Dissenting Opinion by
Mr. Justice Musmanno:Every railroad that enters into a town, passing over streets and other thoroughfares, brings with it an instrumentality capable of killing and injuring human beings and of doing irreparable damage to property. Acknowledging the supreme necessity of railroads in our civilization and the incalculable benefits they confer upon the inhabitants of our Commonwealth and nation, it is yet apparent that massive locomotives with long appendages of heavy metal cars can wreak great havoc at highway intersections unless adequate warning is given to the travelling public to stay off the crossings over which the steel tornado is about to pass.
On the night of October 18, 1948, a giant Diesel locomotive hauling 112 cars smashed an automobile in its path at Bridge Street in Tarentum and killed three occupants and critically injured the fourth. As tragic as was this collision, the surviving passenger and the families of the three deceased men may not recover against the railroad company if the driver of the car, heedless of bells, warning horns and headlights, took the automobile on to the track and in front of the speeding train which, of course, had no way of swerving to avoid the collision. On the other hand, if the *352operators of the train, fully aware of the lethal potentialities of their rolling juggernaut, failed to give due warning to driver and passengers in the automobile at the crossing, their employer, the railroad company, is responsible for snuffing out three lives and visiting crippling injuries on another.
Did the train crew sound the necessary alarm? That was the issue, the whole issue, in this case. A reading of the record reveals an excellently conducted trial, with extremely able courtroom veterans representing the respective sides. The issue — simple and uncomplicated — was presented to the jury under proper instructions of the learned trial judge, and an intelligent verdict was returned.
Why is that verdict being disturbed?
A plaintiff witness, Burton Eugene Kunkel, a sergeant in the United States Air Force, testified that he was present at the locale of the accident when it occurred. His testimony was clear, direct and unequivocating. On the way to his home on Sixth Avenue, which flanked the railroad tracks on the northern side, and while travelling parallel to the tracks, Sergeant Kunkel noticed an automobile approaching the Bridge Street crossing from the south side. Beaching a point about 3 or 4 car lengths beyond Bridge Street still on his OAvn side of the tracks, he observed the headlight of a locomotive advancing toward the crossing. He looked back to see what fate might befall the automobile at the crossing: “Q. Well, you were enough concerned about it that you looked back? A.- Yes. Q. To see what might happen? A.’ Yes.' Q. You Avere afraid' something ' might happen'; at that point? A. Yes.”'- ;' '• "• ' •" "'
'' While in this state of sensitive ál’ertnéss hé hofe'd' that’ the 'oñcómíng-'tráifl "did not ring a bell- or', -blow - a whistle, or hound' the' -usual horn 'now' carried ofi Diesel *353locomotives. Endowed with an excellent hearing, (attested to shortly thereafter by passing the rigid hearing test applied in the United States Air Force,) there was nothing to impede Kunkel in normal sound receptivity. Living on the street fronting the railroad tracks, he was aware of the type of horn used on Diesel engines: “Q. From where yon live fronting on this railroad track, were yon familiar with the sounds of these horns on the Diesel type locomotive? A. Yes, I was. Q. Will you tell ns whether, when yon are in your house with the windows and doors closed, you can hear those horns? A. Yes, you can. Q. Clearly? A. Yes, yon can hear them pretty clearly. Q. And you had lived there many years before this accident. I think you are a Sergeant in the Air Force? A. Yes, sir.”
Sergeant Kunkel was a conservative witness, obviously conscientious and refusing to guess or speculate on matters of which he was not immediately and acutely aware. His sincerity was apparent. His testimony was not challenged on any ground. He had no personal interest in the outcome of the case, he did not know any of the persons in the fatal automobile. Home on furlough from the Korean theatre of war, he was subpoenaed and he testified to what he knew. The jury was convinced by his testimony that the railroad train on that night of October 18, 1948, stole upon the crossing without rendering the warnings required by the law of the highway and accordingly rendered a verdict in favor of the three children who were orphaned through the death of their father, Basil B. Marciniak.
Why is that verdict being disturbed?
The deféndañt company’s counsel' argued in the court below and before this Court that Kunkel’s testimony was negative, and, being negative, it was to be. disregarded.- According .to. this argument, ho oné can *354ever recover as the result of a crossing accident where the point of negligence involved is whether a warning signal was sounded. Elastic as is the English language, there is no way of stating that one did not hear a supposed noise except to say he did not hear it. And if it is established that a person’s hearing is normal and he was in an attentive and physical position to catch audible signals, the only conclusion possible from a statement that he did not hear such signals is that the signals were not given.
The majority opinion discusses so-called negative and so-called positive testimony, and I regret that it did not once and for all terminate the antiquated and metaphysically absurd differentiation between these two alleged different types of evidence. The simplest analysis will demonstrate that there is, in verity, no such thing as negative testimony. There can, of course, be a negative reply to a definite question, but the answer, regardless of its nature, is still assertive and therefore positive. If I declare,' after listening to a concert by the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra that it did not in my presence play Beethoven’s Eroica Symphony, why is my testimony to be regarded as negative as against Mr. X who says that the orchestra did play such a number? In a contest of this character, there will be an issue, of course, between Mr. X and myself as to musical knowledge, normality of hearing, reliability of memory, and general credibility but it cannot be said with any semblance of logic or reason that Mr. X’s testimony is.'positive.and mine negative;.
: .Evidence .may- be .vágu.e,v.self--contradictory, unintelligible, shifting^ -vacillating,-; unbelievable-; it -may be firm, definite, elear-t — but it is; never-, negative.- Of course, for- testimony to be eredible the -witness-, musf; be in--a position.-to knoyr -wb^k-is:-going; one. .-Bfit once estab]ishe4¿:.-becaus.e-; qf-his the, *355perfect condition of Ms senses, that he is qualified to ascertain what is transpiring about him, his testimony is always positive. Thus, the testimony of a witness ten miles away from a railroad track to the effect that he did not hear a signal is not negative testimony; it is simply worthless testimony. But to designate testimony (no matter what it says) coming from a witness who is so close to the tracks that he feels the wind of the passing train in his face, as negative, is to ridicule law and bring the processes of justice into contempt.
The majority opinion asserts that there are two classes of cases on the subject under discussion. The time has come to have only one — the right one. It does not comport with sound judgment, and much less with justice, to say that an injured person may or may not recover in a given lawsuit, depending upon whether a witness’s testimony is to be considered as negative or positive, and that depending, in turn, upon which line of cases the adjudicating court decides to follow.
Dean Vigmore in his monumental treatise on the law of evidence demonstrates that an answer denying the existence of any certain alleged phenomenon is just as positive as one which asserts its existence: “It [the so-called negative testimony] rests on the same data of the senses. II may even sometimes be stronger than affirmative impressions. The only requirement is that the witness should have been so situated that in the ordinary course of events he would have heard or seen the fact had it occurred. This sort of testimony is constantly received, — -particularly in proof of the failure to give railroad signals . . . Nevertheless, from some source not traceable, there lingers in the judicial mind, in many quarters, an antiquated notion that negative impressions are not so probative as affirmative impressions; and a charge to the jury *356often embodies that notion, where witnesses differ. The truth is that the conditions affecting correctness and fullness of observation are so numerous and varied that the one under consideration has a negligible or minor status. Modern psychology sneers at the law’s crude assumption that the complexities of human perception can be handled by some rules of thumb about negative testimony or the like . . . The rule is a discredit to the sciences of law, and should he discarded (Wigmore on Evidence, 3rd ed., vol. 2, sec. 664.)*
The Supreme Court of Virginia has apparently adopted this rational view of testimony which asserts the non-happening of a controverted assertion: “Where a witness testifies that he did not hear a particular sound at a particular time and place, if the evidence shows that he had a good opportunity to hear it, and that the circumstances were such that it is probable that he would have heard it, if it had occurred, or that his attention was in some way drawn to the matter controverted, his testimony is positive, rather than negative, or what may be called quasi-positive testimony.” (Virginian Ry. Co. v. Haley, 157 S.E. 776 at 783.)
United States District Court Judge Amidan also appraises realities with common-sense directness, instead of with academic chimera when he says: “In following out this distinction [between so-called negative and so-called positive testimony] courts have sometimes overlooked the fundamental fact that in such a case the plaintiff is necessarily confined to negative evidence. If such evidence is unworthy of belief simply because it is negative, then the plaintiff must nearly always fail. The fact which he has to prove is negative, viz., that the bell was not rung or the whistle *357sounded; and the only way that fact can be established is to bring witnesses who were so situated that they would have heard the signals if they had been given, and who testify that they did not hear them.” (Chicago, R. I. & P. Ry. Co. v. Stepp et al., 164 Fed. 785.)
Our own Court has spoken very clearly on this type of testimony. In the case of Kindt v. Reading Co., 352 Pa. 419, Chief Justice Maxey with judicious discernment said: “The fact that a witness of keen hearing, under circumstances favorable to hearing a locomotive whistle, ‘heard no whistle’ may have more probative value than the statement of a witness that ‘no whistle was blown’ if it develops that the latter’s hearing was impaired or that he was mentally preoccupied at the time or that the circumstances in which he was placed were unfavorable to his hearing a whistle. The probative value of a truthful witness’ statement as to what he saw or heard depends on its factual background and on his sensory powers and the accuracy of his memory. Judging the credibility of a witness mid the weight of his testimony is preeminently a fury’s function. Of course, when the testimony offered does not even if credited meet the burden resting upon a plaintiff, it is the trial judge’s duty to so declare. If in the instant case the jury accepted at its face value the testimony that no whistle was blown or bell rung, plaintiffs burden on that phase of the case was met.”
In Knepp v. B. & O. R.R., 262 Pa. 421, 425, Justice Simpson of this Court observed: “It is said by defendant, however, that the evidence of defendant is both positive and overwhelming that plaintiff did not stop, look and listen, whereas plaintiff’s evidence is both negative and weak. It must be admitted that the weight of the evidence is with the defendant, but that was a matter for the jury, or for the court below on the motion for a new trial, and not for this court on *358appeal. We cannot say that plaintiff’s evidence must be treated as purely negative. She testified, and tbe jury found, tbat she stopped, looked and listened, and did not see or bear tbe approaching train. Her attention was directed to tbe matter, and hence her testimony is not merely negative in character; and however strong the contrary evidence was, the matter was necessarily one for the jury to decide. . . .”
The Superior Court in the case of Taylor v. Reading Co., 149 Pa. Superior Ct. 171, 173, speaking through Judge Hirt, declared: “Plaintiff testified that after be left the stop sign be was ‘watching and listening all the time’ but saw and heard nothing. He was in position both to see whatever was visible and to bear, and bis testimony cannot be regarded as negative merely; it was positive in quality and sufficiently definite to take the case out of the negative testimony rule applicable to railroad crossing accidents . . . The statement of a witness, though negative in form, may he positive proof of the non-existence of a thing or of an occurrence.”
In all these cases the determination of the issue as to whether signals were sounded or not was left to the jury. Why should it be different in this case? Having these well-considered and wise precedents to guide us, standing out as they do like bell buoys, excellently marking the course of sound judgment, why must we drift out into the confusing and churning-sea of doubt, uncertainty and decision-by-chance?
The majority opinion falls, I believe, into serious and dangerous error when it says that from a qualitative viewpoint the testimony of those who testify that warning signals were sounded is of a superior type to testimony that no signals were beard. May not those who said they beard be in error as much as those who testify they did not bear? Have we been judges for so *359short a time that we are not familiar with the type of witness who confuses a background of routine with a specific happening? The witness who always hears a locomotive whistle day after day can honestly err in recollection when asked if he heard it on a specific occasion. At any rate, it is in the laboratory of the jury room that these experiences are studied, and it is the jury that separates fact from assumption, reality from imagination, honesty from dishonesty.
For a trial judge to instruct that the jury must give more relative weight to so-called positive testimony as against so-called negative testimony is to run directly counter to the decisions in the Kindt, Knepp, and Taylor cases just referred to. Does the majority intend to repudiate and overrule the principles in those cases? If not, why tie an additional knot in the already tangled skein of some 50 decisions enumerated in the majority opinion?
In properly refusing judgment n.o.v., the Court, in the majority opinion, speaks of Witness Kunkel’s testimony as follows: . . it would seem almost incredible, in view of the position where he [Kunkel] was, that he should not have heard the ringing of the engine bell and the continued and repeated blasts of the horn if those warnings were given. His truthfulness and his perceptive faculties were for the consideration of the jury.” If this be trae, and of course, it is true, why is it necessary to have another trial? If KunkePs truthfulness and his perceptive faculties were questions for the consideration of the jury, and the jury lias appraised those qualities and faculties, why must the plaintiff run the gamut, the expense, and worry of another trial?
When the jury passed on the reliability of KunkePs testimony they passed also on the reliability of the defendant’s witnesses, and a reading of the record does *360not reveal the latter to be so free of self-interest, contradictions and improbabilities, as to make their testimony impeccable.
The defendant did not set out to impeach Kunkel’s testimony because it was impossible to do so. Defendant’s counsel only argued that Kunkel may not have heard the audible signals because he was concentrated on his driving. But it is just when one is riding alone and concerned with driving properly and safely that one is alert to signals of all kinds.
What is there in the evidence presented by the defendant company to overcome Kunkel’s straightforward, unblemished account of the accident? Kunkel had no financial or other interest in the outcome of the trial. The train crew, on the other hand, were partisans seeking vindication. Both the engineer and fireman testified that audible signals were sounded before the train arrived at the crossing, but the jury had the right to discount the reliability of that testimony. Failure to blow a horn or ring a bell constituted a violation of the rules and regulations of the railroad company. Human nature being what it is, it is scarcely to be expected that the engineer would have said that he failed to give the audible signals required. Such an admission would have visited upon him certain demerits or penalties. The fireman was the engineer’s brother. The jury undoubtedly considered that element of close kinship also in appraising credibility. ■
Furthermore, the testimony of engine crewmen is not infallible, nor is it conclusive. Without casting any reflection generally on train crews, we know they are but human and are capable of those little slips— lapses of memory, neglect of signals, temporary drowsiness — which end up with twisted, overturned, and mangled cars coming to rest in ravines, rivers and *361against stone walls, all with concomitant appalling and heart-rending loss of life.
It is because of these recognized human fallacies in the most determined of railroad men that Judge Keller of the Pennsylvania Superior Court, sagaciously said in Peruzzi v. Penna. R. R. Co., 99 Pa. Superior Ct. 519, 522: “We do not understand that the Supreme Court has ruled that the testimony of the railroad engineer and fireman that a whistle was blown or bell rung is conclusive in all cases. If it were so ruled, we know of few or none of the cases where a plaintiff was allowed to recover judgment against a railroad company, because of a collision at a public crossing, which could be sustained; for in practically all of them the train-men so testified
That the testimony of the engineer and fireman in this case must be taken cum grano salis is strikingly revealed by the fact that the fireman testified that the short warning blasts began when the locomotive was only 40 feet away from the automobile, whereas the engineer testified that he started the short blasts when he saw the automobile 400 feet distant.
Henry Gr. Xlundertmark testified that the automobile stopped at a point 7 feet away from the track and then, although the locomotive’s headlight was burning, the bell ringing and the locomotive horn blowing, and the train only 40 feet away, the automobile nonetheless proceeded directly forward into the path of the train. In the absence of evidence that the driver and passengers were drunk or insane, why would they voluntarily move into the jaws of death when by simply remaining stationary they would be safe? The automobile at no time moved faster than 10 miles per hour, which certainly allowed for maximum deliberation and caution.
*362The whole point at issue in this case, as already stated, is whether the locomotive blasted its warning horn or rang its bell before arriving at the crossing. Why is it then, that in making up his report of the accident at the time of the accident the engineer did not indicate that the driver of the fatal automobile ignored his warning blasts? In fact, in his report the engineer did not say that he had sounded any warning at all. Question No. 26 of the report form asked for “Detail of cause, nature and circumstances of accident.” As against this request for details of the accident he only said: “Moving west on No. 2 track at first crossing east of Tarentum, Pa., station Bridge Street. Hit auto on crossing killing the four above men.” Nothing about blowing of horn, nothing about ringing of bell, nothing about automobile moving out on to the crossing in the path of his oncoming locomotive.
August Dalidonis, brakeman on the train, testified that he heard the whistle, but did not hear the bell, although, according to the engineer and fireman, both whistle and bell were operating.
Although the majority correctly denied judgment n.o.v. in this case, it decided that the verdict was against the weight of the evidence. If it is a matter of numbers, certainly the defendant railroad company presented more witnesses than the plaintiff, but it is too elemental even to spend more than a line on it, that lawsuits are not decided by a mere counting of noses. One witness at home plate in a ball game can be more depended on for accuracy than the statements of ten witnesses in the bleachers as to whether a runner was tagged out or not.
Setting aside the testimony of the engineer, fireman and brakeman, all obviously interested, Sergeant Kunkel is the only one of all the witnesses in the case *363who was actually present and saw the locomotive before the accident. The others were all behind walls and the more impenetrable barriers of domestic privacy, sleep and other nocturnal isolations. While hearing is not dependent upon vision, it is again elemental that the two senses — sight and hearing — combined can more accurately distinguish the truth than hearing alone.
I have studied the record, page for page, and I fail to see that the testimony of the five non-railroad witnesses is of such an overwhelming character in credibility, verisimilitude and reliability that, categorically and summarily, an appellate court, which did not see them, can say that the jury which did see all the witnesses, was wrong. Again we are dealing with human beings, not scientific recording machines.
Abraham J. Sparks, one of the defendant’s witnesses, testified that he was awakened from his sleep by the whistle or horn of the locomotive, but his wife “slept straight through.” Sparks stated that he was “groggy” when awakened. Testifying to a state of affairs which he admits he appraised in a stage of grogginess, (and it all happened in a matter of seconds) is Sparks’ testimony so superior in quality that it effaces the testimony of Sergeant Kunkel who was there on the banks of the railroad tracks watching the locomotive as it bore down on the doomed motorists at the crossing?
Sparks’ wife gave a statement to the railroad representative in which she said: “I had not heard the train whistle or approaching before the accident.” But more significant than this item is the fact that the husband' wrote under his wife’s statement the following: “I have read my wife’s statement and the same is true :and correct and constitutes my knowledge of the above accident,” and he then signed the *364statement. In an effort to explain this flagrant contradiction in his testimony, Sparks said: “Well, I am sort of contradicting myself there, but at the time when you make that out you don’t figure that you are going to be before the attorney that is going to find any loopholes in there.” Certainly this kind of flippant exhibition on the witness stand did not help Sparks’ credibility before the jury. Under cross-examination Sparks was asked whether, when he traversed the Bridge Street crossing himself, he listened for the whistle of the locomotive. His reply did not strengthen his already damaged credibility before the jury: “I can look up and see the lights but I can’t tell you whether I heard the whistle.”
Mrs. Joanna Markey, who lived four houses away from the crossing, testified that she heard the whistle “blasting several times, and then I heard it stop. Well, when it stopped I figured it had a good, reason to stop and then I looked out the window.” She did not hear the crash. Under direct examination by defendant’s counsel she emphasized the loudness of the Diesel horn: “It blows loud. One thing, you can hear a Diesel. Wo matter where it is you can hear it blow. It blows loud enough.” Yet she testified that her husband did not hear the horn because he was sleeping.
Lawrence Silliman testified that he heard the “whistle and the crash,” and. in his eagerness to emphasize the noise of the Diesel horns he said that he heard them blowing “at all hours of the night.” Encouraged by his own obvious exaggerations he went' on to say: “Q. Do you ■ hear: them at • all' hours- of the night? A: I do. Positively, yes;. Q..--Every time-a.-Diesel- passes it wakes you- up? - .A; That is- right..- Q: You don’t get much sleep then.?: . A. I-.-don’t..-Some nights' you don’t, get very much :at all: Q:. Ever: .think .of moving out of ..there.? : A, ..Huh:! Q;:H.uh! :A. Yon. get uséd *365to it. Q. You haven’t gotten used to it. You wake up every time a whistle blows. A. I do. I ain’t joking. They blow all the time there. Q. And you are awake all the time? A. The majority of the time ail the time. Some nights I don’t get hardly any sleep.” I do not believe that if I were a juror I would be much impressed with such flamboyant utterances in a solemn court of law dedicated to the ascertainment of truth and the rendition of justice. And it is apparent that the members of the jury in this case were not much impressed with Lawrence Silliman either.
This witness’s wife, Mrs. Hilda M. Silliman, was an equally eager -witness. As soon as defendant’s counsel asked her: “Do you remember something of the accident involved in this law suit?” She replied: “Well, I should, because I heard the whistle and I heard the crash.” In cross-examination she sought to emphasize her testimony by saying that she heard everything because she was a light sleeper. But her reliability as a witness is to be noted in the following portion of her testimony: “Q. You sleep light? A. I sleep light, yes, because I can hear anything disturbing in the house. Q. Let me ask you, there was nothing disturbing in the house this night? A. No, but my throat — just like yesterday I could hardly come in here with it. It just comes and goes and this night it was worse than ever. There is some nights when it is damp and hazy S can sleep like a log and other nights, why, it is just the opposite. Q. You can sleep like a log; is that what you said? A. I never sleep like a log. Q. I thought you said that. A. No, I did not.”
Of course, if is possible for a jury to be deceived as any tribunal can be imposed upon but when a witness, in the space of ten seconds says she can sleep like a log and not sleep like a log, a jury will not, or should not be, criticized for disregarding all the testimony of that witness.
*366The fifth of these non-railroad witnesses (Edward V. Cieslinsky) who won commendation in the majority opinion testified that he was np late at night feeding his 2% months baby and was then smoking a cigarette, that he heard the sound of the horn and then heard a “bunching noise of some sort — could have been caused by the application of the brakes.” That the horn may have been sounded just before or simultaneously with the impact is, of course, possible but unless it was sounded in sufficient time before the train arrived at the crossing to allow travellers to stay off or get off the crossing, the warning would be completely useless. Even so, the reliability of Cieslinsky’s testimony is observable from the following. In cross-examination he Avas asked if he had told “the police or the railroad people or part of the creAv” whether he had observed anything “important connected with the accident.” To this question he replied with a categorical, “No, sir,” and emphasized that he was sure of this. However, it later developed that his name appeared on the engineer’s report as one who had discussed the accident. Confronted with this contradiction of his own Avords he then admitted that he had talked to a member of the train creAv and had talked to the police.
This, then, is the battered train of evidence on which the defendant company moves to a new trial over the tracks of an assumed superiority of the defendant’s witnesses.
I cannot help but dissent.
Italics throughout, mine.