dissenting in part, and concurring in part.
I agree with the majority’s conclusion that the prosecution did not establish that Officer Nelson had probable cause to arrest the defendant. However, the same testimony that requires us to reverse the district court’s determination that the government had probable cause also establishes that Officer Nelson did not have reasonable suspicion to stop and detain the occupants of the ear. Therefore, I disagree with the majority’s decision to remand this matter so that the district court can determine if the stop was authorized under Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 88 S.Ct. 1868, 20 L.Ed.2d 889 (1968). It clearly was not, and I would so rule as a matter of law. Thus, I dissent from that portion of the opinion that allows reconsideration under Terry on remand.
I.
Terry v. Ohio created a very limited exception to the general warrant requirement of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. See 392 U.S. at 21, 88 S.Ct. at 1879-80. Although Terry allows an investigative stop, it still requires reasonable suspicion before the government can justify even this limited intrusion. “It is well established that an investigatory stop short of an arrest is valid based upon a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot.” United States v. Rickus, 737 F.2d 360, 365 (3d Cir.1984) “Reasonable suspicion must be based upon ‘specific and articulable facts which, taken together with rational inferences from those facts reasonably warrant that intrusion.’ ” Id. (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 21, 88 S.Ct. at 1880).
This record establishes only that three armed robberies had occurred — two in Ben-salem Township and one in Bristol — sometime during the evening of July 25, 1995, and *533that two Black males in a black sports car that was probably a Camaro Z28 were involved. Officer Nelson did not know which direction nor road the ear was last reported traveling. Although the car in which the defendant was riding was a black sports car, it was not a Camaro Z28. Rather, the defen-' dant was traveling in a Nissan Model 300ZX. As the majority correctly notes, the record contains no evidence that these two cars are so similar that they can easily be confused with each other or that Officer Nelson believed the Nissan to be a Camaro, Officer Nelson’s focus was not on a particular model sports car. Instead, it was on the color of the sports car and the race of its occupants.
The car that Officer Nelson stopped was not only a different make and model than the one most likely involved with the armed robberies, but the number of occupants it contained appeared to be inconsistent with the radio broadcast as well. The majority points out that it was only after Officer Nelson initiated the stop and saw a second pair of hands go into the air that she realized that the car did in fact contain two males.1 At the suppression hearing, Officer Nelson was asked, “from the time you pulled directly behind the vehicle and the time you pulled the vehicle over, you thought initially that there was one black male in that vehicle?” She answered: “Correct.” App. 47a. Therefore, disregarding the allegation of a traffic violation, Officer Nelson stopped this car solely because it was a black sports car driven by an African American male near Bristol Township shortly after she learned that two African American males had committed a series of armed robberies in that area. Based on this record, the majority correctly concludes that “Officer Nelson could not justifiably arrest any African American man who happened to drive by” in any type of black sports car.” Majority Op. at 532. However, the majority then allows the government an opportunity to establish that Officer Nelson’s stop was appropriate under Terry v. Ohio, rather than following the obvious extension of its own logic. Just as this record fails to establish that Officer Nelson had probable cause to arrest any Black male who happened to drive by in a black sports car, it also fails to establish reasonable suspicion to justify stopping any and all such cars that happened to contain a Black male. See Terry, 392 U.S. at 30, 88 S.Ct. at 1884-85.
The majority states “on remand the district court should examine whether Officer Nelson had a reasonable suspicion sufficient to warrant an investigative stop.” Majority Op. at 532. However, it is clear that she did not. “In determining whether a stop is justified, the court must view the circumstances surrounding the stop in their entirety, giving due weight to the experience of the officers.” Rickus, 737 F.2d at 365. The district court explained the discrepancy between the radio broadcast of two Black males and Officer Nelson’s observation of a different model black sports car containing only one Black male as follows:
Now, the issue of one black male versus two black males. She testified that she had not seen cars driven by other black males for the time she had been looking, and she sees a black sports ear driven by one black male. I do believe its still supported by probable cause that there is another black male in the car, or that perhaps they had split up or whatever.
But even so, I think the probable cause is heightened by the fact that she had not seen a lot of cars driven by black males in this area....
App. at 60a.
However, there is nothing on this record to suggest that the perpetrators “had split up” following the robbery, or that someone other than the driver was in the car when Officer Nelson stopped it. Unsupported conjecture of this type would allow a stop of a car containing any number of Black males as one could always speculate that the ear stopped and perpetrators got in or out of the car. This speculation renders the radio information regarding the number of suspects irrelevant and allows police officers to stop any *534Black person riding in any car that is “similar” to one involved in a crime even where, as here, that car does not match the likely description that has been broadcast on police radio. Conclusions based upon possibilities, no matter how remote or speculative, are inconsistent with the need to justify an investigative stop with reasonable suspicion based upon specific and articulable facts. Accordingly, any attempt to justify the instant stop under Terry would elevate speculation and conjecture to the level of articulable facts.
[T]he types of articulable facts that can provide reasonable suspicion cannot include ‘circumstances [which] describe a very large category of presumably innocent travelers, who would be subject to virtually random seizures’ were the circumstances accepted as reasons for the investigation.
Karnes v. Skrutski, 62 F.3d 485, 492 (3d Cir.1995) (quoting Reid v. Georgia, 448 U.S. 438, 100 S.Ct. 2752, 65 L.Ed.2d 890 (1980)). That is what happened here. Absent a traffic violation, Officer Nelson’s stop is little more than a random stop of an African American male in a black sports car.
II.
Although I agree that it would normally be important to determine if the car that was stopped went through a red light, I question the propriety of allowing that inquiry in this case. At the beginning of the suppression hearing, an issue arose as to Officer Nelson’s credibility. The prosecutor stated that he was going to call Officer Nelson, and that she was going to testify that the driver of the car in which defendant was riding disregarded a red light when she pulled up behind the car. The prosecutor also informed the district court that Carl Green, the driver of that car, had already entered a guilty plea in front of a different judge. As part of his plea agreement, Green had agreed to “cooperate, and provide truthful testimony” in the government’s prosecution of Kithcart. App. at 13a. Although Green’s testimony apparently implicated Green in the armed robberies, the government stipulated that if he were called to testify at Kithcart’s suppression hearing, Green would testify that he did not go through the red light when Officer Nelson pulled up behind his car.
Essentially the bottom line is, that Carl Green, if called to testify at this hearing, would say that it was his recollection that he did not go through a red light immediately prior to being stopped by Officer Nelson.
And I discussed this matter with [defense counsel] and he felt that if the government would enter into a stipulation that it would be Mr. Green’s testimony, that there would be no need to have Mr. Green as a witness in the hearing and that Police Officer Nelson’s testimony would be the only evidence the government would put forward.
App. at 22a.
However, the district court was justifiably concerned about making a credibility determination that required it to judge the live testimony of Officer Nelson against contradicting testimony that was to be admitted by way of stipulation. The court told defense counsel:
I guess the problem I have is that you want me to assess credibility, and you want me to do it in a vacuum. In other words, assess this police officer’s credibility compared to nothing, compared to the fact that Mr. Green wouldn’t be testifying, but that he would say. And yet for the purpose of credibility, that makes it very difficult, are you certain this is the way you want me to proceed?
App. at 25a.
The government responded that its position was that Officer Nelson had reasonable suspicion when she pulled up behind Green’s car, but that the government’s argument was two prong. The government argued that the car was stopped for a traffic violation but, regardless of the alleged violation, Officer Nelson still had reasonable suspicion to stop the ear based upon the radio transmissions she received regarding armed robberies in a neighboring township. App. at 26a. The prosecutor stated “even if your Honor were to discount ... Officer Nelson’s testimony [about the traffic violation] in its entirety, there was still reasonable suspicion” to stop the ear. App. at 26a. No doubt out of a desire to adjudicate this case fairly and expe*535ditiously, the district court agreed to hear Green’s testimony outside the presence of the jury during the course of his trial testimony and to reserve any issue of credibility until that point. This would have allowed the trial to proceed while still affording both sides a fair opportunity to litigate the credibility issues that related to the suppression motion. The court then reemphasized: “I would be very reluctant to make a decision without hearing from [Green].” The trial judge told the prosecutor, “I believe the ball is in . your court.” App. at 29a. Almost immediately thereafter, the government called Officer Nelson to testify about the circumstances leading up to the arrest of the defendant. However, at the conclusion of Officer Nelson’s testimony the district court upheld the arrest based upon its belief that Officer Nelson’s testimony established probable cause regardless of any traffic violation, and the defendant entered his conditional guilty plea immediately thereafter. Accordingly, the matter never proceeded to trial, and the district court never had an opportunity to hear Green’s testimony and make a finding of fact about the alleged traffic violation.
Officer Nelson would clearly have been justified in stopping Green’s car to enforce the traffic laws if Green drove through a red light. See United States v. Moorefield, 111 F.3d 10, 12 (3d. Cir.1997) (“It is well-established that a traffic stop is lawful under the Fourth Amendment where a police officer observes a violation of the sate traffic regulations.”). The police would also have been justified in ordering Green and Kithcart out of the car if that is what happened. See Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106, 111, 98 S.Ct. 330, 333-34, 54 L.Ed.2d 331 (1977) (concluding that ordering a driver out of the car after a traffic violation is a justifiable, de minimis intrusion). However, the record does not allow a court to determine what happened after the car was stopped. The prosecutor apparently thought that the gun that was seized from Kithcart would automatically be admitted if he established the legality of the initial stop. However, the traffic violation would not necessarily allow the prosecution to admit the gun into evidence merely because it justified the traffic stop. This record is devoid of evidence to support a conclusion that any search of Kith-cart’s person after the stop was reasonable under the Fourth Amendment.
The prosecution informed the district court that the only evidence it planned to present during the suppression hearing was Officer Nelson’s testimony. The following exchange occurred during that testimony:
Q. Did any officer recover a gun from the defendant, Jesse Kithcart?
A. Yes.
Q. Who was that?
A. That was Officer Bill Williams.
A. I was given [by Officer Williams] a 32 revolver and I was given a white nylon pouch.
Q. Have you spoken to Officer Williams about where they recovered the gun from Mr. Kithcart?
A. Yes.
Q. What did Officer Williams say?
A. Officer Williams stated to me that the gun was recovered from the nylon pouch.
Q. And where was the nylon pouch?
A. It was on Mr. Kithcart’s waist.
App. at 40a-41a. The prosecution never planned to call Officer Williams, or any other witness, (other than Carl Green) and there is nothing to suggest that additional testimony was unavailable. Officer Nelson neither searched the car nor the seized weapon in question. She may have seen other officers conduct the search and/or seize the gun, but that was not her testimony. There is nothing on this record to inform the suppression court whether Kithcart’s gun was discovered during a pat down search or whether it was in plain view — though inside the pouch. The fact finder must guess about how the gun was seized and any basis for the reasonable suspicion that may have been necessary to justify the seizure.2
*536I appreciate that any police officer approaching this ear would be apprehensive. That is true whether or not the driver had gone through a red light. Indeed, the normal experience of a police officer would dictate caution in approaching any stopped car whether or not the officer believed the car to contain armed suspects. “The Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized that traffic stops are dangerous encounters that result in assaults and murders of police officers.” Moorefield, 111 F.3d at 13. (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). However, although the exigencies and dangers that are endemic to any such confrontation are part of the analysis of whether the resulting intrusion is “reasonable” under the Fourth Amendment, they do not remove all of the protection afforded under it. Accordingly, a police officer can conduct a pat down search of the occupants of a stopped car “where the officer is ‘able to point to specific and articu-lable facts which, taken together with rational inferences from those facts, reasonably warrant that intrusion.’ ” Id. (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 27, 88 S.Ct. at 1882-83). The reasonable inferences that arise from the circumstances of a traffic stop are such that it does not require a “leap of faith” to conclude that the instant seizure was justified if there was a traffic violation. However, the interests protected by the Fourth Amendment are too important to allow Officer Nelson’s testimony to bridge the void in this record. The prosecutor here made no effort to have an appropriate witness articulate the circumstances surrounding the seizure of the gun. Accordingly, I am reluctant to assume that the government should now be allowed to produce a witness on remand that it should have, and could have, called during the initial suppression hearing.
I would leave it to the trial court’s discretion to decide whether the prosecutor should be allowed to produce the testimony that I think is needed to bridge the interstices in this transcript. That court will be in the best position to determine whether or not the government should be allowed a second the bite of the Terry apple by producing testimony beyond that which is necessary to rule upon the issue of the alleged traffic violation. If there was no traffic violation, Officer Nelson was not justified in stopping the car in which Kithcart was riding. If the suppression court concludes that there was a traffic violation, then it should determine the propriety of allowing testimony regarding the circumstances of the seizure after considering any explanation as to why that testimony was not produced initially.
I do not think it is asking too much to expect attorneys to attempt to meet their burdens of proof when issues are first litigated. A court should not have to connect the dots of inferences scattered as far apart as the ones on this record to construct a picture of what occurred during the stop. Accordingly, although I join the majority opinion insofar as it reverses the order of the district court, I must, however, respectfully dissent from the remainder of my colleagues’ opinion.
. I do not mean to suggest that Officer Nelson would have been justified in stopping this Nissan even if she had seen the passenger.
. There were several police officers on the scene, and it is unclear whether Officer Williams seized the gun from Kithcart, or if he merely received it *536from another officer and gave it to Officer Nelson.