— This action was commenced to obtain a construction of the last will of Maria Schadraek, deceased, and to have it adjudged that the plaintiff is the legatee described in subdivision 1 of paragraph “ Third ” of said will, and that she is one of the three residuary legatees referred to in paragraph *271“ Sixth ” of said will. The appellant, Magdalena Fnhge, answered and asked to have it adjudged that she is the legatee described in the two paragraphs of the will referred to above. The question at issue upon the trial related to the identity of the legatee referred to as “ Lena Baumann ” in the following paragraphs of the will. Subdivision 1 of paragraph third provides that the testatrix gives “ The sum of $1,000 to my niece Lena Baumann of Richmond Hill in the County and Borough of Queens; ” paragraph sixth provides that the testatrix gives “ all the rest and residue of my estate to my three nieces, Helene Bang, Katherine Hainer, and Lena Baumann, to be divided among them share and share alike.” The plaintiff is a grandniece of the testatrix, and at the time the will was made resided at Richmond Hill. The appellant is a niece of the testatrix, and her maiden name was Magdalena Baumann. There was evidence received upon the trial to show that the testatrix was accustomed to speak of her as “ Lena Baumann,” and that while she resided at the time the will was made at a place about one mile from Richmond Hill, the testatrix was also accustomed to refer to this place as “ Richmond Hill.” It thus appears that the language used in these two paragraphs of the will does not accurately designate either the plaintiff or the appellant. It does not accurately designate the plaintiff because the reference in the will is to a niece of the testatrix, and the plaintiff is a grandniece. It does not accurately designate the appellant because while her maiden name was Magdalena Baumann her name at the time the will was made was Magdalena Fuhge and she did not reside at Richmond Hill. These facts appearing by extrinsic evidence there was a latent ambiguity in the will. Parol evidence was properly receivable in the effort to dissolve this ambiguity. (Lefevre v. Lefevre, 59 N. Y. 434 ; Matter of Taylor, Cloak v. Hammond, L. R. [34 Ch. Div.] 255 ; Henderson v. Henderson, 1 Ir. Rep. [1905] 353.) In view of the unanimous affirmance by the Appellate Division of the judg*272■ment appealed from, the single question which survives for consideration in this court relates to the rulings of the Special Term excluding the evidence of the witness Kellar. Mr. Kellar was the attorney for the testatrix and was the draftsman of and a subscribing witness to her will. The testatrix, a woman about seventy years of age, called upon Mr. Kellar and gave him instructions as to the drawing of her will. With her on this occasion and present at the office of Mr. Kellar at the time, was Mrs. Stiefhold. Mrs. Stiefhold lived with the testatrix and acted as companion and housekeeper. The instructions as to her will were given to Mr. Kellar in the presence of Mrs. Stiefhold, who, while within hearing, testified that she “ did not pay very much attention.” When Mr. Kellar was called as a witness he was asked as to the instructions he had received from .the testatrix as to the legacies and the provisions for the .residuary estate. The question was excluded under objection of the plaintiff and subject to the exception of the appellant. It thus becomes necessary to determine whether Mr. Kellar, the attorney, should have been permitted to testify to communications which took place between himself and his client, the testatrix, in the presence of Mrs. Stiefhold. This evidence should have been received and considered by the court below. (Doheny v. Lacy, 168 N. Y. 213, 223 ; People v. Buchanan, 145 N. Y. 1, 26 ; People v. Hayes, 140 N. Y. 484, 495 ; Brennan v. Hall, 131 N. Y. 160, 165 ; Matter of Eckler, 126 App. Div. 199, 203 ; People v. Bloom, 124 App. Div. 767 ; Matter of Barnes, 10 App. Div. 523, 527 ; Lecour v. Importers & Traders National Bank, 61 App. Div. 163, 168 ; Matter of Smith, 61 Hun, 101, 104 ; Matter of McCarthy, 55 Hun, 7, 11. See, also, People v. Andre, 153 Mich. 531, 539 ; Scott v. Aultman Co., 211 Ill. 612, 615 ; Roper v. State, 58 N. J. L. 420.) Mrs.' Stiefhold was not present and acting in the character of a confidential agent of the testatrix, nor was 'her presence necessary to enable the parties to communicate with each other. Ho attempt was made by the testa*273trix to prevent her hearing the communication which she made to her attorney. The fact that Mrs. Stiefhold did “ not pay very much attention ” to what was said does not alter the situation. She was within hearing and so far as the testatrix knew heard all that was said. If the testatrix had desired her communication with her attorney to be confidental she could have asked Mrs. Stiefhold to withdraw from the room or have communicated with her attorney when Mrs. Stiefhold was not present. She did not do either of these things, but on the contrary gave her instructions to her attorney as to the manner in which she wished to have her will drawn, in the presence of Mrs. Stiefhold. The fact that these instructions were given in the presence and in the hearing of Mrs. Stiefhold is a circumstánee indicative of the fact that'the communication was not made in confidence. A third person even though a mere stranger or bystander in whose hearing communications are made by a client to an attorney may testify to such communications. (Jackson v. French, 3 Wend. 337 ; People v. Buchanan, supra,.) To allow a stranger or bystander who overhears such a conversation to testify to what he heard and at the same time preclude the attorney of the client from giving his testimony as to what occurred might often result unfairly to the client for whose protection the privilege is designed. The communication not being confidential the attorney is not privileged from disclosing it. Where there is no confidence reposed, no privilege can be asserted. In such cases the attorney is permitted to testify not because the privilege has been waived, but because the communication, not having been made in confidence, was not privileged. The privilege which exempts one from giving testimony, except in so far as it is embodied in statutory provisions, cannot be extended to cover cases not within the reason upon which the privilege rests. The provisions of sections 835 and 836 of the Code of Civil Procedure apply only to those communications which are confidential in their nature, and, therefore, these *274sections are without application to the facts of this case. In certain cases in other jurisdictions a distinction has been attempted which permits the third person hearing such communications to testify, but holds the attorney bound to secrecy. (Gallagher v. Williamson, 23 Cal. 332 ; Blount v. Kimpton, 155 Mass. 378 ; Hartness v. Brown, 21 Wash. 655.) Such a distinction is without support in the reasons underlying the privilege which rests not only upon the professional character of the employment, but also upon the confidential nature of the comm unication. ISTor does the supposed distinction find support in the adjudications made in this State which are referred to above.
The statement made in the opinion in Butler v. Fayerweather (91 Fed. Rep. 458, 461) that “ the circumstance that other witnesses were present at the time when the codicil is alleged to have been executed and published, even though they heard all that took place, and were aware of the contents of the instrument, is wholly immaterial,” is not an accurate statement of the rule prevailing in this State and is not in accord with the authorities already cited.
The judgment should be reversed and a new trial granted, with costs to abide the event.
Willabd Bartlett, Ch. J., Hiscock, Oi-iase, Hogan, Milleb and Cardozo, JJ., concur.
Judgment reversed, etc.