dissenting,
with whom Chief Judge HUG and Judge T.G. NELSON join.My good friend Judge Kozinski sings a Sirens’ song. Nevertheless, I respectfully believe he leads us astray with inventive but obfuseatory conceits. Instead of attacking in a straightforward analytical way the meaning of “carry” in the context of a motor vehicle, he casts the proposition as a “duel” carried on in a language — English no less — too súb-tle to understand. The everyday bread and butter word “carry” takes on metaphysical proportions so diaphanous and illusive that we throw the rule of lenity as a life raft to sinking drug traffickers. The method Judge Kozinski uses to force his one-size-fits-all conclusion reminds me of a debate a wise lawyer once warned me to eschew: is it midnight gray, or is it battleship gray? Moreover, the majority sidesteps the appropriate appellate review of this issue pursuant to the plain error test, relegating plain error analysis to the afterthought of a footnote. In so doing, the majority permits a defendant who conceded the carrying issue at trial simply to walk away from it on appeal.
This is not a “puzzle,” and we do not need “clues” to solve it. It’s “carry,” that’s all, and it’s carry in a vehicle during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime. Ambiguous? Slippery? Elusive? Or is this a case of “nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.”1 I mean no disrespect to Judge Kozinski. He is a readable writer, and he is not alone. The Second and Sixth Circuits have made the same mistake, the mistake Judge Learned Hand warned against of viewing this as solely a verbal problem rather than one with roots and consequences in the real world. Learned Hand, Spirit of Liberty 81 (3d ed. 1974).
What does carry mean?
We have a perfectly good case on the books, the Barber case, that not only reaches the right result with respect to the word “carry” in a vehicle case, but illuminates the flaws in Judge Kozinski’s analysis. In United States v. Barber, 594 F.2d 1242 (9th Cir.1979), we addressed the very issue presented here. Barber had been arrested with a gun *710in a locked glove compartment, and we were called upon to decide whether the gun was “carried” under 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(2), the predecessor to § 924(c)(1). We said,
Although Congress never specifically addressed the question whether the term “carries” was intended to encompass “transports” or “possesses,” we think that the ordinary meaning of the term embraces Barber’s transportation of the weapon. In ordinary usage, the verb “carry” includes transportation or causing to be transported. Nothing in the legislative history indicates that Congress intended any hypertechnical or narrow reading of the word “carries. ”
Id. at 1244 (emphasis added).
This holding embracing the “transportation test” made as much sense then as it does now. The word “carry” derives etymologically from the Latin word “carras.” Carras, in turn, means cart, or vehicle. We recognize this Latin root in words such as car, carriage, and cart. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged 343 (3d ed. 1971) (‘Webster’s”), upon which in its Second Edition the Supreme Court relied in Bailey v. United States, 516 U.S. 137, 143-45, 116 S.Ct. 501, 506, 133 L.Ed.2d 472 (1995) and Smith v. United States, 508 U.S. 223, 229, 113 S.Ct. 2050, 2054, 124 L.Ed.2d 138 (1993). Webster’s defines “carry” as, “1: to move while supporting (as in a vehicle or in one’s hands or arms): move an appreciable distance without dragging: sustain as a burden or load and bring along to another place.” Webster’s at 343. Webster’s lists many other definitions of the word and then, in differentiating “carry” from some of its synonyms, states:
CARRY indicates moving to a location some distance away while supporting or maintaining off the ground. Orig. indicating movement by car or cart, it is a natural word to use in ref. to cargoes and loads on trucks, wagons, planes, ships, or even beasts of burden.
Id. (emphasis added).2
This definition, therefore, clearly includes the transportation of a firearm by ear or by track; whether the item carried is within reach is irrelevant.
We followed Barber in United States v. Streit, 962 F.2d 894 (9th Cir.1992). In Streit, the defendant was charged inter alia with “carrying” a firearm during a crime of violence, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c). Id. at 897. During deliberations, the jury asked whether “holding a gun in one’s hand [would] be considered carrying?” The trial court responded with this instruction:
Members of the jury, you are advised that ‘carrying’ a firearm includes possession of the firearm for purposes related to the commission of a crime of violence. Carry can include transport or possess. “Carrying” should not be construed in a hyper-technical or narrow way.
Id. at 899. We approved this instruction, citing Barber as our authority.
In United States v. Hernandez, 80 F.3d 1253 (9th Cir.1996), however, a ease not involving a motor vehicle, we failed to acknowledge either Barber or Streit, and we did not confine our untidy holding either to its facts or to its nonvehicular context. This oversight caused us to veer off course in numerous subsequent cases involving firearms in vehicles (car cases) where we applied inappropriately the “immediately available for use” test described in Hernandez. We left Barber’s transportation test in the dust, with no explanation or reason given, logical or otherwise. Hernandez gives us a perfectly good test for carrying when vehicles are not involved, but the test fails to give Congressional will its meaning when vehicles are involved. I doubt Congress would recognize Judge Kozinski’s distinction as advancing its purpose. Among other glaring defects, it gives drag traffickers the least exposure to the law’s reach when they are the most vulnerable to detection by law enforcement.
*711To explore § 924(c)(l)’s purpose and to escape the purely semantic trap, I’d like to come at the issue from the perspective of those outlaws whose life-threatening conduct Congress explicitly set out to punish in 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(1). This, of course, is the perspective of the drug trafficking offender who shields himself from the perils of his trade by arming himself with a firearm. A drug trafficker with a firearm makes a statement that he is willing to kill to succeed in his crimes. I do not conjure this perspective out of thin air: every detail of it emerges from the plain language of the statute, from its pellucid purpose, from the compelling legislative history behind its enactment, and from the behavior of drug traffickers Congress sought to manacle. Here it is:
I am a drug trafficker. You’ll find my story in almost every volume of Fed Second and Fed Third. I have plans to deliver the methamphetamine I just cooked to my new customers, so I do what I always do: I take the drugs and my firearm to my car to meet the buyers in some parking lot. I take my weapon, of course, to protect me from a rip off, from disagreements with customers, and from the police.
You circuit judges were correct when you observed that “trafficking in narcotics is very often related to the carrying and use of firearms.” United States v. Willis, 899 F.2d 873, 875 (9th Cir.1990) (quoting United States v. Ramos, 861 F.2d 228, 231 n. 3 (9th Cir.1988)). Mine is an outlaw business. We don’t rely on the covenant of good faith and fair dealing to keep our business affairs on an even keel. We can’t file a lawsuit or call the police when things go sour. The law is no use to us, so self-help — usually with firepower — is the name of the game. If I have to, I might even shoot it out with the police. The new Sentencing Guidelines and those mandatory mínimums are rough. In fact, I don’t want to have anything to do with the police, so when I get to my car, I stash the gun I am. carrying and my drugs somewhere out of sight. Law books and prisons are full of people whose cases started with a traffic stop. Maybe I will put my gun in the trunk or under a seat, but one thing is sure: it will be hidden until I need it. My guns must remain hidden when I’m in public until I need them. Otherwise, they are a ticket to federal prison. My strength becomes my. weakness.
But the police who stop us are wise. They know that a firearm and drugs are linked together like a hand in a glove, so sometimes we go to unusual lengths to hide our guns in our cars when we are most vulnerable to detection. On occasion, we hide them not only in the trunk or under the seat, but even under the hood. Yes, under the hood. We “conceal weapons in the engine compartment of a car for two reasons: 1) so that [we can] have ready access to the gun, but police do not easily discover it; and 2) so that [we can] disclaim knowledge of the weapon if police do discover it.” United States v. Webb, 115 F.3d 711, 713 (9th Cir.1997). Good luck convincing the jury that a gun under the hood of a rental car or even in the trunk is mine. I may be a criminal, but at least I’m good at it.3
So imagine my surprise and delight when I read the majority opinion in this case and learned that although I “carried” my gun to the car “during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime,” I was no longer “carrying” the gun as I secretly transported it to the sale because it wasn’t “immediately available.” Thanks for the distinction. And for the cover. Now we know how to beat 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1). Even though it can be proved to the satisfaction of a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that I carried the firearm to stick it in the trunk or under the hood, and that I then transported it during and in relation to my sale of meth, as a matter of law I am beyond the reach of the statute Congress drafted to address this particular *712problem. I thought I was carrying my firearm and that it was immediately available, but I guess you didn’t.
Thanks.
I choose this unorthodox method of exposing the untoward consequences of Judge Ko-zinski’s opinion because I respectfully believe his highly scholastic analysis suffers from a preoccupation with subtlety and is divorced from the real street world of drug traffickers Congress sought to address. Only a person trained in an American law school under the Soeratic method could postulate the formal but fanciful freeze-frame distinctions that animate the conclusion that a firearm transported in a drug trafficker’s car on the way to a sale is not “carried” by him. The courts are supposed to interpret Congressional will, not contrive sterile artificial lines. The statute we interpret here on its face covers “carrying.”
We seem to have a short institutional memory. Once before we impressed a narrow reading on this statute, and the Supreme Court told us we were wrong. In United States v. Phelps, 877 F.2d 28, 30 (9th Cir.1989), we held that trading a gun in exchange for narcotics could not constitute “use” of a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking offense. The Eleventh Circuit disagreed with us in United States v. Smith, 957 F.2d 835 (11th Cir.1992), and to resolve the conflict, the Supreme Court granted certiorari in Smith v. United States, 508 U.S. at 223, 113 S.Ct. at 2050. Rejecting our “fine metaphysical distinction,” id. at 240, 113 S.Ct. at 2060, the Court said:
There is a significant flaw to this argument [in favor of restricting the meaning of “to use” a firearm to using it as a firearm for its intended purpose]. It is one thing to say that the ordinary meaning of “uses a firearm” includes using a firearm as a weapon, since that is the intended purpose of a firearm and the example of “use” that most immediately comes to mind. But it is quite another to conclude that, as a result, the phrase also excludes any other use.
Id. at 230, 113 S.Ct. at 2055 (emphasis added).
Justice O’Connor held that another flaw in making such a distinction was that it “does violence not only to the structure and language of the statute, but to its purpose as well.” Id. at 240, 113 S.Ct. at 2060. “Language,” she said, “... cannot be interpreted apart from context.” Id. at 229, 113 S.Ct. at 2054.4 She identified the purpose of this statute as arising from Congress’s concern with “drugs and guns [as] a dangerous combination”; and she pointed out that in 1989, “56 percent of all murders in New York were drug related,” and that the same figure in Washington, D.C. was “as high as 80 percent.” Id. at 240, 113 S.Ct. at 2060.
Smith stands for the proposition that there are different ways within this statute to “use” a gun. One way can be to use it as a weapon, another is to use it as an item of barter. Similarly, I would think that just as there are different ways to use a firearm, there are also different ways to carry it. One way is in your hand, another is to carry it in the trunk of your car.
As for the rule of lenity, Justice O’Connor warned that “the mere possibility of articulating a narrower construction ... does not by itself make the rule of lenity applicable.” Id. at 239, 113 S.Ct. at 2059. With all respect to the majority, the use of the rule here is unpersuasive and more makeweight than substance. No drug trafficker in the world (including Foster as shown in his pre-trial memo to the district court) would make this distinction, not one.
I’m at a loss to fathom the compulsion to read “carry” as it relates to vehicles in a constricted manner. The capacity to engage in the midnight gray/battleship gray debate is admirable, but this indulgence simply leads us astray. The irony of the majority’s opinion is that it recognizes the weakness of its own cramped analysis when it defines carrying as including beyond on-the-body-possession, possession where the firearm is “imme*713diately available.” But, Judge Kozinski stops short of a rational application of this logical step to motor vehicles.
An application of this new test to a usual traffic stop scenario illustrates its fickleness. Suppose an officer asks Foster to step to the rear of his truck while the officer checks his license and runs him for warrants: is Foster now carrying the gun because he is standing right next to it? What if Foster retrieves his license from the zip-up bag containing his firearm, but secretly continues to hide the gun from the officer? Surely under Judge Kozinski’s test, he is carrying the firearm as he does so. Is he no longer carrying it if he then moves' to the front of the truck or returns to the passenger compartment? All of this makes for fun in the Socratie classroom, but it does not work on the streets of America, which is what Congress had in mind when it drafted this legislation.
Cars, of course, are designed to carry people and things from place to place. Cars function as extensions of the person when it comes to transporting objects. A car is simply a means of transportation — like a holster. The Supreme Court figured this out in Fourth Amendment car search cases. It finally tired of useless differences becoming constitutional distinctions and declared open season on every place and everything in a car that could conceal the object of a search. The Court said, “We conclude [in light of the practical confusion generated by the old rule] that' it is better to adopt one 'clear-cut rule to govern automobile searches and eliminate the warrant requirement ... set forth in [Arkansas v.] Sanders [, 442 U.S. 753, 99 S.Ct. 2586, 61 L.Ed.2d 235 (1979) ].” California v. Acevedo, 500 U.S. 565, 579, 111 S.Ct. 1982, 1991, 114 L.Ed.2d 619 (1991). Given the meaning of “carry” in the vehicular context, this suggests that anywhere in the vehicle will do.
Parenthetically, even if I were to agree with Judge Kozinski’s holding, I would still conclude that all guns transported in vehicles during and in relation to a drug crime are “immediately available,” or at least that a properly instructed jury could so find. As the car travels, with the trafficker, so does the gun.
Thus, the question in a given vehicle case boils down to a matter of proof. If the government can prove that a drug trafficker is transporting a firearm in. a motor vehicle during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime, (or that he so carried it when he put it in the vehicle), then “carrying” has been established as has the crime charged. If the proof isn’t sufficient, then the requirements of the statute are not satisfied. As then Judge, now Justice Kennedy said, “the ‘in relation to’ language ... make[s] clear ... that a person [cannot] be prosecuted [pursuant to this statute] for committing an entirely unrelated crime while in possession of a firearm.” United States v. Stewart, 779 F.2d 538, 539 (9th Cir.1985), overruled on other grounds, Hernandez, 80 F.3d at 1253.
The Supreme Court made similar observation in Smith:
We are not persuaded that our construction of the phrase “uses ... a firearm” will produce anomalous applications. See post, at 242 (example of using a gun to scratch one’s head). As we already have noted and will explain in greater detail later, -§ 924(c)(1) requires not only that the defendant “use” the firearm, but also that he use it “during and in relation to” the drug trafficking crime. As a result, the defendant who “uses” a firearm to scratch his head, or for some other innocuous purpose, would avoid punishment for that conduct altogether....
508 U.S. at 232, 113 S.Ct. at 2056 (citations omitted).
What have other circuits said?
Looking at opinions from other circuits, Judge Kozinski concludes they are “all over the map.” Once again, only thinking makes it so. He proclaims disarray where there is none, and then uses it as a rationalization for his holding. The First, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Eighth, Tenth, Eleventh, and even the Ninth until today all seem to be in general agreement. Here is a summary of what each have to say.
First Circuit: “[W]e. agree with the Fourth, Seventh, and Tenth Circuits that a gun may be ‘carried’ in a vehicle for the *714purposes of § 924(c)(1) without necessarily being immediately accessible to the defendant while it is being transported.” United States v. Cleveland, 106 F.3d 1056, 1066 (1st Cir.1997), cert. granted, — U.S. -, 118 S.Ct. 621, 139 L.Ed.2d 506 (1997).
Fourth Circuit: “And, because the firearm placed in the trunk of the automobile for the journey to the transfer point [of the sale] is obviously being ‘earned’ under the plain meaning of that term, the firearm does not cease to be ‘carried’ simply because it is not readily accessible to the offender.” United States v. Mitchell, 104 F.3d 649, 653-54 (4th Cir.1997).
Fifth Circuit: “When, as here, the defendant knowingly possesses a firearm in a motor vehicle and uses the vehicle during the commission of the underlying crime, then as a matter of law the firearm is carried during a drug-trafficking offence for purposes of § 924(c).” United States v. Muscarello, 106 F.3d 636, 639 (5th Cir.1997), cert. granted, — U.S. -, 118 S.Ct. 621, 139 L.Ed.2d 506 (1997).
Seventh Circuit: “The question before us is not where the gun was located at the time of arrest, but rather did the defendant carry the gun during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime. It does not matter where the gun was at the time of the arrest,____ [W]e need not concern ourselves with the question of whether the gun was within immediate reach. Not only was the gun likely carried in relation to the drug trafficking crime at the time that it was placed in the compartment with drugs, but it was also surely carried in relation to the crime when it was transported in a ear in the same compartment that contains drugs possessed with the intent to distribute.” United States v. Molina, 102 F.3d 928, 931-32 (7th Cir.1996).
Eighth Circuit: “As we said in Freisinger, [937 F.2d at 387,] “when a motor vehicle is used, carrying a weapon takes on a less restrictive meaning than carrying on the person. The means of carrying is the vehicle.’ ” United States v. Nelson, 109 F.3d 1323, 1326 (8th Cir.1997) (emphasis added). In fact, “our prior decision in Freisinger, [holding that the common usage of carries includes carrying in a vehicle survives Bailey, ] and remains binding precedent on this court.” Willis, 89 F.3d at 1379.
Tenth Circuit: “In light of the above, our pre-Bailey cases, correctly interpreted, hold that the government is required to prove only that the defendant transported a firearm in a vehicle and that he had actual or constructive possession of the firearm while doing so---- We see nothing in Bailey that conflicts with our pre-Bailey ‘vehicular carrying’ line of cases.” United States v. Miller, 84 F.3d 1244, 1259-60 (10th Cir.1996), overruled on other grounds, United States v. Holland, 116 F.3d 1353 (10th Cir.1997).
Eleventh Circuit: “The evidence presented by the government is enough to support Far-ris’ conviction on the gun charge. The jury heard that Bush originally told agents the gun belonged to Farris; the gun was present in a car from which drugs were being distributed; Farris set up the drug deal and was to make the sale; and Bush never left the ear which contained the remaining cocaine and the gun. From this the jury could find that the Toyota was used as a drug distribution center and that Farris knew the firearm was in the automobile. Put differently, the jury could find that the firearm [in the glove compartment] was being carried by Farris [, who was sitting in the backseat,] in the vehicle.” United States v. Farris, 77 F.3d 391, 395-96 (11th Cir.1996).
While we have been debating this case en banc, the Supreme Court has granted certio-rari in Cleveland and Muscarello. I am certain that our opinions will contribute to a final resolution of this issue.
How did the firearm get in the truck?
Yet another serious problem exists with the majority’s resolution of this appeal: they restrict the ultimate question in the case to whether Foster was carrying a gun “when he drove with it in his truck bed.” The problem with this freeze-frame formulation, as recognized by the Seventh Circuit in Molina, is that the loaded gun didn’t crawl by itself into the truck bed of Foster’s ear with the incriminating drug paraphernalia — any more than did the O’Haus scale, the baggies, and the price list. To repeat from Molina, “It does *715not matter where the gun was at the time of the arrest, ... [W]e need not concern ourselves with the question of whether the gun was within immediate reach---- [T]he gun [was] carried in relation to the drug trafficking crime at the time that it was placed in the compartment with the drugs.... The relation between the firearm and the drugs— which is, after all, the core of the offense-ns best established by their relation to each other, and not by the distance between owner and the gun at the moment of arrest.” Molina, 102 F.3d at 931-32 (emphasis added). Given the strong evidence in this ease, as arrayed in the panel opinion, United States v. Foster, 57 F.3d 727 (9th Cir.1995), why could the jury not have concluded circumstantially that Foster carried the gun when he placed it in the truck?
In fact, Foster did not deny that the gun was his or that he possessed it or even that he carried it. Foster alleged only that the ‘‘during and in relation ” element of the charge was not adequately explained to the jury or proved. In a pre-trial memorandum filed on May 15, 1989, Foster’s attorney chose not to contest the carrying element of the charge, and even conceded it with a ploy commonly called confession and avoidance:
2. Defendant’s Position
It is the Defendant’s Leon Foster [sic] position that he is not involved in the manufacture or distribution of amphetamines. In addition it is the Defendant’s position that the drugs found at the- residence were not his. Since he was not involved in any illegal activity there was no violation of the law by him carrying around the firearm in his vehicle. As such, he is not guilty on any charge,
(emphasis added).
One might find it ironic that Foster’s lawyer understood his client’s involvement with the firearm as “carrying,” yet we do not.
Any lingering question about whether Foster was carrying the firearm or whether he put it in the trunk is answered by his testimony on direct examination at the trial:
A. ... In the back of my trunk I had a little blue zip-up bag that I had a 9 millimeter in that I had over in the mountains, because where we ride there’s a lot of rattlesnakes out there. I remember standing behind the pickup while they were searching the vehicle. They asked me if. I had any weapons or guns on my person, weapons or knives on my person, and I responded no, that I did not, that I did have a pistol in the back of the truck. I informed them of that, (emphasis added).
On cross examination, Foster reaffirmed his knowing possession and transportation of the gun in his truck.
Q. Now, the gun you had when you were arrested, that’s this one here, that 9 mm gun?
A. Yes, sir.
In a footnote I fail to comprehend, Judge Kozinski says, “How do we know that Foster, and not someone else, took the gun to the truck?” One only has to read Foster’s testimony and his trial memo to answer this untenable question.
Given the rest of the drug related evidence in the back of the truck and elsewhere, the jury concluded that the gun was related to possession of drugs and conspiracy, both continuing offenses. Foster’s attempt to extricate himself from the avalanche of evidence against him by claiming he carried the gun to shoot snakes is hardly credible and did not raise a doubt in the mind of a single juror who heard it. The evidence to support the jury’s conclusion is overwhelming, especially when viewed in the light most favorable to it.
Does Foster’s appeal survive plain error review?
Here, however, is a serious twist which Judge Kozinski brushes aside in a footnote: Foster did not object at trial to the definition of “carry” being used to convict him or to any aspect of that element of the charge. He failed utterly to challenge its meaning and focused instead as promised in his trial memorandum on whether the government could prove the “during and in relation to” element. Thus, assuming that Judge Kozin-ski is correct in his new definition of “carry” and that an error has become “plain” on appeal, Foster’s failure to object requires us to subject this issue to plain error analysis *716pursuant to Fed.R.Crim.P. 52(b). See Johnson v. United States, — U.S. -, -, 117 S.Ct. 1544, 1546, 137 L.Ed.2d 718 (1997). In Johnson, the Supreme Court held that plain error review as outlined in United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 113 S.Ct. 1770, 123 L.Ed.2d 508 (1993) applies on direct appeal to matters to which a defendant did not object at trial. The Court explained its reasoning as follows:
[I]t is [Rule 52] which by its terms governs direct appeals from judgments of conviction in the federal system, and' therefore governs this case. We cautioned against any unwarranted expansion of Rule 52(b) in United States v. Young, 470 U.S. 1, 105 S.Ct. 1038, 84 L.Ed.2d 1 (1985), because it “would skew the Rule’s ‘careful balancing of our need to encourage all trial participants to seek a fair and accurate trial the first time around against our insistence that obvious injustice be promptly redressed,’ ” id. at 15, 105 S.Ct. at 1046. Even less appropriate than an unwarranted expansion of the Rule would be the creation out of wholeeloth of an exception to it, an exception which we have no authority to make.
Johnson, — U.S. at -, 117 S.Ct. at 1548 (citations omitted).
After Olano and Johnson, I beg to differ with Judge Kozinski’s assertion that our review of this ease is somehow independent of Rule 52(b).5 I find no support anywhere for this sweep-the-chess-pieees-off-the-board pronouncement. In fact, Johnson itself dictates to the contrary:
Petitioner argues that she need not fall within the “limited” and “circumscribed” structures of Olano, because the error she complains of here is “structural,” and so is outside Rule 52(b) altogether. But the seriousness of the error claimed does not remove consideration of it from the ambit of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
Johnson, — U.S. at -, 117 S.Ct. at 1548 (emphasis added). I find it surprising that we defy Johnson less that a year after it was decided. Johnson was a bucket of cold water in our face to remind us of the statutory limits on our authority.
In a nutshell, assuming that Foster was the victim of plain error as to “carry,” I would still refuse under Olano to exercise our discretion to reverse. Given (1) the overwhelming concrete evidence of guilt, (2) the sensible observation in Molina that whoever put the gun in the car surely carried it, in this case Foster, and (3) Foster’s unpersuasive defense that although he “carried” the gun in his car — his own lawyer’s words — he did not do so “during and in relation to” a drug trafficking crime, Foster’s conviction was not a miscarriage of justice. I am convinced beyond all doubt that the “error” does not seriously affect the “fairness, integrity, or public reputation” of this or any other judicial proceeding. See United States v. Olano, 62 F.3d 1180, 1188 (9th Cir.1995) (on remand from the Supreme Court); Johnson, — U.S. at -, 117 S.Ct. at 1546; United States v. Perez, 116 F.3d 840, 846 (9th Cir.1997) (en banc); United States v. Uchimura, 125 F.3d 1282, 1286-87 (9th Cir.1997).
At the very least, I would remand this case for a new trial on carrying so that the government can have an opportunity — now that we have changed the law — to use the Molina theory to try to convict him. Judge Kozin-ski’s reason for refusing to do this is really quite arresting: the government has not asked for this opportunity. Of course! The government relied at trial in 1989 and relies here' on appeal on Barber and Streit — and quite properly so. Foster did not even contest carrying at trial. We are the ones improvidently pulling that rug out from under them, and we now rely on our alteration of the law and post facto undoing of cases to deny the government the opportunity to adjust its case to our new holding. It is only “too late in the day” because of our inability to provide coherent and stable direction to the parties. Such a holding is the apotheosis of imperiousness.
Postscript.
I conclude with an excerpt from an article written by Judge Robert Gardner, once the *717Presiding Justice of California’s Fourth District Court Appeal and a well-respected jurist. The article speaks volumes about making much ado about very little. It is the story of a legendary California Justice of the Peace and City Judge of the Laguna Beach Township in the 1950s: The Honorable C.C. “Gawy Cravath.” Gawy wasn’t a lawyer, he was a retired big league baseball player — in fact, the acknowledged first king of the home run before Babe Ruth. As a layperson Justice of the Peace, he had little patience for angels dancing on pins (or swallows, bits, serves and trips), and it showed in the manner in which he instructed a jury as to the plain meaning of words:
Gawy had a favorite, if uncomfortable way, of expressing his distaste for the legal profession. After the taking of evidence, the judge instructs the jury as to the law. In those days, we made up our own instructions. Now it is done with a handy little book. However, in those days, you would spend countless hours in the law library preparing instructions which told the jury that your side of the case was right. Your opponent was doing the same thing. Then you both handed your sets of instructions to the judge and hoped he would read yours to the jury. Gawy would have none of this nonsense. He would look at this awesome stack of papers for a moment, shake his head in disgust, then in full view of the jury throw all of these wonderful works of legal art into the wastebasket. Then Gawy would turn to the jury and say something like this: “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. The defendant is charged with stealing $50 from Mr. Jones, I certainly hope that you have lived long enough to know what stealing means without my spending a couple of hours telling you the fine legal distinctions in the law on theft. Stealing means exactly what it says. The district attorney has the responsibility of proving that the defendant is guilty of theft beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty. If he hasn’t carried that burden, you are to acquit the defendant. You have heard the evidence and are the only ones who can decide who is telling the truth and who is not. Now retire, deliberate and come to a decision.” As I look over the above, it’s not bad. Frankly, it’s a lot better that the countless hours of hairsplitting refinements and nitpicking redundancies I inflicted on juries throughout my years as a trial judge under the guise of instructing them as to the applicable law.
Robert Gardner, Gavvy Cravath — An Orange County Original.
I respectfully dissent.
. Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 2, Scene 2, 239-51.
. The Eighth Circuit held in United States v. Freisinger, 937 F.2d 383, 387 (8th Cir.1991) that "carrying a firearm in a vehicle is within the ordinary meaning of 'carrying a firearm.' ” The Eighth Circuit subsequently held that this definition survives Bailey. United States v. Willis, 89 F.3d 1371, 1379 (8th Cir.1996).
. Judge Kozinski makes the wholly pointless statement that a gun in a bag under a tarp on a truck bed poses substantially "less risk ” than one in a drug trafficker's hand. I respond with two comments. First, "less risk” here is another misleading word game. Anthrax in a bottle poses substantially "less risk” than anthrax in a missile warhead. “Less risk" has meaning in the insurance business, but not here. Second, Judge Kozinski sees the world in stop action segments. Risk when? This is the kind of thinking that gives ammunition to police officers who believe we live in an ivory tower.
. The Supreme Court subsequently reminded us that when we construe words in a statute, we must "consider not only the bare meaning of the word but also its placement and purpose in the statutory scheme.” Bailey, 516 U.S. at -, 116 S.Ct. at 506 (emphasis added). Judge Kozinski's word games prove my point: context and purpose erase ambiguity.
. We were simply wrong in our pre-Johnson decision in United States v. Lopez, 100 F.3d 98, 103 n. 10 (9th Cir.1996) when we applied a harmless rather than a plain error test.