(dissenting). The facts are accurately stated in Justice Smith’s memorandum.
It is not disputed that the only factual predicate for the police action which took place in this case was that supplied by an anonymous phone informant. Although some details of the tip were confirmed when the police spotted a person matching the description given by the informant in the location specified by the informant, it may be debated whether the ensuing police action, i.e., confronting the suspect with guns drawn, ordering him out of the car and frisking him and his companion without any prior inquiry, was reasonable. (See, e.g., People v Elwell, 50 NY2d 231; People v Bond, 116 AD2d 28; People v Russ, 61 NY2d 693.)
What seems less debatable, however, is that after the defendant and his companion had been removed from the car and had been frisked at gunpoint without the discovery of any weapons or other objectionable items, there existed no predicate for a wider search. The officers’ immediate safety was adequately assured by the frisk; it cannot be realistically maintained that two armed police officers were significantly endangered by two unarmed and, as the record indicates, cooperative, suspects. If the officers were concerned that there may have been a gun concealed within the closed bag in the car’s front seat, the reasonable course would have been to remove the suspects from the general vicinity of the car to a place where inquiry might have been pursued without apprehension. The suspects were, however, neither moved to a spot more distant from the car nor inquired of, even as might have been expected to verify details of the tip such as whether defendant was in fact the person known as "Poppo”. Rather, the closed bag in the car was searched directly.
It is now urged that this search was justified by safety considerations since it is uncritically accepted that the bag was within "grabbable” reach. But, manifestly, the suspects having been removed from the car, the closed bag and its contents still within the car were not within grabbable reach. Indeed, the Court of Appeals in circumstances precisely resembling those at bar refused to find that an item left within a car after the suspect’s removal therefrom was within grabbable reach and therefore properly subject to search for the *43officer’s protection. In analysis instructive in the present matter then Chief Judge Cooke writing for the court stated:
"One such exception [to the requirement of a warrant] is the search incident to arrest, the classic statement of which is in Chimel v California (395 US 752 * * *). It is grounded in protecting the safety of the arresting officer by permitting him to search for and seize weapons when there is reason to fear for his safety and in preventing the person arrested from destroying evidence of criminal involvement by permitting the arresting officer to search for and seize such evidence.
"Until the Supreme Court’s decision in the instant case, the search has been limited both temporally and geographically, a search being upheld only when it closely follows arrest and is of the person of the individual arrested and the area within his immediate reach (the 'grabbable’ area). In extending Chimel to the facts of this case, in which defendant’s jacket was neither on his person nor within his reach (he being outside the vehicle and the jacket being inside with its pocket zippered), the Supreme Court has departed from the rationale in Chimel. Once the exception is employed to justify a warrantless search for objects outside an arrested person’s reach it no longer has any distinct spatial boundary. As Judge wachtler, dissenting in People v Brosnan (32 NY2d 254, 267), put it, 'search and seizure law [becomes] uncontrollable when the rubric [is] adopted and the rationale discarded.’ ” (People v Belton, 55 NY2d 49, 52-53 [emphasis added].)
It is conceded that there was no probable cause for the defendant’s arrest. Indeed, as the majority notes it is at best questionable whether there was reasonable cause for the stop and frisk. In any case, even if there had been probable cause to arrest the defendant, as Belton (supra) makes clear there would have been no basis for a search of the bag left within the car under the search incident to arrest exception to the warrant requirement because the closed bag was not within the defendant’s immediate reach. A fortiori, where as here there was at best a basis for a stop and frisk there was no possible safety rationale for the search which was conducted. Surely, it is not possible that an officer may incident to a stop and frisk conduct a more extensive search of the suspect and his surroundings than would be permitted in this State incident to a lawful arrest. That is, however, what the majority now holds. In so doing it severs the law of search and seizure from its underlying rationale and invites completely unwarranted and uncontrollable extensions of the "stop and frisk” doctrine.
*44Accordingly, the judgment of the Supreme Court, New York County (Jay Gold, J.), rendered September 3, 1986, convicting defendant of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree (Penal Law § 265.02 [4]), and sentencing him to probation for five years should be reversed, the motion to suppress granted and the indictment dismissed.