Plaintiff’s sheep were loaded October 15, 1914, at Bitter Creek, Wyoming, for shipment to South Omaha, Nebraska, over defendant’s railroad. On the morning of that day it was discovered by the United States Bureau of Animal Industry that other sheep which had been loaded at the same station a few days before were infected with scabies, and as the same yards and pens had been used in loading the infected sheep and plaintiff’s sheep, it was considered that the latter had been exposed to the disease, and the Bureau required that they be dipped before going forward. .When notice of this order was received at Bitter Creek, part, if. not all, the sheep were in the cars, and as there were no facilities for dipping sheep at that place, permission was obtained to move them to Laramie, an intermediate station on their route, where they were unloaded and dipped under governmental supervision. This caused a delay of several days, after which they were reloaded and carried to their destination. The object of the suit was to recover the damage resulting from the dipping of the sheep and the delay in transportation. Counsel do not agree in their construction of that part of the petition which sets forth the defendant’s negligence; and for the purposes of this decision we shall accept the interpretation of counsel for plaintiff, and assume that the petition charges that defendant was negligent both in failing to keep its loading yards and *506pens free from contagion, and in receiving plaintiff! ’s sheep in the yards and pens after knowledge of such contagion.
As a second defense it was alleged thát the plaintiff failed to comply with a provision contained in the shipping contract, which read as follows:
“Unless claims for loss, damage or detention are presented within ten days from the date of the unloading of said stock at destination, and before said stock has been mingled with other stock, such claims shall be deemed to be waived and the carriers and each thereof shall be discharged from liability. ’ ’
The trial was to a jury, and the verdict for plaintiff. Defendant brings error.
It will be necessary to consider only one allegation of error, namely, the refusal to direct a verdict for defendant upon the issue raised by the second defense.
This was an interstate shipment and in determining the effect of the foregoing stipulation upon the liability of the defendant, we must follow the law as declared by the Federal Courts. All state laws, regulations and policies with reference to the validity of such contracts were superceded when Congress, by the Carmack amendment of June 29, 1906 (34 Stat. at L. 584, c. 3591) to the Hepburn Act of February 4, 1887 (24 Stat. at L. 379, c. 104), manifested its purpose to take full control of the subject of interstate commerce. (Adams Express Co. v. Croninger, 226 U. S. 491, 44 L. R. A. (N. S.) 257; Missouri, K. & T. R. Co. v. Harriman, 227 U. S. 657; St. Louis, I. M. & S. R. Co. v. Starbird, 243 U. S. 592; 61 L. Ed. 917.)
By the eases which arose as did this, before the passage of the Act of March 4, 1915 (38 Stat. at L. 1196, c. 176), it has been settled that a stipulation of a bill of lading requiring notice or the making of a claim within a limited time after the arrival or delivery of the freight at the destination is reasonable, and that it should be given the effect that appears from its terms to have been intended. (Baltimore & O. R. Co. v. Leach, 249 U. S. 217, 39 Sup. Ct. 254; *507Southern P. R. Co. v. Stewart, 248 U. S. 446, 63 L. Ed. 350; St. Louis, I. M. & S. R. Co. v. Starbird, supra; Chesapeake & O. R. Co. v. McLaughlin, 242 U. S. 142, 61 L. Ed. 207; Northern P. R. Co. v. Wall, 241 U. S. 87, 36 Sup. Ct. 493; Hudson v. Chicago, St. P. M. & O. R. Co., 226 Fed. 38; Clegg v. St. Louis & S. F. R. Co., 203 Fed. 971, 122 C. C. A. 273; Baldwin v. Chicago, R. I. & P. R. Co., 173 Ia. 524, 156 N. W. 17; Chicago, I. & L. R. Co. v. Blankenship, (Ind.) 127 N E. 209; Chicago, R I. & P. R. Co. v. Gray, (Okla.) 165 Pac. 157; Bailey v. Missouri P. R. Co., (Mo. App.) 171 S. W. 44.) In Kidwell v. Oregon S. L. R. Co., 208 Fed. 1, 125 C. C. A. 13, and Smith Meat Co. v. Oregon R. & N. Co., 59 Ore. 206, 117 Pac. 303, the stipulations upheld as reasonable were identical with that in the case at bar, and in some of the other eases, supra, they were more exacting.
Though no question of waiver is presented by the record or argued by counsel, it is worthy of note, as illustrative of the view of the courts with reference to the importance of compliance with such stipulations, that the requirement of notice may not be waived or dispensed with by the carrier. (Georgia F. & A. R. Co. v. Blish, 241 U. S. 190, 36 Sup. Ct. 541, 60 L. Ed. 948; Phillips v. Grand Trunk W. R. Co., 236 U. S. 662, 35 Sup. Ct. 444, 59 L. Ed. 774; Fletcher v. New York C. & H. R. R. Co., (Mass.) 229 Mass 258, 118 N. E. 294; Hines v. Mason, 144 Ark. 11, (Ark.) 221 S. W. 861; Abell v. Atchison, T. & S. F. R. Co., 100 Kans. 238, 164 Pac. 269; L. R. A. 1918 E. 782.)
With the foregoing propositions well established, and indeed, not questioned, the issue-presented by the second defense was, simply, whether or not the plaintiff had presented his claim for damage within the time fixed by the stipulation.
The secretary of the plaintiff company testified that after the sheep arrived at Laramie, but before they were dipped, he had there several conversations with two agents of the defendant; that the purpose of the conversations on his part was to induce the defendant “to release” the *508sbeep, he insisting that they did not need dipping, and should be continued on their journey; that in the course of those conversations he stated that if the sheep were dipped “there would be considerable shrinkage * * * and that we (plaintiff) would hold the company (defendant) re-' sponsible for it — .would look to them (defendant) for damages.” Unless these statements constituted, a presentation of the claim for damages within the meaning of the shipping contract, there was no such claim presented in time, and defendant’s request for a directed verdict in its favor should have been granted on this ground.
What would be considered a presentation' of a claim cannot, we think, be determined by any definite rule that would be applicable to every case that might arise. Tn George, F. & A. R. Co. v. Blish, supra, it is said that the stipulation “is addressed to a practical exigency and it is to be construed in a practical way; ’ ’ and that a substantial compliance therewith on the part of the shipper is all that is required. The purpose of the stipulation is to allow the carrier an opportunity to investigate the claim and either settle it or prepare for its contest. All the particulars need not be stated in the claim, and, assuming that it is presented in time and in the form required, it is sufficient if it give the carrier reasonable notice of the character of the demand which it is required to settle or contest. This is a fair statement of the rule which we gather from the Blish case, upon which plaintiff relies.
But in the case at bar there was no reasonable notice within that rule of the character of the claim. The statements at Laramie by plaintiff’s secretary to defendant’s agents were made before plaintiff had sustained any except, possibly, nominal damages, and hence before he had any substantial claim; he could not and did not apprise the defendant of the extent or amount of plaintiff’s damages, and did not direct the defendant’s attention to any act of negligence, by which he claimed the plaintiff had been injured. In making those statements, as appears *509from the record now, and, doubtless, as appeared to defendant’s agents at the time, it was not intended to make or present a claim, and it would be unreasonable to say that the defendant should then have taken and accepted as a claim statements which were apparently made for another purpose. There are no facts disclosed which rendered it impracticable or even difficult for the plaintiff to have presented his claim within proper time, after the cause and extent and amount of it became known to him.
Kidwell v. Oregon S. L. R. Co., supra, is in point. The facts were similar to those in the ease at bar, .except that there the complaints of the shipper were made after his damages had been sustained, and gave some information as to the negligence which was the cause of his injury. It was held that there could be no recovery for the reason that a claim had not been presented, and, among other things, the court said:
“If, on arrival of live stock at destination, the shipper who, as in this case, accompanies them finds that they have been injured by the negligence of the carrier, it is a reasonable provision of the shipping contract that he give notice to the carrier of the extent, nature,' and amount of his claim for damages, and that this shall be done before the stock are mingled with other stock in order that the carrier may have the opportunity to make timely investigation and protect itself against fictitious or imaginary claims. It is no compliance with such a provision to remark to a freight agent of the carrier along the line of the route that the shipper is going to put in a claim for damages. Nor is it a compliance to inform the agent at the place of destination that there will be a .claim against the company for damages. To impart the information that a claim will be presented is not to present ‘a claim for loss, damage, or detention.’ It does not inform the carrier of the nature, extent, amount, or cause of damage. It gives no definite statement of facts upon which an investí-*510gation may be had, or which shows that an investigation is required.”
It is suggested that this decision is inconsistent with the later decision of the Supreme Court in the Blish case. The particular point of disagreement is not specified, and we have not discovered any, unless it be that by the language which we have quoted from the former ease too great emphasis is placed upon the fact that the shipper spoke in the future tense, saying that he “was going to put in a claim” etc., while in the latter ease no consideration is given to a like defect in the wording of a telegram by which the claim was made.
In a case where the shipper has an existing claim which he presents to the carrier by a notice or demand sufficiently definite to impart information of the character of the claim, the fact that he uses the words “I will claim,” instead of “I do claim,” may well be regarded as a technical and not substantial defect, especially where the claim is fully, and promptly investigated by the carrier, as in the Blish case and in E. H. Emery Co. v. Wabash Ry. Co., 183 Ia. 687, 166 N. W. 600. The Kidwell ease did not present, any such state of facts, and we think the main ground for the decision was that the complaints of damage and notices of an intention to file a claim were too indefinite, in substance, to meet the object and purpose of the requirement of the bill of lading, as the carrier was not thereby informed of the nature, extent,.amount or cause of damage. The same thought might have been expressed by saying, in the language of the Blish case, that the carrier was not informed of the “character of the claim.” We think, therefore, there is no conflict in the fundamentals of the two decisions. Certainly, in the instant case, we are not tempted to place any importance upon the mere fact that the claim was spoken of in the future tense, for the use of any other tense with reference to a claim which existed only in anticipation would have, been absurd.
*511Olson v. Chicago, B. & Q. R. Co., 250 Fed. 372, 162 C. C. A. 442 is the only case that has come to onr attention in which the shipper relied npon a notice given before the damage was sustained, and there, eventhough the carrier investigated the claim, it was held that the notice was insufficient. In Blair etc. Co. v. St. Joseph & G. I. R. Co., (Mo. App.) 180 S. W. 412, it was contended that the plaintiff had given notice only that he would, in the future, present a claim; hut it was held, without stating the facts, that the evidence showed notice of “a present claim,” which had been investigated by defendant.
We have examined many state decisions which have followed the rule of the Blish case; some which have, perhaps, gone a step beyond the holding in that case, and some which appear to be flatly in conflict with that and other Federal cases which have held that the requirement of notice may not be waived. Without citing those cases, we may remark that we do not find that the rules of the Federal courts have been disregarded or relaxed in any case except where it was proved that the carrier’s attention was called to the nature and extent of the damage, and an examination duly made, or that there were other similar circumstances from which it appeared that the carrier had had every advantage intended to be secured to it by the stipulation requiring notice of the claim. The instant case presents none of those features, and, in fact, discloses no circumstance from which it may be inferred either that the ■stipulation was complied with, or that such compliance would have been superfluous.
It follows that the defendant was entitled to an instructed verdict. The judgment is reversed and the case remanded with direction that judgment be entered for defendant.
Reversed.
Potter, G. J., and Blume, J., concur.