The defendants were indicted in the County Court of Queens county for the crime of assault in the second degree, and as to Benjamin McIntyre the crime was charged as a second offense. Both defendants were convicted of assault in the third degree, *19and having been sentenced they now apply for certificates of reasonable doubt.
Two errors are principally urged. One, that proof of defendant Benjamin McIntyre’s previous conviction should not have been admitted because he had been pardoned for that offense. The record shows that the previous offense was assault, that he had been found guilty and fined an amount which he had paid, and that several years later he had been pardoned by the governor and his rights of citizenship restored. A pardon removes the legal infamy of the crime, but it does not take away guilt or wash out the moral stain; and, as Hale says, “ it makes not the man always an honest man.” 2 Hale P. C. 278. A pardon takes away the penalty directly attaching to the offense but it does not destroy the fact that the crime was committed, nor that the person had been convicted of it. Baums v. Clause, 5 Hill, 196. “It is manifest that the appellant’s pardon and restoration to the rights of citizenship had no retroactive effect upon the judgment of conviction which remains unreversed and has not been set aside. We think the effect of a pardon is to relieve the offender of all unenforced penalties annexed to the conviction, but what the party convicted has already endured or paid, the pardon does not restore.” Roberts v. State, 160 N. Y. 217, 221.
While there is some contrariety of opinion (34 L. R. A. 402, note; 24 L. R. A. [N. S.] 435, note), the better reasoned authorities, including those of this state, are to the effect that a pardon does not wipe out the conviction to the extent of preventing such conviction from being used as the basis for indictment and proof upon a charge of being a second offender or an habitual criminal. People v. Price, 53 Hun, 185; affd., 119 N. Y. 650; People v. Carlesi, 154 App. Div. 481; affd., 208 N. Y. 547; affd., sub nom. Carlesi v. *20New York, 233 U. S. 51. The pardon in the Carlesi case seems to have been the same in substance as that in the present case and Mr. Justice Miller, writing for the Appellate Division, said that the decision was put upon the broad ground that, notwithstanding an absolute pardon, the prior conviction could be made the basis of conviction as a second offender. Mr. Justice Laughlin concurred, but upon the ground that the pardon was not unlimited. The Court of Appeals, however, affirmed the Appellate Division upon the opinion of Mr. Justice Miller.
The language of the United States Supreme Court, in Ex Parte Garland, 4 Wall. 333, is very broad. Bead in connection with the decision then made, it has been repeatedly followed, but the language evidently was not intended to he a holding in conflict to the views set forth in the Carlesi case. In the Garland matter, there was a general pardon and amnesty of persons participating in the War of the Bebellion, and it was intended to restore to such persons who came within its operation the same rights and privileges which they had possessed before the war.
That a pardon does not have the effect claimed by defendant is inferentially shown by the provisions of section 514-a of the Criminal Code, which provides that the certificate of a warden of a state prison “ shall be prima facie evidence on the trial of any person for a second or subsequent offense, of the imprisonment and discharge of such person, either by pardon or expiration of his sentence.” It is further shown by the provisions of section 1022 of the Penal Law, and the necessity for that provision is stated in People v. Price, 53 Hun, 185, 188.
The other error claimed is that'it was error to permit the prosecution to introduce in evidence an extract of the clerk’s minutes showing, among other things, the *21prior conviction of the defendant Benjamin McIntyre. This extract was from the minutes of the same court in which the present case was being tried, and contains no certification other than the words, “ a true extract from the minutes.” This is signed by the clerk and the seal of the county is affixed.
It is claimed that the method of proving a prior conviction is prescribed by the Criminal Code, and that this extract of minutes does not comply with those provisions. There are three separate methods provided in the Criminal Code for the proving of prior convictions, but these provisions are not exclusive. They do not restrict the method of furnishing such proof but on the contrary extend it. They prescribe additional ways in which such proof may be offered. It may be offered by any of the methods permitted in civil cases. Grim. Code, § 392. That may be in accordance with the rules of the common law or by any other competent proof (Code Civ. Pro. § 962), or by a certified copy of the paper or transcript of the record. Id. § 933. The original clerk’s minutes of course could be received in evidence when properly proved, or a certified copy of them could be admitted when properly certified. The certificate must state that the transcript or copy of the record has been compared with the original and that it is a correct transcript of the whole thereof. Code Civ. Pro. § 957. If the certifying officer has an official seal, that must be affixed. Id. § 958. But the seal is not required on the certified copy of a transcript or record of a court, where it is used in the same court. Id. § 959.
The provisions of the Criminal Code relating to the proof of prior convictions are found in sections 482-a, 514-a and 944-a. Section 482-a makes admissible a copy of the minutes of any conviction with the sentence of the court thereon, duly certified and sealed by the *22clerk, together with a certified copy of the indictment on which the conviction was had, where “ it shall appear by the certificate of the clerk, or otherwise, that no record of the judgment on such conviction, has been signed and filed.” This section appears to be of little service. At least that has been the experience in Kings county, for, with the possible exception of a case in which sentence was suspended, it has not been possible to get a certificate as required by that section, to the effect that no record of the judgment has been signed and filed.
Section 514-a makes admissible the certificate of the warden of any state prison, under his seal, containing the name of the person convicted, the' date and term of sentence and other particulars, for the purpose only of proving such conviction on a trial for a second offense. And section 944-a makes admissible a somewhat similar statement of the secretary of state, for the same purpose.
The extract of minutes offered by the people did not comply with any of the provisions of either the Civil or Criminal Code. Nor were those minutes proved by any competent evidence. Their admission in evidence was therefore error, but the defendant Benjamin McIntyre took the stand in his own behalf and then admitted this prior conviction. This made the error in receiving the extract of minutes harmless. In his charge the judge told the jury that if they found that the assault came within the definition of assault in the second degree they should find the defendant Benjamin McIntyre guilty as a second offender because the question of his former conviction was not at issue. This was error, for whether a defendant is a second offender must always be left to the jury, even though the defendant admits it. People v. Marendi, 213 N. Y. 600, 618. But this error, too, is harmless, for *23the jury did not find the defendants guilty of assault in the second degree.' The verdict was one of guilty of assault in the third degree. The court had charged that if that was the verdict the question of second offense was not to be considered.
It is claimed that there' was harmful matter contained in the extract of minutes outside of the fact of defendant Benjamin McIntyre’s previous conviction. After reciting the indictment, conviction and sentence, the extract continues by stating that the defendant was examined on oath and said, among other things, that he had been “ arrested four or five times, charge assault, never in prison.” These statements were evidently made in taking the defendant’s pedigree, as it is commonly called. The statute requires certain information to be transmitted to the secretary of state and the sheriff of the county of persons convicted and authorizes the examination of the defendant in order .to obtain it. Code Crim. Pro. §§ 941, 943, 485-a. But no such information as the former arrests of convicted persons, not resulting in conviction, is required to be furnished. The district attorney stated that such questions had always been asked in his county, and the minutes of the present trial show that similar questions were asked of both defendants after their conviction. While there may be no impropriety in asking the questions on the taking of their pedigree, it clearly is improper to admit in evidence on a subsequent trial the answers made to them showing prior arrests. But the minutes of this trial seem to indicate clearly that the defendants are guilty, and for that reason the error in admitting the fact of the prior arrests was not prejudicial.
There are many other claims of error made in the motion papers — in fact every exception taken on the trial is recited. They have all been reviewed and con*24sidered and there seems to be no error in any of them. For the reasons stated, no certificate of reasonable doubt can be granted. The motion is therefore denied.
Motion denied.