People v. Sanchez

Filed 12/5/11

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF CALIFORNIA

THE PEOPLE, )
)
Plaintiff and Respondent, )
) S188453
v. )
) Ct.App. 5 F057147
LUIS OSCAR SANCHEZ, )
) Tulare County
Defendant and Appellant. ) Super. Ct. No. PCF204260A,
) VCF166696A,
) and VCF180279

In this case we consider under what circumstances a trial court is obligated
to conduct a hearing on whether to discharge counsel and appoint new counsel
when a criminal defendant indicates a desire to withdraw a guilty or no contest
plea on the ground that current counsel has provided ineffective assistance. (See
People v. Marsden (1970) 2 Cal.3d 118 (Marsden).) We conclude a trial court
must conduct such a Marsden hearing only when there is at least some clear
indication by the defendant, either personally or through counsel, that defendant
wants a substitute attorney. We additionally hold that, if a defendant requests
substitute counsel and makes a showing during a Marsden hearing that the right to
counsel has been substantially impaired, substitute counsel must be appointed as
attorney of record for all purposes. In so holding, we specifically disapprove of
the procedure of appointing substitute or “conflict” counsel solely to evaluate a
defendant‟s complaint that his attorney acted incompetently with respect to advice
regarding the entry of a guilty or no contest plea.

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 I. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
On May 10, 2008,1 Lindsay police officers responded to a house to
investigate a 911 hang-up call and were told by defendant Luis Oscar Sanchez that
he had dialed 911 accidentally. The officers searched the house to ensure that no
one there needed assistance. Detecting a strong odor of marijuana in one room,
the officers looked in that room‟s closet and discovered four marijuana plants
growing inside.2 Defendant was arrested and charged with cultivation of
marijuana (Health & Saf. Code, § 11358), in case No. PCF204260A. The
complaint in that case also alleged that defendant came within the “Two Strikes”
law as a result of a prior attempted first degree murder. (Pen. Code, §§ 459,
1170.12, subds. (a)-(d), 667, subds. (b)-(i).)
On October 28, defendant appeared in the trial court represented by Deputy
Public Defender Nathan Leedy. Pursuant to a plea bargain that promised him a
stipulated term of “32 months in state prison,” defendant pleaded guilty to
cultivation of marijuana, and admitted having suffered a prior conviction and
having violated probation in two other cases. Before entering his plea, defendant
told the trial court that he had given his attorney all the information he had about
his case, he was advised of his possible defenses, and that he was satisfied with his
attorney‟s advice. Leedy informed the trial court he had thoroughly discussed
with defendant his rights, defenses and possible consequences of his plea, and that,
in Leedy‟s judgment, defendant understood his rights. Leedy added that, while he
personally did not agree with defendant‟s decision to change his plea to guilty, he

1 All subsequent dates refer to the year 2008 unless otherwise noted.
2 The statement of facts is taken from the probation report filed in case No.
PCF204260A. The facts underlying defendant‟s two other cases are not relevant
to the issue before us.

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agreed with everything defendant and the court had stated on the record regarding
the required advisements.
On December 2, the initial date set for sentencing, Deputy Public Defender
Tony Dell‟Anno told the trial court that defendant “wishe[d] to have the Public
Defender explore having his plea withdrawn.” The trial court then asked, “Is this
something that you can do or do I need to appoint conflict counsel?” Dell‟Anno
responded by saying it was his understanding that “conflict counsel cannot be
appointed until a Marsden[] [hearing is] held where the Court would find that [the
public defender‟s office] did not give competent advice before [declaring a]
conflict.” Dell‟Anno then stated his belief that “at this point [the public defender‟s
office] need[s] to check out any issues for possible withdrawal ourselves.” The
court agreed to give Dell‟Anno a week “to let me know whether or not conflict
counsel needs to be appointed . . . or [whether] you need to file a motion on his
behalf as his representative.”
At the December 9 hearing, a different public defender, Kimberly Barnett,
appeared and indicated that defendant was present and that conflict counsel
needed to be appointed. The trial court responded, “We had discussed you were
looking into conflict [counsel] needing to be appointed if you wanted to do a
motion to withdraw his plea. Your assessment is that it‟s necessary, so what I am
going to do is . . . appoint conflict counsel for the sole purpose of looking into the
motion to withdraw his plea.”
After defendant waived time for his sentencing to give the newly appointed
attorney time to explore why defendant wanted to withdraw his plea, the trial court
set December 30 for a hearing on the motion. The court then told defendant, “In
the interim I have appointed conflict counsel and they will contact you. When
they contact you, you give them all the reasons why you think you should be able
to withdraw your plea. They will give you some advice about that.”

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 On December 30, defendant appeared in the trial court with both Wes
Hamilton, the private attorney appointed to look into the motion to withdraw
defendant‟s plea, and Deputy Public Defender Leedy. Hamilton told the court that
defendant “wants a trial on his case,” that he is “adamant he wants to withdraw his
plea but I don‟t [find] a legal basis” for him to do so. Next, speaking directly to
Deputy Public Defender Leedy, the court said, “All right, [defendant] is on for
sentencing so it goes back to you representing him.” The trial court then
continued the matter for sentencing at Leedy‟s request.
At the January 2, 2009 sentencing hearing, Deputy Public Defender Leedy
appeared with defendant. When asked by the trial court whether there is “any
legal cause why sentencing cannot take place,” Leedy told the court that defendant
“is still in the position that he would like to withdraw his plea,” but added, “I
understand he‟s had conflict counsel appointed to evaluate that.” In response, the
court noted that Attorney Hamilton did “an evaluation” and did not find “any basis
or grounds for plea withdrawal.” The trial court then sentenced defendant to the
agreed-upon term of 32 months.
The Court of Appeal held “the trial court‟s duty to conduct a Marsden
hearing was triggered by defense counsel‟s request for appointment of substitute
counsel to investigate the filing of a motion to withdraw [the] plea on
[defendant‟s] behalf” based on “alleged incompetence of counsel.” It also
concluded the trial court erred “by appointing substitute counsel without a proper
showing and by reappointing the public defender‟s office to represent [defendant]
after substitute counsel announced his conclusion that there was no basis for filing
a motion to withdraw [the] plea on [defendant‟s] behalf.” The Court of Appeal
emphasized that “[t]he proper procedure does not include the appointment of
„conflict‟ or „substitute‟ counsel to investigate or evaluate the defendant‟s
proposed new trial or plea withdrawal motion.” It reversed the judgment and

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remanded the matter with directions concerning how the trial court should conduct
a hearing on defendant‟s Marsden motion concerning his representation by the
public defender‟s office.
We granted the Attorney General‟s petition for review.
II. DISCUSSION
In California, the “seminal case regarding the appointment of substitute
counsel is Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d 118, which gave birth to the term of art, a
„Marsden motion.‟ ” (People v. Smith (1993) 6 Cal.4th 684, 690 (Smith).)
In Marsden, the defendant contended he was “deprived of his constitutional
right to the effective assistance of counsel because the trial court denied his
motion to substitute new counsel without giving him an opportunity to state the
reasons for his request.” (Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 120.) The defendant told
the trial court he did not believe he was “ „getting adequately represented or
competently represented‟ ” during his jury trial, and he expressed his belief that
the “ „court‟s transcript prior to this meeting here can reveal that fact.‟ ” (Id. at p.
121.) Accordingly, the defendant asked to make a motion for substitution of “
„proper counsel.‟ ” (Ibid.) In evaluating the motion to substitute counsel, the trial
court refused the defendant‟s request to “ „bring up some specific instances‟ ” of
ineffective assistance. (Id. at p. 122.)
We recognized that “criminal defendants are entitled under the Constitution
to the assistance of court-appointed counsel if they are unable to employ private
counsel.” (Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 123, citing Gideon v. Wainwright
(1963) 372 U.S. 335.) We explained that “the decision whether to permit a
defendant to discharge his appointed counsel and substitute another attorney
during the trial is within the discretion of the trial court,” that “a defendant has no
absolute right to more than one appointed attorney,” and that a trial court is not
bound to accede to a request for substitute counsel unless the defendant makes a

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“ „ “sufficient showing . . . that the right to the assistance of counsel would be
substantially impaired” ‟ ” if the original attorney continued to represent the
defendant. (Marsden, at p. 123.)
In holding the defendant was denied a fair trial because he was not given
the opportunity to tell the trial judge the reasons underlying his belief that his
appointed attorney was providing ineffective assistance of counsel, we noted that
“although defendant was represented by counsel, he was groping for the proper
manner in which to demonstrate the alleged lack of competence of his attorney,”
and that the judge was only being called upon “to listen to defendant‟s reasons for
requesting different counsel.” (Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 126.)
In Marsden, we held it was error to deny the defendant the opportunity to
explain the basis for his claim because a trial court that “denies a motion for
substitution of attorneys solely on the basis of [its] courtroom observations,
despite a defendant‟s offer to relate specific instances of misconduct, abuses the
exercise of [its] discretion to determine the competency of the attorney.”
(Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 124.) We found the error prejudicial in Marsden
because, in that case, we could not “conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that this
denial of the effective assistance of counsel did not contribute to the defendant‟s
conviction.” (Id. at p. 126.)
In People v. Lucky (1988) 45 Cal.3d 259 (Lucky), the defendant contended
the trial court erred by continuing trial proceedings “without giving him the
opportunity to state the specific reasons for his „conflict‟ with appointed counsel.
Specifically he contend[ed] that when appointed counsel . . . informed the court
that defendant was considering the idea of retaining private counsel in lieu of [his
appointed counsel], the court had a duty under . . . Marsden . . . to give defendant
an opportunity to state fully the grounds for his dissatisfaction with appointed
counsel.” (Id. at p. 280.) We held “a trial court‟s duty to permit a defendant to

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state his reasons for dissatisfaction with his attorney arises when the defendant in
some manner moves to discharge his current counsel.” (Id. at p. 281, italics
added.) By footnote, we explained that “[w]e do not necessarily require a proper
and formal legal motion, but at least some clear indication by defendant that he
wants a substitute attorney.” (Ibid., fn. 8.) In Lucky, we found nothing in the
record that revealed such an indication by the defendant. (Id. at p. 283.)
In Smith, supra, 6 Cal.4th 684, this court held that when a defendant
requests substitute counsel, “the standard expressed in Marsden and its progeny
applies equally preconviction and postconviction. . . . A defendant has no greater
right to substitute counsel at the later stage than the earlier.” (Id. at p. 694.) We
explained: “It is the very nature of a Marsden motion, at whatever stage it is
made, that the trial court must determine whether counsel has been providing
competent representation. Whenever the motion is made, the inquiry is forward-
looking in the sense that counsel would be substituted in order to provide effective
assistance in the future. But the decision must always be based on what has
happened in the past. The further one is in the process, the more counsel has done
in the past that can be challenged, but that is a difference of degree, not kind.” (Id.
at pp. 694-695.)
In Smith, we noted that “[a]ppointment of counsel for the purpose of
arguing that previous counsel was incompetent, without an adequate showing by
defendant, can have undesirable consequences.” (Smith, supra, 6 Cal.4th at p.
695, italics added.) As an example of such undesirable consequences, we cited
People v. Makabali (1993) 14 Cal.App.4th 847. We noted that, in Makabali, the
“the trial court appointed second counsel to investigate a possible motion to
withdraw a guilty plea on the basis of ineffective assistance of counsel. New
counsel did not make the motion. On appeal, appointed appellate counsel, i.e., the
third attorney, claimed (unsuccessfully) that the second was incompetent for not

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claiming the first was incompetent.” (Smith, at p. 695.) Thereafter, the original
attorney in Makabali, who was “apparently not relieved of further representation
of the defendant[,] . . . represented the defendant at sentencing, after the second
attorney did not move to withdraw the plea.” (Smith, at p. 695.) In Smith, we
criticized the appointment of a “series of attorneys . . . at public expense whose
sole job, or at least a major portion of whose job, is to claim the previous attorney
was, or previous attorneys were, incompetent” and found no “authority supporting
the appointment of simultaneous and independent, but potentially rival, attorneys
to represent defendant.” (Ibid.)
We concluded that “[w]hen a Marsden motion is granted, new counsel is
substituted for all purposes in place of the original attorney, who is then relieved
of further representation. If the Marsden motion is denied, at whatever stage of
the proceeding, the defendant is not entitled to another attorney who would act in
effect as a watchdog over the first. [¶] We stress, therefore, that the trial court
should appoint substitute counsel when a proper showing has been made at any
stage. . . . [W]hen a defendant satisfies the trial court that adequate grounds exist,
substitute counsel should be appointed. Substitute counsel could then investigate a
possible motion to withdraw the plea or a motion for new trial based upon alleged
ineffective assistance of counsel. Whether, after such appointment, any particular
motion should actually be made will, of course, be determined by the new
attorney.” (Smith, supra, 6 Cal.4th at pp. 695-696.)
In Smith, we noted that “it is difficult for counsel to argue his or her own
incompetence” (Smith, supra, 6 Cal.4th at p. 694), but we neither suggested it is
impossible for counsel to do so nor that a trial court should presume a defendant is
requesting substitute counsel without at least some indication that he or she wants
to be represented by counsel other than the current appointed attorney.

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 Instead, our holding was that “substitute counsel should be appointed
when . . . necessary under the Marsden standard, that is whenever, in the exercise
of its discretion, the court finds that the defendant has shown that a failure to
replace the appointed attorney would substantially impair the right to assistance of
counsel (People v. Webster [(1991)] 54 Cal.3d [411,] 435), or, stated slightly
differently, if the record shows that the first appointed attorney is not providing
adequate representation or that the defendant and the attorney have become
embroiled in such an irreconcilable conflict that ineffective representation is likely
to result (People v. Crandell [(1988)] 46 Cal.3d [833,] 854).” (Smith, supra, 6
Cal.4th at p. 696.)
As the Court of Appeal in the present case appropriately noted, “[d]efense
counsel, like the trial courts, should abandon their reliance on counsel specially
appointed to do the trial court‟s job of evaluating the defendant‟s assertions of
incompetence of counsel and deciding the defendant‟s new trial or plea
withdrawal motion. (See [People v.] Eastman [(2007)] 146 Cal.App.4th [668,]
697 [„the court cannot abandon its own constitutional and statutory obligations to
make the ultimate determination itself based upon the relevant facts and law of
which the court is made aware by some legally sanctioned procedure‟].)” The
Court of Appeal aptly concluded that “[t]he proper procedure does not include the
appointment of „conflict‟ or „substitute‟ counsel to investigate or evaluate the
defendant‟s proposed new trial or plea withdrawal motion.”
We conclude that a trial court is obligated to conduct a Marsden hearing on
whether to discharge counsel for all purposes and appoint new counsel when a
criminal defendant indicates after conviction a desire to withdraw his plea on the
ground that his current counsel provided ineffective assistance only when there is
“at least some clear indication by defendant,” either personally or through his
current counsel, that defendant “wants a substitute attorney.” (Lucky, supra, 45

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Cal.3d at p. 281, fn. 8.) We additionally hold that, at any time during criminal
proceedings, if a defendant requests substitute counsel, the trial court is obligated,
pursuant to our holding in Marsden, to give the defendant an opportunity to state
any grounds for dissatisfaction with the current appointed attorney. (Marsden,
supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 126.)3 In turn, if the defendant makes a showing during a
Marsden hearing that his right to counsel has been “substantially impaired”
(Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 123), substitute counsel must be appointed as
attorney of record for all purposes. (Smith, supra, 6 Cal.4th at pp. 695-696.) In so
holding, we specifically disapprove of the procedure adopted by the trial court in
this case, namely, the appointment of a substitute or “conflict” attorney solely to
evaluate whether a criminal defendant has a legal ground on which to move to
withdraw the plea on the basis of the current counsel‟s incompetence.
The People cite People v. Dickey (2005) 35 Cal.4th 884 (Dickey), in
support of their claim that a trial court may, in its discretion, “appoint additional,
special counsel for the limited purpose of exploring the prospect of moving to set
aside the conviction on a theory the conviction resulted from ineffective assistance
of counsel,” and that “[i]f special counsel makes no motion, or if a motion is made

3 The Court of Appeal therefore correctly concluded that “the trial court‟s
duty to conduct a Marsden hearing was triggered by defense counsel‟s request for
appointment of substitute counsel to investigate the filing of a motion to withdraw
[the] plea on Sanchez‟s behalf.” However, the Fifth District Court of Appeal, in
the present case and in its earlier cases, People v. Eastman (2007) 146 Cal.App.4th
688, People v. Mejia (2008) 159 Cal.App.4th 1081, and People v. Mendez (2008)
161 Cal.App.4th 1362, incorrectly implied that a Marsden motion can be triggered
with something less than a clear indication by a defendant, either personally or
through current counsel, that the defendant “wants a substitute attorney.” (Lucky,
supra, 45 Cal.3d at p. 281, fn. 8.) Nonetheless, we shall affirm the judgment of
the Court of Appeal because we agree with its disposition of defendant Sanchez‟s
case.

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but denied, special counsel‟s duties end, and proceedings continue with defendant
represented by original counsel.” Dickey does not stand for that proposition.
In Dickey, the defendant contended that “following the guilt phase of the
trial, he sought to make a motion for the appointment of different counsel to assist
him in the penalty phase, and the court, without conducting the hearing required
by Marsden, prejudicially erred by declining to rule on his motion until the penalty
phase was concluded.” (Dickey, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 918.)
This court concluded the defendant in Dickey mischaracterized his trial
motion as a motion for substitute counsel during the penalty phase. We agreed
with the Attorney General that the defendant instead had moved “for the
appointment of separate counsel for the purposes of preparing a motion for a new
trial based on, among other grounds, incompetence of counsel during the guilt
phase.” (Dickey, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 918.) The trial court explained to the
defendant that a motion for new trial is appropriate before sentencing, and, at the
completion of the penalty phase, the court did appoint separate counsel to assist
the defendant in the preparation of a motion for new trial. That motion was filed,
and it was based in part on the ground that the defendant‟s trial counsel was
ineffective during the guilt phase and that the trial court had erred by failing to
conduct a Marsden hearing following the guilt phase. (Id. at p. 920.) In denying
the motion, the trial court clarified that it was aware a Marsden motion may be
made and heard “ „at any stage of the proceedings,‟ ” but then held “ „there was no
reason to have a Marsden hearing at the time. It was not asked for.‟ ” (Ibid.)
In concluding the trial court did not commit Marsden error, we reiterated
that “ „ “[a]lthough no formal motion is necessary, there must be „at least some
clear indication by defendant that he wants a substitute attorney.‟ ” [Citations.]‟
[Citation.]” (Dickey, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 920.) In Dickey, the defendant “did
not clearly indicate he wanted substitute counsel appointed for the penalty phase.

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To the extent he made his wishes known, he wanted to use counsel‟s assertedly
incompetent performance in the guilt phase as one of the bases of a motion for
new trial, and he wanted to have separate counsel appointed to represent him in
the preparation of such a motion. As his expressed wishes were honored, he has
no grounds for complaint now.” (Id. at pp. 920-921.)
Dickey is distinguishable from the instant case. The defendant in Dickey
expressed the desire to have a substitute counsel represent him at a future
proceeding, namely, an anticipated motion for new trial, that would not take place
until the completion of the penalty phase. The defendant in Dickey voiced no
objection to having his current attorney represent him at the penalty phase and,
unlike the present case, did not seek to discharge his current attorney. Having
concluded that the defendant in Dickey did not make a motion for substitute
counsel to represent him in the penalty phase, we characterized the trial court‟s
references to Marsden as “confused and confusing.” (Dickey, supra, 35 Cal.4th at
p. 918.) Here, by contrast, defendant, through counsel, requested that a “conflict”
or substitute attorney be appointed immediately, and the obvious implicit ground
for that request was the incompetency of defendant‟s currently appointed counsel.
The People also rely on our recent decision in People v. Clark (2011) 52
Cal.4th 856 (Clark). In Clark, the trial court conducted several pretrial Marsden
hearings, each time listening to the defendant‟s complaints about his lead attorney
and to her responses, and then denied the motions. The trial court previously had
denied the defendant‟s request to have appointed independent counsel to assist
him in discharging his attorneys, but it then reversed itself during a midtrial
Marsden motion and agreed to appoint “independent counsel” to represent
defendant at his latest Marsden hearing. (Id. at p. 914.) We held that although we
have warned that such appointments may cause delay and may damage the
attorney-client relationship, the trial court did not abuse its discretion under the

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circumstances of that case. (Id. at p. 917.) Clark provides no guidance on the
issue presented here because the procedural context is entirely different. In Clark,
the trial court, after conducting several Marsden hearings, appointed independent
counsel to assist defendant with his Marsden motion “just to make sure every
possible point will be brought forth that legally can be brought forth.” (Ibid.) In
the present case, the trial court appointed substitute counsel to represent defendant
on a motion to withdraw his plea in lieu of conducting a Marsden hearing — in
effect, granting the defendant‟s Marsden motion without conducting the required
hearing.
In the present case, we agree with the Court of Appeal that the trial court
erred by failing to hold a hearing on defendant‟s informal Marsden motion
concerning his representation by the public defender‟s office, by appointing
substitute counsel without a sufficient showing that failure to appoint substitute
counsel would substantially impair or deny defendant‟s right to assistance of
counsel, and by appointing substitute counsel for the limited purpose of evaluating
defendant‟s reasons for wanting to withdraw his plea rather than appointing
substitute counsel for all purposes.
As noted above, we held in Marsden that it was prejudicial error to deny
the defendant the opportunity to explain the basis for his claim because a trial
court that “denies a motion for substitution of attorneys solely on the basis of [its]
courtroom observations, despite a defendant‟s offer to relate specific instances of
misconduct, abuses the exercise of [its] discretion to determine the competency of
the attorney” (Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at p. 124), and, in that case, we could not
“conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that this denial of the effective assistance of
counsel did not contribute to the defendant‟s conviction.” (Id. at p. 126.)
In the present case, the Court of Appeal reversed the judgment of the trial
court and remanded the matter to that court with the following directions: “(1)

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the court shall hold a hearing on [defendant]‟s Marsden motion concerning his
representation by the public defender‟s office; (2) if the court finds that
[defendant] has shown that a failure to replace his appointed attorney would
substantially impair his right to assistance of counsel, the court shall appoint new
counsel to represent him and shall entertain such applications as newly appointed
counsel may make; and (3) if newly appointed counsel makes no motions, any
motions made are denied, or [defendant]‟s Marsden motion is denied, the court
shall reinstate the judgment.” We believe this is the proper disposition.

III. DISPOSITION
We affirm the judgment of the Court of Appeal.

CHIN, J.

WE CONCUR:

CANTIL-SAKAUYE, C. J.
KENNARD, J.
BAXTER, J.
WERDEGAR, J.
CORRIGAN, J.
LIU, J.

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See next page for addresses and telephone numbers for counsel who argued in Supreme Court.

Name of Opinion People v. Sanchez
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Unpublished Opinion
Original Appeal
Original Proceeding
Review Granted XXX 189 Cal.App.4th 374
Rehearing Granted

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Opinion No. S188453
Date Filed: December 5, 2011
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Court: Superior
County: Tulare
Judge: Juliet L. Boccone

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Counsel:

Diane Nichols, under appointment by the Supreme Court, and Eleanor M. Kraft, under appointment by the
Court of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant.

Edmund G. Brown, Jr., and Kamala D. Harris, Attorneys General, Dane R. Gillette, Chief Assistant
Attorney General, Michael P. Farrell, Assistant Attorney General, Carlos A. Martinez, Brian G. Smiley,
David Andrew Eldridge and Jamie A. Scheidegger, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and
Respondent.
Counsel who argued in Supreme Court (not intended for publication with opinion):

Diane Nichols
P.O. box 2194
Grass Valley, CA 95945
(530) 477-8448

David Andrew Eldridge
Deputy Attorney General
1300 I Street, Suite 125
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
(916) 324-6291