I concur in the judgment of reversal, but for the reasons hereinafter stated, I am of the opinion that such reversal should be accompanied with directions to enter judgment in favor of the defendants.
This is another of a series of recent appeals involving the same fundamental question, namely, the nature of the duty owed by the landowner to the trespassing child with respect to the condition of the landowner’s premises. While I agree with the majority that “the evidence does not bring the case within the rule set forth in section 339 of the Restatement of Torts,” I am further of the opinion that the reversal should be squarely based upon the decisional law of this state involving comparable situations in connection with building materials or with buildings under construction such as Knight v. Kaiser Co., 48 Cal.2d 778 [312 P.2d 1089] ; Lopez v. Capitol Co., 141 Cal.App.2d 60 [296 P.2d 63] ; Saba v. Jacobs, 130 Cal.App.2d 717 [279 P.2d 826] ; and Camp v. Peel, 33 Cal.App.2d 612 [92 P.2d 428]. Such reversal finds added support in numerous other “former cases,” only a few of which need be cited. (Melendez v. City of Los Angeles, 8 Cal.2d 741 [68 P.2d 971] ; Peters v. Bowman, 115 Cal. 345 [47 P. 113, 598, 56 Am.St.Rep. 106] ; Wilford v. Little, 144 Cal.App.2d 477 [301 P.2d 282] ; Lake v. Ferrer, 139 Cal.App.2d 114 [293 P.2d 104]; Ward v. Oakley Co., 125 Cal.App.2d 840 [271 P.2d 536] ; Betts v. City & County of San Francisco, 108 Cal.App. *1142d 701 [239 P.2d 456]; Demmer v. City of Eureka, 78 Cal.App.2d 708 [178 P.2d 472]; King v. Simons Brick Co., 52 Cal.App.2d 586 [126 P.2d 627] ; Beeson v. City of Los Angeles, 115 Cal.App. 122 [300 P. 993]; Reardon v. Spring Valley Water Co., 68 Cal.App. 13 [228 P. 406]; Polk v. Laurel Hill Cemetery Assn., 37 Cal.App. 624 [174 P. 414].)
While the reversal ordered by the majority here is entirely consistent with the long line of “former cases,” I am of the opinion that such reversal is inconsistent with the majority opinions in Reynolds v. Willson, 51 Cal.2d 94 [331 P.2d 48], and Courtell v. McEachen, 51 Cal.2d 448 [334 P.2d 870], I discussed the inconsistency of the Reynolds and Courtell opinions with the “former cases” in my dissenting opinion in those eases, and need not repeat that discussion here. Suffice it to say that each of those eases, like the present one, involved only a common, obvious risk rather than some uncommon or concealed risk such as had been previously required to bring the condition within any recognized exception to the general rule which limits the duty owed by the landowner to the trespassing child.
If the well-considered rules established by the “former eases” are to be disregarded upon the ground that they put cases “in rigid categories on the basis of the type of condition involved,” then the majority should expressly disapprove those eases, rather than being content with giving them passing reference and leaving to possible conflicting implications the question of whether those cases are being approved or disapproved. However, it should be stated in this connection that a legal principle which is supported by sound reason and abundant authority, should not be disregarded merely because it may impart a fair degree of certainty, or even rigidity, to an important phase of the law. Adherence to well-considered and well-established guiding principles makes for stability in the law while, on the other hand, the jumping from case to ease, without following any consistent pattern and without regard for established principles, can only create endless confusion.
The guiding principle established by the “former eases” prevented the imposition of liability upon the landowner in favor of the trespassing child when the risk encountered was one which was “common and obvious.” (See dissenting opinion in Reynolds v. Willson, supra, 51 Cal.2d 106.) An objective standard was applied in determining as a matter of law whether any particular risk was “common and obvious,” and *115that standard was properly determined in the light of common knowledge that “There are some dangers common in the community which any child o£ sufficient age to be allowed at large may be expected to understand and appreciate. ...” (Prosser on Torts, 2d ed., p. 441.) The majority opinion here indicates that there are other “variable factors” to be considered, including “the age” and “mental capacity” of the particular child trespasser. No support for this view is to be found in any of the former eases,” and any such rule would obviously place upon the landowner the wholly unjustifiable burden of making his premises safe for trespassing children who are of insufficient age or mental capacity to be allowed at large.
It may be conceded, as the majority opinion declares, that “There is no inflexible rule which would exclude liability in every case involving building materials or buildings under construction, and each such case must be judged on its own facts.” No such “inflexible rule” has been declared in any of the “former eases,” and no such rule has been suggested in any of the recent dissenting opinions. On the contrary, it has been generally recognized that there may be uncommon or concealed risks in connection with building materials or buildings under construction, but it is clear that the “ordinary conditions, presenting only common and obvious danger or risk of harm to the trespassing child, are not of the type which has heretofore been held to fall within ’ ’ any exception to the general rule so as to permit the imposition of liability upon the landowner. (Reynolds v. Willson, dissenting opinion, supra, 51 Cal.2d 106, 114.)
There are but few cases cited in the majority opinion which have not been previously discussed in the dissenting opinions in the Reynolds and Courtell cases, and those few cases are generally in line with the other “former cases.” Woods v. City & County of San Francisco, 148 Cal.App.2d 958 [307 P.2d 698], cited by the majority, merely held that “The defendant’s demurrer was properly sustained but it should not have been sustained without leave to amend.” (P. 966.) In so ruling, however, the court recognized the established rule that there could be no recovery by the trespassing child if “there was no novel or hidden danger.” (P. 963.)
The majority also cites Morse v. Douglas, 107 Cal.App. 196 [290 P. 465], where a trailer containing a vat of hot tar was left “in the street” with the tongue “resting upon a pile of sand in the space between the sidewalk and the curb” (p. 198) and in a position where the trailer might be easily “tipped *116backwards” (p. 199), thereby spilling the hot tar. The judgment for plaintiff was properly affirmed, as the equipment obviously “provided an uncommon danger.” (P. 202.)
The Cahill eases cited by the majority (Cahill v. E. B. & A. L. Stone & Co., 153 Cal. 571 [96 P. 84,19 L.R.A. N.S. 1094], and Cahill v. E. B. & A. L. Stone Co., 167 Cal. 126 [138 P. 712]) also involved an accident which occurred upon the street, rather than upon private premises. The defendant left a push-ear heavily loaded with steel rails on a track in the street, where there was a slight grade, “unguarded by any person, uninclosed, unlocked, and unfastened, without any brake or device for stopping it when started.” (153 Cal. 572.) The judgment imposing liability there was properly affirmed upon the analogy to the “turn-table cases” (153 Cal. 573; 167 Cal. 136), which cases obviously present something other than a risk which is “common and obvious.”
The case of Edler v. Sepulveda Park Apts., 141 Cal.App.2d 675 [297 P.2d 508], cited in the majority opinion, is not in point, as plaintiff’s parents were tenants in one of defendant’s 60 apartments; and plaintiff was injured by falling in a hole dug by defendant in the lawn surrounding the apartments where the children were accustomed to play. Thus, the child was not a trespasser.
The ease of Long v. Standard Oil Co., 92 Cal.App.2d 455 [207 P.2d 837], also cited by the majority, was discussed to some extent in my dissent in the Reynolds ease. (Reynolds v. Willson, supra, 51 Cal.2d 106, 116.) It should be added, however, that the court there declared that ‘ ‘ The instructions drew a proper distinction between conditions which are open and obvious and those that are concealed or hidden.” (P. 463.)
Thus, with the possible exception to be hereinafter noted, none of the cases cited in the majority opinion or in the briefs sustain the reasoning employed by the majority here or the reasoning employed by the majority in the Reynolds and Courtell cases with respect to the fundamental question involved. The exception above mentioned is the case of Copfer v. Golden, 135 Cal.App.2d 623 [288 P.2d 90]. That case was relied upon by the respondent, the trial court, and the District Court of Appeal in the Reynolds case. (See Reynolds v. Willson (Cal.App.), 308 P.2d 464.) Similiar reliance was placed upon the Copfer case here. (See Garcia v. Soogian, (Cal.App.) 319 P.2d 742.) In my opinion, the Copfer ease and its erroneous interpretation of section 339 of the Restatement of Torts should be disapproved. (See dissenting opinion in *117Reynolds v. Willson, supra, 51 Cal.2d 106.) The Copfer case cannot be reconciled with the “former cases,” and it certainly cannot be reconciled with the majority’s reversal in this case. Nevertheless, no mention whatever has been made of the Copfer case in the majority opinion here or in the majority opinions in the Reynolds or Courtell cases. In the absence of any mention of the Copfer ease or of any adequate discussion of the “former cases,” it therefore becomes difficult, if not impossible, to determine the full implication of any of these recent majority opinions. Hence, the bench and bar will still be required to speculate upon at least two important questions. First, is the majority impliedly approving or, on the other hand, “disapproving the former eases,” as advocated by the dissenting Justices in Knight v. Kaiser Co., supra, 48 Cal.2d 778, 785? Second, is the majority impliedly approving or disapproving the decision in Copfer v. Golden, supra, 135 Cal.App.2d 623, and its erroneous interpretation of section 339 of the Restatement of Torts ?
The confusion which is following in the wake of the Copfer ease is again illustrated by the decision of the trial court here. Apparently following the holding and accepting some of the reasoning of that ease, the trial court made only a finding of “a reasonable risk” rather than “an unreasonable risk” of harm, as required by section 339. Similar confusion will inevitably continue until such time as the majority may clarify the situation by expressly disapproving the Copfer ease and by reaffirming the well-considered rules established by Knight v. Kaiser Co., supra, 48 Cal.2d 778, and the long line of “former cases” upon which it was based. But regardless of whether the majority may see fit to approve or disapprove the Copfer case, or to approve or disapprove the “former eases” as well as Knight v. Kaiser Co., supra, the position of the majority should be made clear. The existing chaos will only be perpetuated by continuing to quote section 339 of the Restatement of Torts without adequately discussing its relation to the “former cases,” and then resting upon the truism that “recovery is granted or denied depending on the facts of each case.” (Reynolds v. Willson, supra, 51 Cal.2d 94, 106.) Just as the conflict between the two divergent lines of cases and the conflict between the varying constructions placed upon section 339 become more apparent with the filing of each decision, so the duty of this court to resolve those conflicts becomes more imperative. Clarification could be easily accomplished by frankly recognizing the conflict and by meeting *118the issue squarely; but until that is done, the bench and bar will be compelled to journey on insecure footing over uncertain legal ground in a perplexing situation similar to that described by Justice Learned Hand when he said: “It is quite impossible to establish any rule from the decided cases; we must step from tuft to tuft across the morass.” (Hutchinson v. Chase & Gilbert, 45 F.2d 139, 142.)
For the reasons stated, and for the added reason that there is no suggestion that any further evidence could be adduced which would justify the imposition of liability upon the defendants, I would reverse the judgment with directions to the trial court to enter judgment in favor of the defendants.
Schauer, J., and McComb, J., concurred.