A demurrer was filed to the original petition in bankruptcy herein, on the ground that the petition was indefinite and merely in the language of the statute. Under direction of the court, an amended petition was filed, to which a demurrer has been interposed, upon the ground that, “upon the face thereof, the facts alleged in the amended petition do not constitute acts of bankruptcy.” In support of the demurrer, argument has been made as to the sufficiency, as to form, of the various allegations, and of the verification. It is apparent that this ground of objection is not included within the scope of the demurrer as filed, but, the argument having been made, and answered by the attorney for the petitioning creditors, it will be considered first.
The precise language of the allegation in each instance is that:
“Your petitioners further show that the said alleged bankrupt is insolvent, and that within four months next preceding the date of the original petition herein, ⅜ * * and while insolvent, committed an act ■ of bankruptcy, in that, as your petitioners are informed and verily believe, that the said alleged bankrupt, while insolvent, * * ⅜ with intent to hinder, delay, and defraud his creditors, and with the intent and purpose of giving preference * * * upon an alleged antecedent indebtedness, * * * made a payment of money * * * with intent,” etc.
There are some 22 instances of this character alleged, and the allegation is also added that the petitioners are informed and verily believe that the said alleged bankrupt within four months next preceding the date of the filing of the petition herein “ ⅜ * * did transfer, conceal and remove part of his assets and property,” etc. The verification is as follows:
“ * * * Being duly sworn, deposes and says: That he is a member of the firm of-, one of the petitioners mentioned in and described in, and who have subscribed the foregoing petition; that the members of the said firm are * * * ; that the foregoing petition has been signed by deponent for and with the authority of said firm of petitioners, and that deponent has personal knowledge of the facts contained in the foregoing petition and makes solemn, oath that said facts are true, excepting as to those matters stated to be alleged on information and belief, and as to those matters he believes it to be true.”
Under the authority given by the bankruptcy statute, certain forms were adopted and promulgated by the Supreme Court of the United *684States upon the 38th day of November, 1898, to take effect January 3, 1899, of which the fifth form provides for a creditor’s petition in involuntary bankruptcy. The particular allegation in this form relating to the point raised here is as follows:
“And your petitioners further represent that said- is insolvent, and that within four months next preceding the date of this petition the said-committed an act of bankruptcy, in that he did heretofore, to wit, on the - day of —-
The petition is to be followed by a verification:
“United States of America, District of-. — ss.: -, —=-,-, being three of the petitioners above named, do hereby make solemn oath that the statements contained in the foregoing petition subscribed by them are true.”
It would seem from the language of the prescribed form that a petition in involuntary bankruptcy is looked upon in the same light as a complaining affidavit in the matter of a criminal charge. The language “your petitioners further represent that” is the statement of a conclusion and of an allegation which it is apparent must in all cases be made upon hearsay, information, and knowledge derived from sources other than the actual personal knowledge of the party making the petition. The language of the verification is to the effect that the petitioners swear that the statement made by them is true. This statement is that they “represent” or allege to the court the doing of certain things by the alleged bankrupt. The affiant swears that he charges certain acts against the bankrupt, and he implies that he-has verified them so as to be willing to stand by the consequences of his charge. He is not testifying as to what he has seen or done. The verification is not equivalent to an oath that the person making the verification has actual knowledge that certain acts were done because they occurred in the presence of the petitioner. The oath is not subject to the rules of competency with respect to hearsay testimony. On this account, the insertion of the words in a petition that it is made upon information and belief neither add to nor detract from the strength of the allegation, and likewise in the verification the additional statement, that the petitioners believe the matters which are stated to be alleged upon information and belief to be true, is mere surplusage, and, while the language should not be used, it is no ground for dismissing the petition. The cases cited are not, in the opinion of the court, in contradiction of this view.
As to the other objection raised, that each of the payments were small in amount and made in the ordinary course of business, and that this would indicate that the alleged bankrupt was attempting to pay his debts instead of creating a fraudulent preference, it is only necessary to say that the character of the payments, and the smallness of their amounts, certainly do seem to indicate that the bankrupt was paying his current incidental debts, as he had the opportunity and funds 'so to do. Nevertheless, if he was insolvent, and if he made each of .these respective payments with a knowledge that he could not at that time pay his other creditors whose claims were due, and with , the additional knowledge that each of these payments was in *685effect a preference, although the bankrupt actually expected to defraud no one, and hoped to pay his debts in full, the acts alleged come within the provisions of the bankruptcy statute.
The demurrer, therefore, will be overruled, and the matter will take the regular course.