The muniments upon which rest complainant’s- rights in. respect, of the timber, the cutting of which by the respondent is sought- to- be enjoined in this case, purport a. grant, bargain, sale and conveyance of the coal, iron ore and oilier1 minerals in certain described lands and also of the timber and water upon the same necessary to the mining and marketing of ihe minerals; the language of the several deeds in this connection being as follows: “the parties-of the first part have granted, bargained and sold, and do hereby grant, bargain, sell and convey to the party of the second part all the coal, iron ore and other minerals in, under and upon the following described lands * * *, and also all the timber and water upon the lands necessary for the development, working and mining of said coal, iron ore and other minerals and the'preparation of the same for market, and the removal of the same.” It is contended for respondent that these deeds are inoperative to convey the timber on the lands- or any part thereof because of uncertainty in the description of the same; the terms used not importing a conveyance of all the timber on certain lands, nor of all timber of a certain species thereon, nor all of certain -dimensions, nor of any defined timber at all, but only of such timber, or such paid of the timber on the. land as may at some future time be of necessary use to the specified ends. This position, confined to the precise terms in which we have stated it, lis unquestionably well taketp. -Clearly the deeds do not describe or define what timber is intended to be¡ dealt with. It may be all the timber, or it. may be only a -comparatively small part of it, depending upon whether all or only a. part shall be necessary for mining and marketing the minerals- in the land. How much timber will be necessary is conjectural and uncertain; *408and that, being the- only consideration upon which it can ever be determined what' timber is within the terms of the instrument, and that being itself wholly uncertain, there is no predicate for the operation of the maxim id ccrtum est quocl cerbum reddi potest. A description in a deed uncertain on its face cannot be rendered certain by a reference therein to- an extraneous uncertainly. These deeds are not helped by their reference to such timber as may be necessary to the mining and marketing of the minerals since that is itself wholly uncertain. As conveyances of title to the timber — as present transfers of this corporeal — therefore they are inoperative and void. — Stakely v. Butler. Hobart, 168; Fletcher v. Livingston, 153 Mass. 388; Pfistner v. Bird, 43 Mich. 14; Moss v. Meshew, 8 Bush (Ky.) 187.
But it by no means follows that these deeds are wholly inoperative and Amid in tolo in respect to timber on the- lands described. To the contrary, it is quite clear that, while the instruments in terms import- a present conveyance of such timber as- may be necessary to certain ends, the intention of the grantors was to grant a right to use timbers off the lands for those specified purposes, the mining and marketing of the minerals found, thereon and therein; and we may, therefore, give to these muniments that operation, not only because it is not inconsistent with the language employed, and they cannot operate as conveyances of title to the timber because of the uncertainty of description to which avc haA'e adverted, but also and further because the intent that they should so operate is affirmatively evinced by the terms in which they are couched. So interpreted and construed — as' grants of rights'of user and not as conveyances of timber — they are not- bad for uncertainty. The thing granted is the right to use the timber from certain lands for certain specified purposes, and Avhile the amount and character and time of user of the timber are uncertain, there can be no mistake or uncertainty as to the right intended to be and in fact granted. In this respect the instruments stand upon the same footing as a grant of estovers, a grant to take gravel, and the like.
*409Such a grant passes nothing palpable, nothing corporeal. It vests in the grantee an incorporeal hereditament. It is not in itself an easement, which in strictness is a mere use of the land of another without taking anything from it, but it involves the easement of going apon the land of the grantor to take the necessary timber. It is a profit á prendre in the grantee in respect of the land of the grantor — a mere right to take the product of the grantor’s land. And, when, as under the grants being considered, it is coupled with a conveyan.ee of title to some interest in the land of the grantor — as here, the minerals in, under, or upon the same. — it is a profit a prendre appurtenant to the interest conveyed and is in the nature of an easement appurtenant. — Clark v. Way, 11 Rich. (S. C. L.) 621; 19 Am. & Eng. Ency. Law, pp. 259 et seq.; 10 Am. & Eng. Ency. Law, pp. 398-403, 409; Washburn’s Easements fe Servitudes, pp. 8, 9, 565.
The profits a- prendre, under the grants now before us a.re limited in at least two important particular’s : First, there is a limitation as to the time, or, perhaps more accurately, the occasion of the' taking and use of the timber upon the several tracts, of land. The grantee cannot take it when and as it pleases, but it can only be taken and -used in the mining and marketing of the minerals in the lands — to tire end of getting out the coal, iron ore and other minerals in each tract, preparing it for market and transporting it to market. Until the grantee goes upon a given tract and inaugurates mining operations he has no right to take or use any timber off that particular tract. So when he has ceased to get out the minerals therein, he must also cease to take timber therefrom: FTis right to take and use timber, in other words, its concomitant with his mining operations, may not be exercised till such operations are begun and continues only so long as they are prosecuted. Second, the further limitation is as to the amount or quantity of timber the grantee may'take in his mining operations, and this is express, covering and granting1 n,o more than shall be found to be necessary to the mining and marketing of the minerals. When the complainant, its successors or assigns, will enter *410upon the work of getting out the minerals, from any one of the parcels of land referred to in the bill, and, hence, when the time for the exercise of its right to take timber will arrive, are matters of great uncertainty, if not purely conjectural. These minerals have been there untouched for thousands of years. Doubtless during the ages of their existence many crops, so to speak, of timber have grown to maturity or to the stage of mining-utility,. and given place, naturally or through fortuitous causes, to; succeeding crops. What, has been in this connection may recur and be repeated ad infinitum. It is shown by the bill that years have elapsed since the mineral interests in iliese lands were severed from the surface interests for mining purposes, and that the minerals have- not yet been touched. May not many more years elapse? Who can say? The complainant does not undertake, and in the nature of things cannot undertake, to say with certainty when it will inaugurate its mining operations upon these lands. 'The effort made by the bill in this connection comes to no more than averment of a. probability that mines- will be opened on some of the lands within two years, and generally that they will probably be reached within a few years, and even this is qualified by averments1 as to the- inadaptability of timber of a succeeding growth to the purposes in view. Taking the case presented by the bill, it is conservative to say the time within which the complainant can and will exercise its right to take; timber from any of these tracts of land is fairly uncertain, and conjectural. And when that- time comes, how much of the timber then on the lands will be necessary for mining and marketing the minerals thetrein? Nobody knows. Nobody pretends to know. It is said in the bill that substantially all the timber now on the land will be so necessary. But the timbers there now may not he at all necessary years lienee when the lands- are mined. At best the averment is a palpable conclusion upon considerations confessedly uncertain, for the impossibility of determining beforehand how much timber will be requisite to getting out. and marketing the minerals is set- up in the case as demonstrating the inadequacy of *411any remedy the complainant might have at law sounding, in damages, for the destruction of the timber. So that the rights granted by these deeds to cut and use the timber of the grantors are rights essentially uncertain both as to the time Of their exercise and as to the amount of timber to be eventually taken. Meantime wliat are the rights of the 'otcners of all the timber on these lands? They have the title to all this timber. ■They also have the title to all this land excepting the minerals therein. The surface is theirs to do- Avith AArhat-they will, subject to easements necessary to mining and marketing the minerals. The lands are noAv and were when these conveyances were made in timber. Have the owner?' any right to use their property? If so, what are the limitations upon- that right? May they devote it to the uses of husbandly and agriculture? May they reclaim it for homes and dAvelling places? May they make any use AAdiatever of their estates in the lands, or does the mere existence of the right, in complainant, to take, at some indefinite time in the future some indefinite amount of timber from these lands entitle the complainant to invoke the poAvers of chancery to deprive them of all use in and of their property, until it shall suit the convenience of the grantee to take out of the lands every ton of coal and of iron, ore and of other minerals that may he in them ? HaAre they in rela’tv conveyed for an indefinite period of time all right, title and interest in the lands and all that, is in them or under them or upon them absolutely to the complainant by these muniments bv which they intended to convey and in which in terms they have conveyed only the minerals and these ■profits a- prendre in respect of the timber? We cannot see onr way to such a conclusion. But to such conclusion Ave must come before we can sustain the equity of this bill, which- prays that these grantors be enjoined from taking any timber from any of these tracts of land until complainant shall have exploited theim for minerals and taken from them AArhateArer minerals they hear or contain. We are of the contrary opinion. The grantors have the title, technical a,nd beneficial, to all interests in these lands, including the timber upon them, except the minerals and easements necessary to *412getting out the. minerals. That which passed by the grants as to the timber was not title, but a mere right to take and use timber on the land when the grantee conies to' realize, its 'estate, by taking out the minerals. Until that time and occasion for the use by the grantee of the timber transpires the grantors in these instruments may work their own will in respect of the timber. They may clear it off to the end of devoting the land to agriculture. Or, to this or other end, they may sell and convey the timber to third persons, as these grantors appear to have done. There is no middle ground. The grantors must meantime have the absolute and unlimited right to use and dispose of the timber or they must he without right whatever in respect of it, and hence practically without right to use thh surface of the lands. The hardship to the grantors of adopting the latter view is recognized by counsel for appellee: “That it may he a hardship',” they'say, “upon the owner of the surface to have this timber, tied up> until the coal is mined, results from his voluntary.grant, and he cannot complain. If he had desired to protect himself against such a contingency, he should have done this in his deed.” Of course, hardships in the operations of grants cannot control their terms; hut where it is a question as to what the parties intended should be the operation of a grant, and the terms employed do not foreclose this question, hardships incident to an interpretation favorable to one of the parties may be looked to in determining what the real intention was; and such consideration in this case brakes for a construction of these grants which will leave to the grantors the unfettered use of the surface and timber except such of the surface and the timber then upon it as may he found necessary to the mining and marketing of the minerals when such necessity actually arises. To so- hold requires no warping of the terms of these conveyances, but is in line with the language. employed and the intention of the parties? fairly deducible therefrom apart from consideration of the manifest hardships of the con: struction contended for; a,n.d such consideration is in fact cumulative upon the language itself. The grant *413is without limitation as to- the time when timber on the land may be! taken and nsed by the grantee for the purposes specified, and on. the other hand it involves no covenant that there shall be timber upon the lands when the grantee comes to open and operate the mines. It gives the use of'timber that may be there and necessary in the operations as they progress. It is much the same case as where A demises his farm to B for a. term to begin years in the future. This demise involves a grant of estovers during this future term of B; but it would hardly be contended that; B could, upon the execution of such lease, enjoin A to take timber from the land upon the theory that such timber would probably be necessary to supply estovers during his leasehold to commence ten or twenty years in the future. No more in the case at bar can it be maintained that the grantors have in substance and effect covenanted and bound themselves to conserve the profits d prendre they have granted, uncertain as to the time and extent, as we have indicated, by maintaining timber plantations upon their land for the: benefit of the grantee and thus devoting the land itself, indefinitely as to time, as fully to the uses of the grantee as if all interests in it had been conveyed. They have not thus tied up their lands nor the timber upon them by these instruments which they have voluntarily executed and' which the grantee has accepted, paying the considerations. No such purpose on their part can be deduced from the circumstances or from the writings, but quite the contrary. If the grantee in these, several -deeds had desireld to secure to' itself the timber on the land from and after the dates of these transactions, it should have purchased it and taken muniments covering’ it and carrying title to or the! right to use all of it.
The bill of complaint, we conclude, is without equity. The chancellor erred in overruling the motion of the respondent. to dissolve the injunction for want of equity in the bill and in overruling the motion to dismiss the bill for want, of equity. The decree will be reversed, and a decree will be here entered granting both said motions, dissolving the injunction and dismissing the bill.
Reversed and rendered.