Joann Cavalieri, as Plenary Guardian of the Estate of Steven Cavalieri, a Disabled Person v. Donald Shepard

DIANE P. WOOD, Circuit Judge.

Steven Cavalieri is in a vegetative state after attempting suicide in a holding cell in the Champaign County Correctional Facility (the CCCF). Steven’s mother, Joann Cavalieri, brought this action under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 as the guardian of her son’s estate, claiming that Steven attempted suicide after Donald Shepard, a police officer with the City of Champaign (the City), and others acted with deliberate indifference to his risk of suicide. Shepard now appeals from the district court’s denial of his motion for summary judgment and claim of qualified immunity. We affirm.

I

Although this is an interlocutory appeal, Shepard is entitled to bring it now, because he is raising the question whether he should have prevailed on his defense of qualified immunity, based on the facts taken in the light most favorable to Mrs. Cavalieri. See Mitchell v. Forsyth, 472 U.S. 511, 525-26, 105 S.Ct. 2806, 86 L.Ed.2d 411 (1985). We must resolve a qualified immunity issue as early as possible in the proceedings, because it is an “immunity from suit rather than a mere defense to liability.” Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194, 200, 121 S.Ct. 2151, 150 L.Ed.2d 272 (2001) (emphasis in original). We present the facts below in the light most favorable to Mrs. Cavalieri, because we have no appellate jurisdiction to the extent disputed facts are central to the case. See Johnson v. Jones, 515 U.S. 304, 115 S.Ct. 2151, 132 L.Ed.2d 238 (1995).

On June 4, 1998, Steven kidnaped Stephanie Rouse, his former girlfriend,, and took her from Champaign to a remote area of Urbana. Using a gun, he threatened to kill both Rouse and himself. Rouse convinced Steven to drive back to town, and then she called his mother from a public phone. After speaking with Rouse, Mrs. Cavalieri called the Crisis Hotline in Champaign County. Rouse later placed a call to the Crisis Hotline as well. The Crisis Hotline contacted the Metropolitan Computer Aided Dispatch (METCAD), which called the City Police Department.

The Champaign Police Department dispatched two officers who were instructed that there was a hostage situation involving a man with a gun. At approximately *6193:00 a.m., the officers knocked on Rouse’s door; a male responded, but he refused to let the officers inside. The officers then called a hostage negotiation team and contacted Rouse by telephone. Rouse denied that Steven was present and that she might need assistance, but she also refused to leave her apartment. This standoff continued for several hours until approximately 6:00 a.m., when a member of the hostage negotiation team spoke with Mrs. Cavalieri. She advised the officers that her son was suicidal and needed to go to a hospital.

About an hour later, the SWAT team entered the apartment using pepper spray. They immediately handcuffed and removed all the occupants, including Steven, who was found hiding under a kitchen cabinet. Rouse was briefly interviewed at the scene. After the SWAT team located Steven, Rouse informed the officers of the events of the evening, specifically telling them that Steven had threatened to kill both himself and her.

After Steven arrived at the City jail, he met with defendant Shepard for approximately one hour. Steven asked Shepard if he could speak to a mental health counsel- or, and Shepard explained that jail personnel would arrange for him to speak with someone. At around 10:00 a.m., Steven was transferred to the CCCF. Despite the official transfer, Shepard remained personally involved with the case and continued to participate in interviews with both Rouse and Mrs. Cavalieri.

First, Shepard joined an ongoing interview with Rouse. Rouse explained once again that Steven had threatened to kill her and commit suicide himself. Rouse also told Shepard that this kidnaping came just a month after Steven was arrested for criminal trespass at Rouse’s apartment. Finally, Rouse told Shepard that Steven claimed that he would kill himself if he ever returned to jail.

Next, Shepard interviewed Mrs. Cavali-eri. Mrs. Cavalieri told Shepard that she wanted to make arrangements to ensure that her son saw a counselor. She also explained that her son’s mental condition was fragile, and she told Shepard about the calls to the Crisis Line the night before. Finally, she told Shepard that Steven had been on suicide watch the month before at the CCCF, while he was being held there in conjunction with his criminal trespass arrest. Shepard advised Mrs. Cavalieri that Steven’s mind was “on overload,” that he seemed very upset, and that he believed Steven would need counseling. Mrs. Cavalieri told Shepard that Steven needed to be on suicide watch and should not be left alone. Shepard responded by promising Mrs. Cavalieri that Steven would not be alone.

Around 11:00 a.m., Shepard called the CCCF to speak with Steven. He informed Steven that Mrs. Cavalieri was with him and that she would arrange for him to have a counselor. During this conversation Steven told Shepard that he was doing fine and that he was looking forward to seeing his mother. Shepard then directed Mrs. Cavalieri to County Mental Health so that she could arrange for Steven to speak with a counselor.

Shepard asserts that after completing these interviews, he did not subjectively believe that Steven was a suicide risk. He emphasizes that Steven seemed calm when they spoke on the phone, was without weapons, and that during their phone conversation he stated that he was doing fine. Unfortunately, this was far from the case.

After Steven was transferred to the CCCF, he was not placed on suicide watch. Steven himself did not alert the CCCF staff to the fact that he was having suicidal thoughts. Indeed, during his intake he *620denied all the events of the early morning (having the gun, harming or threatening anyone, having suicidal thoughts or ever attempting to commit suicide). He did ask to speak to a mental health advisor, and was told he would receive one, but no advisor came before his attempt on his life. Steven was assigned to a holding cell in the booking area while he awaited further processing. The holding cell contained a telephone with a strong metal cord. Later that afternoon, Shepard called the CCCF to instruct the guards to put a stop to Steven’s phone calls, as he had been making annoying calls to Rouse. Shepard was then informed that around 2:10 p.m., Steven had been found unconscious, hanging from the wire telephone cord. To this day, he has not regained consciousness and remains in an unresponsive state. He now lives in a nursing home near his mother.

II

As the Supreme Court recently reminded us, in order to decide whether a defendant is entitled to qualified immunity, we must first determine whether (taking the facts in the light most favorable to the plaintiff) a constitutional right was violated, and second, if those facts would demonstrate a violation, we must decide whether the right in question was clearly established at the time the events took place. Saucier, 533 U.S. at 200, 121 S.Ct. 2151. We review these issues de novo, DuFour-Dowell v. Cogger, 152 F.3d 678, 680 (7th Cir.1998). Viewing the record in the light most favorable to Mrs. Cavalieri, we conclude that Shepard can prevail in this case only if certain disputed facts are resolved in his favor by a trier of fact. Put differently, taking the facts from the required perspective, we conclude that Steven’s constitutional rights were violated and that these rights were clearly established as of mid-1998.

A

As an initial matter, we must determine whether Mrs. Cavalieri has alleged facts that would show that Shepard’s conduct violated her son’s constitutional rights. Mrs. Cavalieri first claimed violations of the Fourth Amendment, but she now correctly asserts that Steven’s claim, which she is pursuing as his guardian, arises (if at all) under the Fourteenth Amendment. See Bell v. Wolfish, 441 U.S. 520, 535 n. 16, 99 S.Ct. 1861, 60 L.Ed.2d 447 (1979). The Eighth Anendment does not apply to pretrial detainees, but as a pretrial detainee, Steven was entitled to at least the same protection against deliberate indifference to his basic needs as is available to convicted prisoners under the Eighth Amendment. Id.; Payne v. Churchich, 161 F.3d 1030, 1039-41 (7th Cir. 1998); Tesch v. County of Green Lake, 157 F.3d 465, 473 (7th Cir.1998). Under both the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendment standards, the plaintiff has the burden of showing that (1) the harm to the plaintiff was objectively serious; and (2) that the official was deliberately indifferent to her health or safety. Fanner v. Brennan, 511 U.S. 825, 833, 114 S.Ct. 1970, 128 L.Ed.2d 811 (1994); Payne, 161 F.3d at 1041 (“A detainee establishes a § 1983 claim by demonstrating that the defendants were aware of a substantial risk of serious injury to the detainee but nevertheless failed to take appropriate steps to protect him from a known danger.”).

The question is whether Shepard was aware that Steven was on the verge of committing suicide (which, if it occurred, surely would qualify as a serious harm). If the trier of fact believes Mrs. Cavalieri’s account, the answer is yes. We realize that according to Shepard, the only facts available to him were (1) Rouse’s statement that Steven attempted to kill her and *621himself, but that she had calmed him down and he apologized; (2) that Steven was calm when interviewed; (3) that Steven did not have a weapon and was under custody; and (4) that Steven said he was fine when Shepard spoke with him over the phone. Unfortunately for Shepard, if other evidence in the record is credited, a trier of fact could conclude that he knew much more. Since we must take the facts in the light most favorable to Mrs. Cavali-eri, we must also consider four additional facts: (1) that Shepard told Mrs. Cavalieri that Steven was upset during his interview; (2) that Mrs. Cavalieri told Shepard that Steven should be on suicide watch; (3) that Shepard knew that Steven had been on suicide watch only a month before; and (4) that Rouse told Shepard that Steven had warned her that he would kill himself if he was ever returned to the jail.

Shepard argues that the fact that Steven had no weapon with him and was under the CCCF’s custody trumps the testimonial evidence of the information he had at his disposal. Unfortunately, these precautions are not always enough to prevent this kind of event. Although weapons are obviously not permitted in jails and prisons, there are high rates of suicide in prisons (higher than in the general population), and even higher rates among pretrial detainees. See, e.g., Jutzi-Johnson v. United, States, 263 F.3d 753, 757 (7th Cir.2001). As a result, prisons and jails have developed procedures for dealing with prisoners who display suicidal tendencies, such as removing items that could be used as a suicide weapon, like sheets or a sturdy telephone cord, or not leaving those prisoners unattended.

Shepard’s deposition testimony that he did not think Steven was on the verge of suicide is also not enough to eliminate a genuine issue of fact. We recognize that “strange behavior alone, without indications that that behavior has a substantial likelihood of taking a suicidal turn, is not sufficient to impute subjective knowledge of a high suicide risk to jail personnel.” Estate of Novack ex rel. Turbin v. County of Wood, 226 F.3d 525, 529 (7th Cir.2000). Indeed, had no one informed Shepard that Steven was at risk of suicide, this would be a different case. But both Mrs. Cavalieri and Rouse testified that they had alerted Shepard to this specific risk. Shepard was not forced to operate only on the basis of a brief observation, cf Mathis v. Fairman, 120 F.3d 88, 91-92 (7th Cir.1997) (odd or unusual behavior without more did not place officers on notice that a detainee was at risk for suicide when the officers were unaware of any suicidal tendencies in the detainee). In the present posture of this case, we must take as a given that Shepard was aware that Steven had been arrested for attempting to kill both himself and Rouse, and that he had learned from both women that Steven was at risk for suicide.

Even assuming that Shepard knew about Steven’s suicidal inclinations, Mrs. Cavalieri cannot prevail on Steven’s claim unless she can also establish that Shepard acted with deliberate indifference to this risk. Deliberate indifference “describes a state of mind more blameworthy than negligence,” and “something less than acts or omissions ... with knowledge that harm will result.” Farmer, 511 U.S. at 825, 114 S.Ct. 1970. Applying a subjective recklessness test, the Court in Farmer found that “a prison official cannot be found liable under the Eighth Amendment for denying an inmate humane conditions of confinement unless the official knows of and disregards an excessive risk to inmate health or safety.” Id. at 837, 114 S.Ct. 1970. The same holds for a pretrial detainee’s claim under the Fourteenth Amendment. Although this is a “high hur-*622die for a plaintiff,” Peate v. McCann, 294 F.3d 879, 882 (7th Cir.2002), he “need not show that a prison official acted or failed to act believing that harm actually would befall an inmate; it is enough .that the official acted or failed to act despite his knowledge of a substantial risk of serious harm.” Farmer, 511 U.S. at 842, 114 S.Ct. 1970.

Shepard insists that he did all that was required of him, and that even on the record taken in the light most favorable to Steven, no reasonable trier of fact could find that he was deliberately indifferent to Steven’s suicide risk. He focuses on two specific actions he took: first, his telephone call to Steven to “check on his welfare” and tell him that his mother was coming to see him, and second, his offer to Mrs. Cavalieri to help her arrange for Steven to see a counselor. Of course, Shepard was not required to take perfect action or even reasonable action, even assuming he was aware of the suicide risk; his action must be reckless before § 1983 liability can be found. Chapman v. Keltner, 241 F.3d 842, 845 (7th Cir.2001). On the other hand, Mrs. Cavalieri is not required to show that Shepard intended that Steven harm himself. Boncher v. Brown County, 272 F.3d 484, 487 (7th Cir.2001). On this record, we conclude that the facts taken most favorably to Mrs. Cavalieri would show that Shepard was deliberately indifferent to Steven’s safety. Indeed, if we consider Mrs. Cavalieri’s version of events, Shepard may have deliberately misled her. He told her that Steven would not be alone and he also behaved as if he understood the severity of the information she provided him regarding Steven’s mental health, yet he did not even take immediate measures that would have been quite easy for him, such as passing her warnings along to the CCCF staff. Perhaps Mrs. Cavalieri would have gone directly to the CCCF if she had known that Shepard did not intend to inform anyone of their conversation. Moreover, Shepard had multiple opportunities to present this information to the CCCF. His two calls to the CCCF demonstrate the ease with which he could have conveyed the information after Steven was transferred. Perhaps a jury would not believe this version, but on this record, a jury could find that Shepard’s actions were reckless.

B

Having established that Mrs. Cava-lieri has alleged facts that, if proven, show that Shepard violated a constitutional right, we must still address Shepard’s argument that he is entitled to qualified immunity because the constitutional right Steven is asserting was not clearly established at the time of these events. Saucier, 533 U.S. at 201, 121 S.Ct. 2151. Whether a right is clearly established “must be undertaken in light of the specific context of the case, not as a broad general proposition.” Id. The right must be clear enough that “a reasonable official would understand that what he is doing violates that right.” Id. at 202, 121 S.Ct. 2151. Although the officer must have knowledge of the right, it is not necessary that a case be “on all fours” with this one for the case to go to a jury. Montville v. Lewis, 87 F.3d 900, 902 (7th Cir.1996). Instead, the question we must ask is whether the law provided Shepard with “fair warning” that his conduct was unconstitutional. Hope v. Pelzer, 536 U.S. 730, 122 S.Ct. 2508, 2516, 153 L.Ed.2d 666 (2002) (rejecting the Eleventh Circuit standard that a previous case must be “fundamentally similar” to be clearly established).

Although Shepard and Mrs. Cava-lieri differ over how the constitutional right should be characterized, we agree *623with the district court that at bottom, the right Mrs. Cavalieri asserts on behalf of Steven is the right to be free from deliberate indifference to suicide. There is no doubt that this right was clearly established prior to Steven’s 1998 suicide attempt. See Hall v. Ryan, 957 F.2d 402, 406 (7th Cir.1992).

Shepard argues, however, that the present case represents an extension of earlier law because Steven was transferred from the custody of the Champaign Police Department (his employer) to the custody of the CCCF, a county facility. He likens this case to Collignon v. Milwaukee County, 163 F.3d 982 (7th Cir.1998), in which this court found that Milwaukee County was not responsible for the suicide of a pretrial detainee who killed himself after being released to his parents. The most important difference between Collignon and this case, however, is that in Collignon the detainee left state custody upon his transfer, and here Steven remained in state custody. Nothing in Collignon implies that the court was establishing a general rule of non-liability for transferees. In fact, Shepard’s argument implies that he did not have to pass along any information to his colleagues in the county jail. No responsible officer in Shepard’s position would have taken such a position. If Steven had been armed, Shepard could not have stayed silent and waited to see if the CCCF officials found the weapon; if Steven was prone to violent outbursts, Shepard similarly could not have left his colleagues and the other county detainees at Steven’s mercy. While there are different arms of state government, the walls between them are not as high as Shepard implies. To the contrary, each must keep the other informed about material facts, including suicide risks. See Farmer, 511 U.S. at 832, 114 S.Ct. 1970 (officials required to take adequate measures in response to known risk); see also View v. Bufano, 901 F.Supp. 1387, 1394 (N.D.Ill.1995) (adequate measures include communicating likely suicide risk to transferee correctional facility). Even the Collignon court conceded that it would have been facing a different problem if the officials had known that the detainee was a likely suicide risk. Id. at 990.

Of course, the law did not require Shepard to sit by the telephone all day, communicating with the CCCF about transferred prisoners. The question is what he was supposed to do in the face of the knowledge of a life-threatening situation that he actually had. He made several telephone calls to the CCCF, but he passed by the opportunity to mention that he had been informed that Steven was a suicide risk, and that the jail itself had recognized this only a month earlier. If Shepard had known that a detainee had an illness that required life-saving medication, he would also have had a duty to inform the CCCF, or any other entity that next held custody over the detainee. See Egebergh v. Nicholson, 272 F.3d 925, 927-28 (7th Cir. 2001) (denying a qualified immunity defense where police officers knew that the arrestee was an insulin-dependent diabetic, knew that such people need regular insulin injections, knew that the failure to give injections was potentially fatal, and nonetheless failed to make sure the injections were given, with fatal consequences).

We conclude that the law as it existed at the time of Steven’s suicide attempt provided Shepard with fair notice that his conduct was unconstitutional. Hope, 122 S.Ct. at 2516. The rule that officials, including police officers, will be “liable under section 1983 for a pre-trial detainee’s suicide if they were deliberately indifferent to a substantial suicide risk,” Hall v. Ryan, 957 F.2d 402, 406 (7th Cir.1992), was clearly established prior to 1998. The fact that several state agencies were working to*624gether on his case, and that Steven happened to attempt suicide in the county’s facility rather than at the police station, does not change this analysis.

Ill

The judgment of the district court is Affirmed.