United States v. Merritt G. Stansfield, Jr.

*911OPINION

COWEN, Circuit Judge.

Merritt G. Stansfield appeals from a judgment rendered after a jury trial convicting him of three counts of mail fraud in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1341, two counts of engaging in unlawful monetary transactions (money laundering) in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1957, one count of tampering with a witness in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C), and one count of criminal forfeiture pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 982. He was sentenced to, inter alia, incarceration for a term of 306 months.

Stansfield contends that his conviction on two of the three mail fraud counts, the two money laundering counts, and the criminal forfeiture count must be reversed and remanded for a new trial by reason of irregularities occurring during jury deliberations. He also argues that the conviction on witness tampering must be vacated and remanded with instructions to enter a judgment of acquittal on that count due to insufficient evidence. Alternatively, he argues that the judgment of conviction on that count must be reversed and remanded for a new trial on the ground that the jury was not properly instructed. Finally, he contends the district court erred in several respects in applying the federal sentencing guidelines.

We will affirm the judgment of conviction on all counts except the witness tampering count. As to that count, we will reverse and remand for a new trial. In light of this disposition, we need not reach Stansfield’s argument that his sentence was contrary to the guidelines.

I.

A.

We take the facts with regard to the counts upon which Stansfield was convicted in the light most favorable to the government, the verdict winner. In 1990 Stans-field’s home was destroyed by fire. Erie Insurance Company agreed to reimburse Stansfield for the replacement cost of the insured items, as well as the cost from the loss of the use of his house. In May of 1992, Stansfield sent Erie a list of insured items he claimed were lost in the fire. Some of these were later found intact at other locations. By reason of the loss, Erie sent Stansfield checks totalling approximately $225,000. Stansfield used some of these funds to purchase a boat and trailer.

Erie and state law enforcement officials began an investigation of the fire in 1992. Although they determined that arson caused the fire, Stansfield was never conclusively found to be the arsonist. Investigators from Erie and Pennsylvania State Police spoke with Dwight Hoffman, a friend of Stans-field’s, several times in 1992 and early 1993. Hoffman was quite knowledgeable about Stansfield’s home and its contents; he had stored many of Stansfield’s personal effects in his home prior to the fire.

Hoffman’s wife Dee was also a friend of Stansfield’s. When Hoffman and Dee ended their relationship in August of 1992, Stans-field and Dee became romantically involved. Some evidence suggests that Dee Hoffman was complicit in Stansfield’s scheme.

State troopers also communicated with-Jack Love, whom Stansfield had solicited to burn his home. Stansfield threatened to kill Love if he told anyone of the solicitation. Love informed Stansfield in May of 1993 that law enforcement officials had contacted him about the fire.

That September, Erie referred the matter to federal postal inspectors. The Postal Inspector presented the ease to the United States Attorney’s Office, which requested that the Postal Inspection Service continue the investigation.

The witness tampering charge stems from an incident that occurred on October 7,1993. On that date Stansfield entered Dwight Hoffman’s home uninvited. Hoffman’s parents, Eugene and Joyce, were present but Dwight Hoffman was not. When asked what he was doing there, Stansfield replied that he was “sick and tired of [Dwight] running down [Stansfield’s] name and ruining [his] business.” App. at 43. Stansfield- struck the Hoffmans, knocking them to the ground. He repeatedly kicked Eugene Hoffman in the head and body. When Eugene Hoffman attempted to get up, Stansfield knocked him *912down again, kicking him in the head until Hoffman was partially unconscious. Stans-field took both the Hoffmans to the basement, where he bound their hands and feet. When Eugene Hoffman tried to. free himself, Stansfield kicked him in the head several more times.

Stansfield then went upstairs, returning shortly with a shotgun and shells. He donned latex gloves, tinted “shooting” glasses, and ear protectors that are worn on shooting ranges. He loaded the gun and waited for Dwight Hoffman to arrive. When Dwight Hoffman appeared, Stansfield took him to the basement, hit him with the butt of the shotgun, and ordered him to sit next to his parents. Stansfield then placed the shotgun on the throat of Dwight Hoffman and stated, “I’m going to ask you some questions, and I want the truth, because the gun is loaded, the safety is off, and my finger is on the trigger, is that clear?” App. at 78.

Stansfield first inquired why Dwight Hoffman had “sen[t] the cops after [him] about [his] house,” or why Dwight had “called the police about his fire.” App. at 54, 79. At some point Dwight Hoffman lunged for the gun. It went off, firing a shot between Dwight Hoffman’s neck and Joyce Hoffman’s head. A struggle ensued. Eventually Dwight and Eugene Hoffman were able to subdue Stansfield until a police officer arrived.

B.

Stansfield was indicted on a twelve count indictment. Counts I through IV charged mail fraud. Count V charged using fire to commit mail fraud. Counts VI through X charged money laundering. Count XI, stemming from the incident on October 7, 1993, charged tampering with a witness. Count XII was criminal forfeiture predicated on the money laundering counts.

The instructions given to the jury on Count XI are one focus of this appeal, and so we recite them at length:

The grand jury charged, with respect to count 11, that on or about October 7, 1993, in the Middle District of Pennsylvania, the defendant, Merritt G. Stansfield, Jr., did assault and attempt to kill one Dwight E. Hoffman with the intent to prevent Hoffman’s communication of information relating to Stansfield’s commission of federal offenses ... to a law enforcement officer, this being in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512(a)(1)(C).
The relevant statute on this subject is Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512, and provides as follows: Whoever knowingly uses intimidation or physical force, with intent to hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a federal offense shall be guilty of a crime.
The statute is designed to protect persons who may be called to testify or give evidence in a federal proceeding, either civil or criminal, and persons who have information about federal crimes. The integrity of the federal system of justice depends upon the cooperation of such potential witnesses. If persons with information do not come forward, produce evidence and appear when summoned, the criminal justice system will be significantly impaired. This statute was devised to make it unlawful for anyone to tamper with such a witness in the manner described by the statute.
In order to prove the defendant guilty of the charge in the indictment, the government must prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt: First, that on or about the date charged, the defendant used intimidation, physical force, or threats, or attempted to do so; and second, that the defendant acted knowingly and with intent to prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a federal offense.

App. at 103-05. The district court then elaborated on both of these elements and added: “The law does not require that a federal proceeding be pending at the time or even that it was about to be initiated when the intimidation, physical force or threats were made.” App. at 106. Stansfield took no *913objection to these portions of the jury charge.

The jury returned a partial verdict convicting Stansfield on Counts I, II, III, VI, VII, and XI. As the jury was polled, juror number two was excused from the jury box because she was not feeling well. She eventually returned and, in the presence of the other jurors, indicated her concurrence in the guilty verdicts. During a subsequent recess, jurors number one, two, and nine communicated to the deputy clerk that they wished to speak with the court. They did not indicate the reasons for wanting to do so. After consulting with counsel, the court declined to hear from the jurors at that time.

The jury was brought into the courtroom and directed to deliberate on Count XII, which had not previously been submitted to it. A mistrial was subsequently declared as to Counts IV, V, VIII, IX, and X. The government later dismissed those counts subject to reinstatement should any portion of the conviction be vacated. Immediately after the jury returned to the jury room to commence deliberations on Count XII, jurors number one, four, and nine abruptly left the jury room and refused to return.1 The three apparently were crying and were “emotionally distraught.” App. at 143. They stated that “they had reasons for [initially] voting the way they did” and had been told they were “stupid.” App. at 143. At this point, Stansfield waived his right to a jury trial with regard to Count XII and the jury was discharged. The district court found Stans-field guilty on Count XII.

The district court thereafter met with the three jurors, first as a group and later individually. All three were women who had previously asked to speak with the district court. All three stated they had been pressured into concurring with the guilty verdicts by the jury foreman who, along with other jurors,2 had used gender-based insults to intimidate them. The jurors stated as an example that they were called “stupid female[s]” and were told that they “didn’t have minds” because they are women. App. at 169, 156. One of the jurors stated that a fourth juror, who had not felt well-during the jury poll, also had been affected by these gender-based insults. All three indicated that, but for the pressure that the other jurors exerted on them, they would have voted for acquittal on Counts II, VI, and VII. Juror number one related that she also would have voted for acquittal on Count I.

Stansfield moved to vacate the convictions on those four counts. The court denied the motion. ' The district court sentenced Stans-field to, inter alia, 306 months incarceration. The sentence was to run concurrently with a 7 1/2 to 15 year sentence imposed in the Court of Common Pleas of Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, stemming from the October 7, 1993, incident. This appeal followed.

II.

A.

Stansfield contends that, based on the in camera questioning of jurors number one, four, and nine, the verdict as to Counts I, II, VI, and VII was not unanimous and the matter should be remanded for a new trial on these counts. Moreover, he contends that because the forfeiture count on which he was convicted, Count XII, was predicated on the guilty verdict on Counts VI and VII, that count should also be reversed and remanded. We hold that, pursuant to Fed. R. Evid. 606(b), consideration of the testimony of those jurors is not permitted. The judgment of conviction on those counts will be affirmed.

It is a common-law rule of ancient vintage that a jury’s verdict may not be impeached by the testimony of a juror concerning any influences on the jury’s deliberations that emanated from -within the jury room. See Tanner v. United States, 483 U.S. 107, 117, 107 S.Ct. 2739, 2745-46, 97 L.Ed.2d *91490 (1987); McDonald v. Pless, 238 U.S. 264, 268, 35 S.Ct. 783, 784, 59 L.Ed. 1300 (1915); Government of Virgin Islands v. Gereau, 523 F.2d 140, 148 n. 19 (3d Cir.1975), cert. denied, 424 U.S. 917, 96 S.Ct. 1119, 47 L.Ed.2d 323 (1976). That precept has been codified in the federal system as Fed. R. Evid. 606(b), which provides, in relevant part:

Upon an inquiry into the validity of a verdict or indictment, a juror may not testify as to any matter or statement occurring during the course of the jury’s deliberations or to the effect of anything upon that or any other juror’s mind or emotions as influencing the juror to assent to or dissent from the verdict or indictment or concerning the juror’s mental processes in connection therewith, except that a juror may testify on the question whether extraneous prejudicial information was improperly brought to the jury’s attention or whether any outside influence was improperly brought to bear upon any juror.

See also Tanner, 483 U.S. at 121, 107 S.Ct. at 2748; Gereau, 523 F.2d at 149 n. 22. Testimony concerning “intimidation or harassment of one juror by another” falls squarely within the core prohibition of the Rule. Id. at 150.

Recognizing the considerable obstacle this provision places in his path, Stansfield attempts to clear the hurdle in two ways. First, he contends that Rule 606(b) is implicated only after a jury has been discharged. Because the district court was aware of an irregularity before it discharged the jury, the argument goes, it should have waited to discharge them until it had spoken to the three jurors. Second, he argues, although Rule 606(b) bars members of a jury from impeaching is own verdict, it does not bar the use of jurors’ testimony to impeach an allegedly defective jury poll. We address these contentions in turn.

1.

There is some support for Stansfield’s argument that timing is relevant in considering the implications of Rule 606(b). In Tanner, 483 U.S. at 127, 107 S.Ct. at 2751, the Supreme Court stated, in dicta, that jurors “may report inappropriate juror behavior to the court before they render a verdict.” In Government of Virgin Islands v. Nicholas, 759 F.2d 1073, 1078 (3d Cir.1985), we wrote that “questions concerning the competency of a jury ordinarily are not entertained once the jury has rendered its verdict” (emphasis added). And in Gereau, 523 F.2d at 148, we stated that “a juror may not impeach [her] own verdict once the jury has been discharged ” (emphasis added).

Recognizing that the testimony of the three jurors here was proffered after the verdict was read into the record, after the jury was polled and indicated its unanimous consent, and after the jury was discharged, Stansfield first contends that the district court judge had a duty to meet with the three jurors as soon as they first requested to speak with him. This request occurred after the partial verdict was rendered and the jury was polled, but before it commenced deliberations on Count XII. Essentially, the contention is that the district court abused its discretion in not conferring with the three jurors when they first requested to speak with him.

It is apparent from the record, however, that at the time of the first request, the district court had no indication of the reason for the requested meeting. Moreover, even if the district court had an idea of the reasons for the requested conference, it enjoys considerable discretion in determining how to deal with allegations of juror misconduct. See United States v. Resko, 3 F.3d 684, 690 (3d Cir.1993); Government of Virgin Islands v. Dowling, 814 F.2d 134, 137 (3d Cir.1987). We cannot conclude that the district court abused its discretion in declining to meet with the three jurors when they first requested a meeting.

Stansfield further contends that, at the very least, the district court should have made inquiry immediately after the three jurors bolted from the jury room, instead of first discharging the jury. This contention would have merit only if there were a relevant distinction between receiving juror testimony to impeach a verdict before the jury is discharged and doing so after it is discharged. If such a distinction is not relevant *915then the district court could not have abused its discretion in first discharging the jury and then questioning the three jurors. Stans-field’s argument is essentially that Rule 606(b) comes into play only when the jury has been discharged and not at some earlier point in the proceedings, such as when the verdict is rendered or the jury polled.

This contention was squarely addressed and rejected by the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in United States v. Hockridge, 573 F.2d 752, 758-60 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 821, 99 S.Ct. 85, 58 L.Ed.2d 112 (1978). In Hockridge, as in this case, a partial verdict was rendered in a criminal case and the jury sent back for further deliberations on the remainder of the verdict. See id. at 756-57. During those deliberations, two jurors spoke with the district court in camera and expressed reservations about their concurrence in the partial verdicts. See id. at 757. On appeal the defendants argued that Rule 606(b) is inapplicable where a partial verdict has been rendered but the jury has not yet been discharged. See id. at 758.

The Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit rejected this argument. It reasoned that applying Rule 606(b) even before the jury has been discharged furthers two important objectives: verdict finality and enhancing the jury’s freedom of deliberation. See id. at 759. As for the first objective, the court recognized that while “finality is not sought for its own sake,” allowing a partial verdict to be impeached while deliberations ensue on the remainder of the verdict would essentially eviscerate the benefits sought to be achieved by allowing partial verdicts in the first place. Id. As for freedom of jury deliberations, the court noted that “the legislative history of Rule 606(b), while perhaps not determinative, reveals the strong congressional purpose of protecting the jury deliberation process,” and concluded that “the policy against intrusion into internal deliberations remains the same,” irrespective of whether a partial verdict or a complete verdict is at issue. Id. Thus, the court con-eluded, “where a partial verdict has been recorded, we perceive no reasons of sufficient magnitude to depart from the normal rule governing impeachment of jury verdicts.” Id. We agree.

In Gereau, 523 F.2d at 148, we identified several objectives that Rule 606(b) was designed to foster: “(1) discouraging harassment of jurors by losing parties eager to have the verdict set aside; (2) encouraging free and open discussion among jurors; (3) reducing incentives for jury tampering; (4) promoting verdict finality; [and] (5) maintaining the viability of the jury as a judicial decision-making body.” Of these goals, the first and third would be unaffected by erecting the Rule 606(b) barrier at some point prior to discharge of the jury.

As explained at length by the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in Hockridge, 573 F.2d at 759-60, employing the prohibitions of Rule 606(b) even before the jury is discharged serves to foster both the openness of jury deliberations and verdict finality.3 It also serves to further the fifth goal we identified in Gereau, which is intrinsically related to the goals of free deliberation and finality: that of maintaining the jury’s integrity as an independent decision-making body within the judicial branch of government. Thus, while only some of the objectives of Rule 606(b) are fostered by applying that Rule before jury discharge, we conclude that these considerations are sufficient to make that Rule fully applicable at that point in time.

Finally, Stansfield cites United States v. Marinari, 32 F.3d 1209, 1214 (7th Cir.1994), for the proposition that “[u]ntil the jury is actually discharged by separating or dispersing (not merely being declared discharged), the verdict remains subject to review” and thus “finality of the verdict comes upon the separation and dispersal of the jurors.” Stansfield misconstrues the case. In Mari-nari, the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit was addressing finality as it relates to *916“reeord[ation]” of a verdict within the meaning of Fed. R.Crim. P. 31(d), not as it relates to the triggering of the prohibition of Fed. R. Evtd. 606(b). Marinari did not involve an application of Rule 606(b), nor did the court have any reason to discuss the implications of that Rule. Although the court held that a jury could be recalled before actual dispersal for purposes of conducting a jury poll, it never suggested that individual members of the jury were ever competent to impeach the jury verdict. Marinari is useful only to the extent that it recognizes that formal discharge is not as crucial as actual dispersal. One cannot infer from the court’s language that Rule 606(b) is implicated only upon discharge, dispersal, or separation of the jury, as opposed to some earlier point in the proceedings.

In fact, Marinari supports our conclusion. The Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that recordation of the verdict takes place upon actual dispersal or separation of the jury only when the jury has not been polled. See id. at 1213. On the other hand, “[wjhere a poll is taken, the verdict becomes final and ‘recorded,’ when the twelfth juror’s assent to that verdict is made on the record.” Id. Here, the jury was polled and, according to Marinari, the partial verdict became final when juror number twelve concurred with the verdict on the record.

Moreover, the reasons the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit gave for establishing actual separation or dispersal as the “point of no return” for purposes of conducting a jury poll are inapposite to the issue of where that point is located for purposes of inquiry into internal influences on the jurors. The court reasoned that, before dispersal of the jury, individual jurors continue to be isolated from contact with the outside world and, therefore, their answers to a jury poll would not be tainted by external influences until dispersal. See id. at 1214. As noted above, while several of the policies underlying the prohibition embodied in Rule 606(b) assume that there will have been contact with the outside world, and therefore those policies are not implicated if the Rule were to apply before discharge, the other rationales behind Rule 606(b) apply with full force even before the jury is discharged. Marinari is fully consistent with our ruling.

We need not address definitively the point at which Fed. R. Evid. 606(b) comes into play. We hold only that its prohibition on using juror testimony to impeach the jury’s verdict applies at some point prior to the discharge of the jury. Had the district court here questioned the three jurors prior to the jury’s discharge, the jurors still would have been incompetent by virtue of Rule 606(b) to impeach the jury’s verdict. Stansfield’s contention that the district court abused its discretion by questioning the jurors only after it discharged the jury is without merit.

2.

Stansfield also seeks to avoid the Rule 606(b) hurdle by characterizing the juror’s testimony as tending to impeach the integrity of the jury poll rather than the verdict itself. Stansfield does not contend that any irregularity occurred during the polling process itself that would have alerted the court to the true nature of the problem. Although juror number two excused herself because she was not feeling well, it did not become apparent until much later that this juror’s health may have been affected by something that occurred in the jury room. Moreover, the three jurors who eventually spoke with the court in camera requested to do so only after the polling process was completed.

Stansfield’s argument at bottom is the contention that the jury poll can be attacked by subsequent juror recantation even though the verdict itself cannot. This distinction is unavailing. The jury poll is not a distinct entity that exists separate and apart from the verdict. Rather, the jury poll is a mere reflection of the verdict. To attempt to impeach the poll by reference to intimidation that the jurors claim they felt during deliberations, or that they feared they would again feel when they resumed their deliberations, is no different than attacking the verdict directly. Rule 606(b) forbids this.

Moreover, adopting Stansfield’s position would mean that no jury poll following the rendering of a partial ¡verdict would be beyond attack through the use of juror testimo*917ny, at least not until the time that a complete verdict is rendered or a partial mistrial declared. Since taking a jury poll at that time would thus become a futile gesture, juries would not be polled (and the partial verdict would not be validated) until it became certain that they would deliberate no longer. Congress could not have intended Fed. R. Evid. 606(b) to so fully diminish the beneficial effects of partial verdicts. See Hockridge, 573 F.2d at 759.

We conclude that Fed. R. Evid. 606(b) embodies a decision that the costs of making an inquiry into possible juror misbehavior in circumstances such as these' outweigh the potential benefits. Accordingly, the judgment of conviction with respect to Counts I, II, VI, VII, and XII will be affirmed.

B.

Stansfield asks us to reverse his conviction on Count XI, the tampering with a witness count, and remand with directions to enter a judgment of acquittal on that count on the grounds that the evidence was insufficient to support a conviction. Specifically, he argues that the evidence was deficient in two respects: it did not prove that he intended to hinder Dwight Hoffman’s future communication with law enforcement officials, and it did not prove that he intended to prevent Hoffman’s communications with a federal law enforcement officer. Alternatively, he contends that the jury was not properly instructed either on the “attempt to kill” element of the statute pursuant to which he was convicted or on the “federal officer” element. Accordingly, he argues, his conviction must be reversed and the matter remanded for a new trial on Count XI. We address each contention in turn.

1.

Count XI of the indictment charged that, on or about October 7, 1993, Stansfield “did assault and attempt to kill one Dwight E. Hoffman with the -intent to prevent Hoffman’s communication of information rélating to STANSFIELD’S commission of federal offenses ... to a law enforcement officer” in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C). App. at 35. Title 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C) provides, in pertinent part: “Whoever kills or attempts to kill another person, with intent to prevent the communication by any person to a law enforcement officer ... of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense” shall be imprisoned for up to twenty years.

The term “law enforcement officer” is defined as “an officer or employee of the Federal Government, or a person authorized to act for or on behalf of the Federal Government or serving the Federal Government as an adviser or consultant authorized under law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of an offense.” Id. § 1515(a)(4). However, the government need not prove that Stansfield knew or intended “that the law enforcement officer is an officer or employee of the Federal Government or a person authorized to act for or on behalf of the Federal Government.” Id. § 1512(f).

As we stated in United States v. Carr, 25 F.3d 1194, 1201 (3d Cir.) (quoting United States v. Casper, 956 F.2d 416, 421 (3d Cir.1992)), cert. denied, — U.S. -, 115 S.Ct. 341, 130 L.Ed.2d 298 (1994), we

“must sustain the verdict of a jury if there is substantial evidence, viewed in the light most favorable to the Government, to uphold the jury’s decision. In determining whether evidence is sufficient, we will not weigh evidence or determine the credibility of witnesses. Appellate reversal on the grounds of insufficient evidence should be confined to cases where the failure of the prosecution is clear. The evidence need not be inconsistent with every conclusion save that of guilt, so long as it establishes a case from which a jury could find the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.”

a.

The evidence proved that Stansfield held a shotgun- at Dwight Hoffman’s ■ throat and asked him a number of questions, including why Hoffinan had told law enforcement officials about the fire at Stansfield’s house. This evidence is sufficient for a jury to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that Stans-*918field intended to prevent Hoffman’s future communications with law enforcement officials, not merely that he intended to retaliate against Hoffman for past communications with law enforcement officials. The jury in its opinion could reasonably conclude that inherent in the action of pointing a loaded firearm at another’s throat and asking, in effect, “Why did you do it?” is the implicit message, “Don’t ever do it again.” We conclude that the evidence was sufficient to prove that Stansfield intended to foreclose future communications by Hoffman with law enforcement officials.

b.

We also find the evidence sufficed to satisfy the “federal officer” element of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(a)(1)(C) and 1515(a)(4). The parties dispute what the government has to prove in order to satisfy this requirement. Stansfield urges that the government must prove “an intent to prevent the communication of information to some particular law enforcement officer, or at least to any agent involved in a particular, actual federal investigation,” as long as that officer is federal. Appellant’s Brief at 16. The government argues that it need only prove that the offense about which the defendant wishes to prevent communications is actually a federal offense.

The ease law from our sister circuits does not support Stansfield’s view. The Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in United States v. Romero, 54 F.3d 56, 62 (2d Cir.1995), cert. denied, — U.S. -, 116 S.Ct. 1449, 134 L.Ed.2d 568 (1996) wrote: “There need not be an ongoing investigation or even any intent to investigate. Rather, the killing of an individual with the intent to frustrate the individual’s possible cooperation with federal authorities is implicated by the statute” (emphasis added). The Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in United States v. Edwards, 36 F.3d 639, 645 (7th Cir.1994), held that what is essential is that “the defendant believed that a person might furnish information to federal officials and that he killed or attempted to kill that person in order to prevent such disclosure” (second emphasis added). Accord United States v. Galvan, 949 F.2d 777, 783 (5th Cir.1991) (“[T]he statute focuses on the defendant’s intent: whether she thought she might be preventing [the witness’] future communication of information.”) (emphasis added); United States v. Leisure, 844 F.2d 1347, 1364 (8th Cir.), cert. denied, 488 U.S. 932, 109 S.Ct. 324, 102 L.Ed.2d 342 (1988) (“[I]t is only necessary for a defendant to have believed that a witness might give information to federal officials, and to have prevented this communication, to violate 18 U.S.C. § 1510.”).

This is not to say that the position of the government is without problems. Were we to require only that the government prove that the underlying offense is federal and that the defendant intended to prevent the witness from communicating with law enforcement officials in general, without also proving the defendant’s knowledge of or belief in the possibility that the witness would communicate with federal authorities, we would essentially vitiate an important facet of the intent requirement of the statute.

Accordingly, we hold that, in order to obtain a conviction pursuant to § 1512(a)(1)(C), the government must prove: (1) the defendant killed or attempted to kill a person; (2) the defendant was motivated by a desire to prevent the communication between any person and law enforcement authorities concerning the commission or possible commission of an offense; (3) that offense was actually a federal offense; and (4) the defendant believed that the person in (2) above might communicate with the federal authorities. This last element may be inferred by the jury from the fact that the offense was federal in nature, plus additional appropriate evidence. For example, it is sufficient (but not necessary) that the government prove that the defefidant had actual knowledge of the federal nature of the offense in order for the jury to infer the last element.4

*919This framework is an appropriate reconciliation between the constraint that the government must prove the defendant’s specific intent to hinder a federal investigation and the fact that, by virtue of § 1512(f), it need not prove that the defendant knew the federal status of any particular law enforcement officer involved in an investigation. Cf. United States v. Gonzalez, 922 F.2d 1044, 1054 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 502 U.S. 1014, 112 S.Ct. 660, 116 L.Ed.2d 751 (1991); United States v. Scaife, 749 F.2d 338, 348 (6th Cir.1984).

In this matter, the underlying offense clearly was a federal offense. The evidence reflected that Hoffman had already cooperated several times with staté authorities and with Erie. Stansfield had knowledge of Hoffman’s past cooperation and was aware that some investigation, though not necessarily a federal one, was underway. Moreover, though it is unclear whether Stansfield was aware of it, the evidence also showed that federal authorities had begun an investigation approximately one month prior to the conduct in. question. Given that Stansfield violated several federal laws and based on the actions he took thereafter, a jury could reasonably find beyond a reasonable doubt that the attack was motivated, at least in part, by Stansfield’s belief that Hoffman might cooperate with federal authorities. See Gonzalez, 922 F.2d at 1054. We conclude that the evidence was sufficient to support a conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C).

2.

a.

• Although Stansfield was indicted tinder 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C), the district court, without objection from counsel, instructed the jury on a different but related offense, 18 U.S.C. § 1512(b)(3). After reading count XI of the indictment verbatim, the district court instructed the jury: “Whoever knowingly uses intimidation or physical farce, with intent to hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement offi*920cer of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a federal offense shall be guilty of a crime.” App. at 104 (emphasis added). This reflects the language of § 1512(b)(3), which provides, in relevant part: “Whoever knowingly uses intimidation or physical force [or] threatens ... another person, or attempts to do so, ... with intent to hinder, delay or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense” is guilty of a crime. The district court proceeded to set forth and . explain the elements of a violation of § 1512(b)(3), not § 1512(a)(1)(C).

Because there was no objection to the charge, Fed. R.CRIM. P. 52(b) is implicated. The Rule provides: “Plain errors or defects affecting substantial rights may be noticed although they were not brought to the attention of the court.” The concept' of “plain error” • comprises four elements: (1) there must be an error, see United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 733-34, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 1777-78, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993); (2) the error must be “plain,” meaning “clear” or “obvious,” id.; (3) the plain error must be one “affecting substantial rights,” i.e., “it must have been prejudicial: It must have affected the outcome of the District Court proceedings,” id.; and (4) because “Rule 52(b) is permissive, not mandatory,” the court should correct plain error affecting substantial rights only where the error (a) “causes the conviction or sentencing of an actually innocent defendant,” or (b) “ ‘seriously affect[s] the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings.’ ” Id. at 735-36, 113 S.Ct. at 1778-79 (quoting United States v. Atkinson, 297 U.S. 157, 160, 56 S.Ct. 391, 392, 80 L.Ed. 555 (1936)) (alteration added).

, For our purposes the difference between § 1512(a)(1)(C) and § 1512(b)(3) is that the former includes an “attempt to kill” element while the latter includes only a “uses intimidation or physical force” element. The question we face, then, is whether the omission of the “attempt to kill” element constituted plain error and requires us to reverse Stans-field’s conviction on Count XI. We hold it does.

This Court has declined to adopt a per se rule that the omission of an essential element of an offense from jury instructions constitutes plain error. See United States v. Xavier, 2 F.3d 1281, 1287 (3d Cir.1993). However, we have also stated that such an omission “ ‘ordinarily constitutes plain error.’ ” Id. (quoting Government of Virgin Islands v. Brown, 685 F.2d 834, 839 (3d Cir.1982)) (emphasis in Xavier). See also United States v. Retos, 25 F.3d 1220, 1231 (3d Cir.1994); United States v. Anderson, 859 F.2d 1171, 1176 (3d Cir.1988); United States v. Small, 472 F.2d 818, 819 (3d Cir.1972). This “general rule ... is consistent with the Supreme Court’s instruction that due process requires ‘proof beyond a reasonable doubt of every fact necessary to constitute the crime with which [the defendant] is charged.’ ” Xavier, 2 F.3d at 1287 (quoting In re Winship, 397 U.S. 358, 364, 90 S.Ct. 1068, 1073, 25 L.Ed.2d 368 (1970)) (alteration added).

The omission of an essential element of an offense from the jury instructions usually will be obvious error, and therefore ordinarily satisfies the first and second requirements of Olano, 507 U.S. at 733-34, 113 S.Ct. at 1777. We have little trouble in concluding that the omission of the attempt to kill element in this case satisfies those first two requirements. See generally Retos, 25 F.3d at 1229-30. We therefore turn to the cases that have discussed the third and fourth steps of Olano.

In Xavier, 2 F.3d at 1286, the defendant was convicted of aiding and abetting the possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. The jury was never instructed that knowledge of the status of the primary wrongdoer (defendant’s brother) as a felon was an essential element of the crime. . Concluding that the omission constituted plain error, the court wrote that “there can be no question that the failure to instruct had an impact on the jury’s deliberations, because the jury could not have been expected to make a finding beyond a reasonable doubt as to [defendant’s] knowledge of his brother’s status as a felon in the absence of an instruction to do so.” Id. at 1287. Thus, the third Olano step was satisfied. The consequent effect on defendant’s due process rights were such *921that the error “seriously affected the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings,” which satisfied Olano’s fourth and final step. Id. (internal quotation marks omitted).

Similarly, in Retos, 25 F.3d at 1229-30, the district court faded to instruct the jury that, to convict the defendant for currency structuring in violation of 31 U.S.C. §§ 5322 and 5324(3), it was required to find that he actually knew that such structuring was unlawful, pursuant to the Supreme Court’s decision in Ratzlaf v. United States, 510 U.S. 135, 148, 114 S.Ct. 655, 663, 126 L.Ed.2d 615 (1994). With respect to the third Olano step, we wrote that, because “the evidence presented by the government on [the defendant’s] structuring count, while sufficient, was not conclusive ... we cannot be certain that the jury found beyond a reasonable doubt that Retos knew his actions were unlawful, absent a specific instruction from the district court judge.” Id. at 1232. We then concluded that, inasmuch as the defendant suffered “severe prejudice,” which is “a hallmark of manifest injustice,” the omission in the jury charge “ ‘seriously affect[ed] the fairness’ ” of the trial and satisfied the fourth Olano step. Id. at 1232 (quoting Olano, 507 U.S at 736, 113 S.Ct. at 1779) (alteration in Retos).

By contrast, in Anderson, 859 F.2d at 1176, the district court had failed to instruct the jury that to find the defendant guilty of a continuing criminal enterprise (“CCE”), it was required to unanimously agree that he committed three violations of the federal drug laws. However, the jury convicted the defendant of three counts of heroin distribution and one count of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute heroin and cocaine, as well as the CCE count. See id. Thus, the jury necessarily made the determination of guilt that was a predicate to conviction on the CCE count even though it was not properly instructed. We refused to find plain error because it was not possible that the jury did not find the omitted element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt. See id.

Such is not the case here. As in Xavier and Retos, the omission of the “attempt to kill” instruction satisfies both the third and fourth steps of the Olano analysis and constitutes plain error. As for the third step, while there was overwhelming evidence that Stansfield “use[d] intimidation or physical force” against Dwight Hoffman, .the evidence that he attempted to kill Hoffman, while perhaps sufficient to support a conviction by a properly instructed jury, was more sketchy and circumstantial in nature. It is quite likely that the outcome oii Count XI would have been different given a proper charge. Even if we conclude that the jury found beyond a reasonable doubt that Stansfield violated 18 U.S.C. § 1512(b)(3), that is a less serious offense, with a statutory maximum sentence of ten years, as opposed to the twenty year maximum provided for by § 1512(a)(1)(C). We conclude that the error was not harmless.

We also conclude that the fourth Olano step, that the error “seriously affeet[ed] the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings,” is satisfied by the failure to instruct a jury that in order to convict a defendant of attempting to kill another to achieve a desired result, the jury must find he actually attempted to kill that person. Instructing a jury essentially that this element may be satisfied by showing the defendant “merely” intimidated or used physical force, and then adjudging him guilty of the more serious crime, is the type of error -that would impugn the judicial system and bring it into disrepute.

The government contends that the error was harmless and did not “seriously affect the fairness, integrity or' public reputation of judicial proceedings.” It argues that Stans-field never disputed he attempted to kill Dwight Hoffman and the evidence was overwhelming that he did. This argument is not persuasive. First, the evidence was far from overwhelming or conclusive that Stansfield attempted to kill Hoffman. Second, the government cites only Stansfield’s closing argument, in which his attorney conceded that Stansfield “may well have intended to kill” the Hoffmans, Supp.App. at 29, for the proposition that he did not dispute that element of the offense. Even if this language were truly a stipulation, which it is not, it concedes only that Stansfield intended to kill Dwight Hoffman, not that he attempted to kill *922Dwight. Hoffman. Moreover, arguments of counsel are not evidence but are merely comments on evidence. Stansfield’s closing argument did not relieve the government of its burden, of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Stansfield attempted to kill Dwight Hoffman.

We conclude that the omission of the “intent to kill” element from the, instructions given the jury constituted plain error. Accordingly, Stansfield’s conviction on Count XI for violating 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C) must be reversed and remanded for a new trial.

b.

Stansfield also argues that the district court erred by failing to instruct the jury that the “law enforcement officer” referred to in § 1512 be an existing federal officer actually investigating the federal offense pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 1515(a)(4). Stansfield did not contemporaneously object to the instructions. The instruction given the jury was not in accord with what we have held regarding this element of the offense. See supra at 918.

On remand, the jury should be instructed that in order to find Stansfield guilty of a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(a)(1)(C), it must find in addition to the other elements of the offense both that he was, motivated by a belief that the victim might communicate with federal authorities concerning the commission or possible commission of an offense, and that the offense in question is in fact a federal offense. Given appropriate evidence, if the jury finds the latter fact to exist, it may find the former to exist as well.

III.

The judgment of conviction entered September 15, 1995, is affirmed as to Counts I, II, III, VI, VII, and XII. The judgment of conviction on Count XI is reversed. The judgment of sentencing on all counts is vacated. The case is remanded to the district court for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.

. Although juror number two, along with jurors number one and nine, originally asked to meet with the court, it was jurors number one, four, and nine who left the jury room during deliberations. App. at 143-44.

. The jury in this case comprised ten women and two men. It is therefore unlikely that these three female jurors were subjected to gender-based insults by more than one-other juror besides the foreman. It is possible, however, that they were subjected to pressure from other female jurors.

. Stansfield seeks to distinguish Hockridge on the ground that, in that case, the two jurors asked to speak with the court after a day of deliberating on the remaining' counts, while here the jurors apparently asked to speak with the court almost immediately after the jury was polled. For purposes of determining the point at which the Rule •606(b) prohibition arises, we see no relevant distinction between the two situations.

. The dissent apparently would impose on the government the burden of proving that the defendant knew or believed either that the offense was federal in nature or that there was a federal investigation in progress. See Dissent typescript at 923. We disagree. Instead, while either of these facts would be sufficient to support an inference that the defendant believed that the *919victim might communicate with the federal authorities, neither is essential.

In support of its own position the dissent contends that Romero, Edwards, and Leisure do not support the majority's conclusions because in each of those cases, according to the dissent, "the defendant had knowledge of the federal nature of the crime and of the consequent potential of a federal investigation." Id. at 923.

A close reading of Edwards and Leisure does not substantiate this view. In Edwards, the court did state that the government presented testimony that the defendants " 'feared [the victim] was informing the DEA about their operations.’ " Id. at 923 (quoting Edwards, 36 F.3d at 645) (alteration added) (emphasis by Dissent). It is unclear from the opinion, however, whether the government had shown that the defendants knew that the DEA specifically, as opposed to law enforcement officials more generally, might he involved. For example, the court stated that the victim was arrested by DEA agents, but does not state whether the defendants actually knew what agency did the arresting. See id. at 642. One assumes that if a defendant's knowledge of the identity of the particular agency were crucial, the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit would have stated so expressly. Moreover, the only evidence the court cited with regard to the defendants' motivation in killing their victim is that they had threatened to kill him "if they discovered he was informing the police about them," id. (emphasis added), and that they had admitted to one witness they killed their victim “to prevent him from busting up their drug operation.” Id. The Seventh Circuit chose the language quoted by the dissent apparently to reflect the fact that it was the DEA which actually was involved in the investigation, not that the defendants had specific knowledge of this. There is nothing else in Edwards to suggest that the defendants knew that the underlying’ offense was a federal offense.

There is also nothing in Leisure to suggest that the defendants had knowledge of the federal nature of the underlying offenses. The court noted that the defendants "began to worry that [the victim] might ... agree to cooperate with the federal authorities and testify against them," Leisure, 844 F.2d at 1353, but the court did not explain the basis for this concern.

The dissent is correct that in Romero the government proved that the defendants had specific knowledge of the federal nature of the underlying offenses. However, in that case the court did not intimate that this was necessary to its decision. Indeed, the Second Circuit in Romero expressly noted its agreement with United States v. Grey Bear, 828 F.2d 1286, 1295, 1297 (8th Cir.), reh’g granted on other grounds, 836 F.2d 1088 (8th Cir.1987), in which the Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit held that threats made to two witnesses to a murder committed on an Indian reservation, made immediately after the murder occurred, were in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512. See Romero, 54 F.3d at 62. Although cited for the fact that there could have been no federal investigation underway at the time the threats were made, see id., there is also no indication of any evidence in Grey Bear that the defendants knew that a federal crime had been committed.