rankin’s reasonable belief he was not free to leave. The record does not clarify whether Geoghagan directed his comment only to Rankin, and there is no basis to assume it was anything other than a statement made to the driver. It would be just as reasonable to conclude that Geoghagan was simply *720telling each individual that he would not be keeping them much longer. In any case, Rankin has not met his burden merely by proffering that the statement was made.
The Court of Appeals also disagreed with the distinction the trial court drew between officers approaching pedestrians and officers approaching innocent passengers in vehicles, based on the fact that a passenger’s mode of transportation is made unavailable when the vehicle is stopped, whereas a pedestrian is free to continue on his or her way as before. Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 956-58.1 agree. The trial court perceived, and Rankin maintains, that this distinction would contribute to a passenger’s reasonable belief that he is not free to leave. However, “the focus of the inquiry is not on whether the defendant’s movements are confined due to circumstances independent of police action, but on whether the police conduct was coercive.” Thorn, 129 Wn.2d at 353. Moreover, there is no precedent for drawing a distinction between passengers and pedestrians when undertaking a seizure analysis. As the Court of Appeals did, we should refuse to distinguish between police-pedestrian encounters and police-passenger encounters based on the differences in modes of transportation.
When the facts are distilled, the only ground upon which Rankin claims that he had a reasonable belief he was not free to leave is simply that Geoghagan requested Rankin’s identification. Rankin has failed to show that the request was made in such a way—through tone of voice, language used, or any other circumstances—as to show Rankin could have reasonably believed he was not free to leave. Of note, Rankin has not assigned error to the trial court’s finding that Geoghagan “requested” the identification, thus it is a verity on appeal. The surrounding circumstances cited by the trial court (presence of multiple officers, recognizing the arresting officer, and “limited mental sophistication”) were irrelevant considerations in an objective standard and, in any event, were not supported by the record. Thus, in viewing all the circumstances, Rankin voluntarily disclosed his identity to Geoghagan—information Rankin now as*721serts should be protected. Washington’s privacy law does not extend article I, section 7 protection to information voluntarily given. In Rankin’s case, we hold that his privacy was not infringed by Deputy Geoghagan’s mere request for identification because his compliance was not coerced or compelled, in view of all the circumstances. Rather, while Rankin was free to refuse, instead, he voluntarily provided identification. I would affirm the Court of Appeals’ reversal of the trial court’s suppression of the evidence.
Kevin Staab
The Court of Appeals did not disturb the trial court’s factual findings or legal conclusions on appeal and upheld the denial to suppress the discovery of the cocaine. In particular, the Court of Appeals concluded in Staab’s case that the trial court’s “factual finding” that Officer Renninger had not coerced Staab into producing identification was supported by the record.18 Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 956.
In addition to arguments like those already discussed above, Staab challenges the Court of Appeals’ reliance upon three cases involving police-pedestrian or passenger encounters: Mendez, 137 Wn.2d 208; Young, 135 Wn.2d 498; and State v. Armenta, 134 Wn.2d 1, 948 P.2d 1280 (1997). Staab urges this court to distinguish the pedestrian and passenger scenarios based on the difference between the modes of transportation. He disagrees with the Court of Appeals’ use of Mendez to support its conclusion that a passenger is in the same position as a pedestrian because the passenger’s privacy rights are undiminished by the stop. See Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 954-55. Maintaining the analogy to police-pedestrian encounters, the Court of Ap*722peals noted that, as with a pedestrian, “a mere request for identification from a passenger does not rise to the level of a seizure.” Id.
In Mendez, this court considered the validity of an officer’s order to a passenger that he remain inside a vehicle. The defendant was a passenger in a vehicle that was legally stopped. Mendez, 137 Wn.2d at 212. As soon as the vehicle came to a stop, Mendez and the driver exited the car and began walking away, at which point one of the officers ordered Mendez to get back in the vehicle. Id. at 212-13. Repeatedly fumbling with his clothes, Mendez instead continued to walk away, then broke into a run after an additional command to return to the vehicle. Id. at 213. A foot chase ensued, ending with Mendez’s arrest; the search incident to arrest produced a marijuana pipe. Id. Resolving the case on article I, section 7 grounds, this court concluded that an officer must be able to “articulate an objective rationale predicated specifically on safety concerns” to demand a passenger to stay in a vehicle or exit a vehicle. Id. at 220. The officer’s objective rationale need not meet the Terry stop standard of an articulable suspicion of criminal activity. Id.', see Terry, 392 U.S. 1. Relevant, but nonexclusive factors in this objective standard include: “the number of officers, the number of vehicle occupants, the behavior of the occupants, the time of day, the location of the stop, traffic at the scene, affected citizens, or officer knowledge of the occupants.” Mendez, 137 Wn.2d at 221. This court concluded that Mendez was illegally seized because the officers were unable to meet the objective rationale standard. Id. at 224.
In Armenta, which was decided on Fourth Amendment grounds, the defendants initiated contact with the officer when their car broke down; they accepted the officer’s offer to assist them. Armenta, 134 Wn.2d at 4-5. The officer asked both defendants for identification so he could alert dispatch as to where he was as a safety precaution. Id. at 5. There was no seizure when the officer asked for identification because an officer’s questioning regarding an individu*723al’s identity or a request for identification, without more, is unlikely to result in a seizure. Id. at 11. The court concluded that the officer’s request for identification would not have indicated to a reasonable person that he was not free to leave or end the encounter. Id. at 11-12.
Recall that in Young, 135 Wn.2d 498, this court held the defendant was not seized, under article I, section 7, when police shined a spotlight on him because the illumination “did not amount to such a show of authority a reasonable person would have believed he or she was not free to leave . .. until some positive command from [the officer] issued.” Young, 135 Wn.2d at 513-14.
Staab distinguishes Mendez, Armenia, and Young based on his perceived legal distinction between passengers and pedestrians. Staab further distinguishes Armenia based on the fact that the defendants there initiated the contact with the officer and distinguishes Young based on the court’s conclusion that the light revealed nothing that was not already in plain view. As previously discussed, there is no precedent for the distinction Staab and Rankin attempt to draw between pedestrians and passengers, and neither defendant offers a good reason to do so. The focus of the analysis is on the conduct of the officer, not on the individual’s status as pedestrian or passenger. The Court of Appeals recognized the factual distinctions between Staab’s and Rankin’s cases and the facts in Mendez, Armenia, and Young, but these distinctions do not vitiate their precedential value in the court’s seizure analysis.
Staab also contends that the Court of Appeals’ reading of Larson—that there must be a demand for identification before a seizure can be found—adds new elements to the Larson analysis. Staab perceives these new elements to be the factors the Court of Appeals identified as being relevant in determining whether a demand was made: the officer’s tone of voice or language, the officer’s position at the vehicle, and whether there has been a show of force. See Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 955. Staab notes that the Court of Appeals cited no authority for these elements and conse*724quently labels them as “new.” While the Court of Appeals did not cite to authority for those factors, it seems clear that they are consistent with the factors adopted in Mendenhall (Fourth Amendment) and Mendez (Washington Constitution article I, section 7). The Court of Appeals’ decision correctly finds that the trial court’s conclusion that Officer Renninger did not coerce Staab into giving his name is supported by substantial evidence in the record.
A central reason why an officer might want to know the names of the occupants in a vehicle is to have a list of witnesses if a court proceeding ensued on the traffic stop or perhaps even a criminal trial or investigation depending on the circumstances of the stop.
Concurrence
I disagree with the concurrence by Justice Fairhurst that “an officer’s detaining of a passenger during a traffic stop makes the passenger just as seized as the driver.” Concurrence at 701. We held to the contrary in Mendez, 137 Wn.2d at 222-23. It was not stopping the vehicle, rather the action of the officer in requiring Mendez to return to the vehicle which constituted the seizure. In Mendez the trial court held, “ ‘The traffic stop of the Mendez vehicle constituted a seizure of the vehicle and all of its passengers.’ ” Id. at 221 (quoting conclusion of law). We said, “the trial court’s conclusion Mendez was seized by the traffic stop is clearly wrong.” Id. at 222. The concurrence also cites State v. Tijerina, 61 Wn. App. 626, 628-29, 811 P.2d 241 (1991), which says, “[t]he stop of an automobile is a seizure of its occupants and must therefore be reasonable,” citing as authority State v. Kennedy, 107 Wn. 2d 1, 4, 726 P.2d 445 (1986). The authority cited is inapposite. What it actually says is, “Both the State and Kennedy agree that a stop, although less intrusive than an arrest, is nevertheless a seizure and therefore must be reasonable . . . .” Id. at 4. Nothing is said about the occupant other than the driver, Kennedy, who was charged with possession of marijuana. This court affirmed his conviction. Thus, the principle *725articulated in Tijerina is not supported by the authority cited. Furthermore, because Tijerina is a Court of Appeals case decided prior to our decision in Mendez, it has no precedential value. The final state case cited, State v. Stroud, 30 Wn. App. 392, 634 P.2d 316 (1981), is distinguishable because it was the manner of the stop, with a show of authority, which resulted in a seizure of the passenger, Stroud. “Under the totality of the circumstances, the officers’ attempt to summon the occupants of the parked car with both their emergency lights and high beam headlights constituted a show of authority sufficient to convey to any reasonable person that voluntary departure from the scene was not a realistic alternative.” Id. at 396. Under Washington law, merely stopping a vehicle for a traffic infraction, without more, does not result in a seizure of the passenger.
The federal cases cited by the concurrence do state that the stopping of an automobile and detaining its occupants constitutes a “seizure” under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments and must therefore be made under a standard of “reasonableness.” Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648, 653-54, 99 S. Ct. 1391, 59 L. Ed. 2d 660 (1979) (automobile stops for random checking of driver license and registration in the absence of any articulable facts to justify the stop are arbitrary and unreasonable). In Berkemer v. McCarty, the court held that a traffic stop “significantly curtails the ‘freedom of action’ of the driver and the passengers . . . .” 468 U.S. 420, 436, 104 S. Ct. 3138, 82 L. Ed. 2d 317 (1984). However, even though acknowledging the traffic stop constitutes a seizure, the court found that it did not amount to being in custody so as to require the giving of Miranda warnings. The court analogized the traffic stop to a “Terry stop” rather than a formal arrest. Id. at 439.
If the federal precedent cited requires this court to hold that the passengers, Rankin and Staab, were “seized” merely because the driver was stopped for a traffic infraction, then whether identification was requested or demanded would not matter, as they would already be seized. *726The determination would then be, is it reasonable to request identification from a person seized in the traffic stop. For all the reasons noted in the concurrence, I would answer that question yes. As in a “Terry stop,” the request for identification is a minimal intrusion and is permissible.
Requirement to Inform Passengers of Right to Refuse
Staab requests that we should require officers to alert innocent passengers of their right to refuse the officer’s request for identification. He notes that we have already done so in the context of police requests to enter an individual’s home to commence a search of the premises. See State v. Ferrier, 136 Wn.2d 103, 115, 960 P.2d 927 (1998)). Ferrier laid out a bright line rule for police conduct during a “knock-and-talk” warrantless search. Moreover, the court emphasized that “ ‘the home receives heightened constitutional protection.’ ’’Ferrier, 136 Wn.2d at 118 (quoting Young, 123 Wn.2d at 185). This court has guarded against extension of the Ferrier rule, even in situations involving searches of homes. See State v. Thang, 145 Wn.2d 630, 636-37, 41 P.3d 1159 (2002) (holding that defendant’s reliance on Ferrier was misplaced since police did not engage in a knock and talk procedure); State v. Williams, 142 Wn.2d 17, 19, 11 P.3d 714 (2000) (reliance on Ferrier inappropriate in case challenging search of apartment that commenced without police first informing of a right to refuse because police conduct did not constitute a knock and talk procedure). As stated in Paynter,
a consensual encounter does not become an investigatory stop because the police do not inform the individual that he or she is free to leave. “While most citizens will respond to a police request, the fact that people do so, and do so without being told they are free not to respond, hardly eliminates the consensual nature of the response.”
Paynter, 955 P.2d at 72 (quoting INS v. Delgado, 466 U.S. 210, 216, 104 S. Ct. 1758, 80 L. Ed. 2d 247 (1984)). It would be inappropriate to extend Ferrier to the current case, requiring officers to inform passengers of their right to *727refuse a request for identification, when this court has refused to do so in cases far closer in kind to the context addressed in Ferrier.
CONCLUSION
Pursuant to article I, section 7, an individual is free from government intrusion into his private affairs absent authority of law. I would hold: (1) without an independent reason for doing so, an officer may not require a passenger to produce his or her identification (see Larson, 93 Wn.2d at 642); (2) an officer’s mere request for identification from a passenger is not an infringement of privacy; and (3) a request for identification may be found to be coerced or compelled where there is a show of authority or circumstances presented that would lead a reasonable person to feel compelled to give their identification under the totality of the circumstances. In the instant case, neither petitioner’s privacy right was infringed upon by the officer’s mere request in their respective cases.
This court has refused to extend Ferrier to other circumstances involving searches of homes that did not involve knock and talk. Such a guarded jurisprudence suggests it would be inappropriate to extend Ferrier to require officers to inform vehicle passengers of their right to refuse a request for identification. I would affirm the Court of Appeals and therefore dissent.
Madsen and Bridge, JJ., concur with Ireland, J.
However, as is discussed more fully below, the record reflected that the ofEcers spoke to her rudely and insinuated she was a prostitute and a “street walker.”
Mendenhall was decided May 27, 1980; Larson was decided May 29, 1980.
Interestingly, both defendants’ briefs ignore this portion of the Young analysis and the interplay it established between article I, section 7 and seizure law.
The majority appears to ignore these surrounding circumstances when it says “the decision must be read in light of the facts of that case, which were that the officer merely ‘asked’ the passenger for the identification.” Majority at 696.
So, while Paynter was decided on Fourth Amendment grounds, its analysis is still instructive.
The Court of Appeals characterized this as a factual finding, despite its placement in the trial court’s conclusions of law. This treatment appears to be deliberate given a footnote in the opinion stating, “[a]lthough these findings were listed as conclusions of law, it is clear that the trial court was actually making a factual determination, and we treat them as such.” Rankin, 108 Wn. App. at 956 n.16. In any event, while the officer’s words and conduct would be factual findings, the trial court’s conclusion that they did not amount to coercive conduct (i.e., a seizure) would be a legal conclusion, which is reviewed de novo.