Upon an appeal from an order confirming an original award in this case we held that the commissioners had overlooked some elements of value in the properties acquired, and reversed the order, sending the matter to new commissioners to dispose of the questions in harmony with the suggestions of the opinion handed down at the time. (143 App. Div. 515.) The matters involved have been heard by a new commission, and the report of such commissioners has been made and confirmed by the court at Special Term, and appeal comes to this court. The learned justice at Special Term has handed down a memorandum correctly disposing of the contentions of the appellant in the main, and it hardly seems necessary to go into an extensive review of the record now before us. The principal contention of the appellant before the Special Term appeared to be that the claimants were not the owners of the property which had been taken, but, as the learned justice has pointed out, the city of Mew York in its petition alleged that it had no interest in the lands proposed to be taken, and it is hardly in a position now to urge title in the city for street purposes. Moreover, the purpose for which the premises in question are now taken is for ferry purposes, and the respondents certainly had some interest in the fee to the highways, and if it be conceded that the city had some interest in the premises for street purposes, it would still'be called upon to extinguish fee rights in the same when this public purpose was abandoned and the premises were taken for another public use. The position of the learned Special Term appears to be practically conceded, for it is now urged on this appeal that “Assuming, for purpose of argument, that the claimants owned in fee simple absolute the part of the strip taken which is under water, it was not a valuable waterway; on the contrary, it had little or -no value. The awards made by the commissioners are without evidence to support them, and made on erroneous assumptions and principles.” It is always to be borne in mind that the commissioners view the premises in this kind of proceedings, and it can never be said that there is no evidence before them as to the value of any of the property in question, unless it is shown that they have avoided this important part of them duties. Them own view of premises, in their relation to other property, is some evidence upon the question of value, and this evidence is not overcome by the testimony of witnesses tending to show that the property is not as valuable as the claimants urge. Our attention is called to certain testimony to the effect that a slip or waterway thirty feet in width is subject to limitations in use which would not make it as valuable as a wider way, but this by no means establishes that a slip of thirty feet in width in the harbor of Mew York is without value, or even that the value is insignificant. Both of the respondents now before this court have manufacturing or electric power plants upon the mainland adjacent,' and it is highly important to these claimants that they should have access to water for receiving and forwarding freight, and it does not appear that for these purposes more than *907thirty feet of clear way is necessary, however convenient it might be to have more space. We have examined the other points presented in behalf of the appellant, but we do not find reversible error in the record. Ho error in principle is pointed out, and the appellant having brought the parties into court upon the theory that they had rights in the premises which the city of Hew York did not own but which it was desirous of procuring for ferry purposes, we are of the opinion that it is notnowin aposition to urge a contrary state of facts, even though they rested upon a more tangible basis than we have been able to discover from the consideration of the record now before us. The order appealed from should be affirmed, with costs. Jenks, P. J., Hirschberg, Burr, Woodward and Rich, JJ., concurred. Order affirmed, with costs.