dissenting.
The majority would affirm the conviction of Gawron and uphold his probation condition by the expediency of embarking upon a discussion of the validity of his “voluntary and intelligent” waiver. Left with only a cursory discussion is the probation condition itself and the question of its “reasonable” intrusion upon Gawron’s Fourth Amendment rights. The provision of probation here at issue goes far beyond being a reasonable intrusion of Gawron’s rights.
Strangely, the majority has chosen a path in a direction opposite to the recent well-reasoned opinion of the supreme court of our neighboring state to the east in State v. Fogarty, 187 Mont. 393, 610 P.2d 140 (1980), where that court had before it a similar probationer search condition. The court noted that a waiver theory is an improper justification for the probation conditions:
Regardless of the condition imposed, if that is the sentencing court’s decision, the probationer has little or no say in the matter. He can refuse to accept the conditions imposed and go to prison, or he can accept the conditions and remain in society subject to the State’s supervision for the probationary period. A waiver theory however, does not comport with the requirements of Johnson v. Zerbst (1938), 304 U.S. 458, 58 S.Ct. 1019, 82 L.Ed. 1461, that a waiver is invalid unless it be made knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily. A choice cannot be termed voluntary where the alternative is prison and even more restrictions. Id. at 147 (emphasis added).
In a similar fashion Arizona has recognized the probationer’s plight in “waiving” his Fourth Amendment rights:
The waiver theory, which presumes consent to the terms of probation by the defendant, presents consent in more of a nominal than real sense. The damoclean choice of imprisonment would rarely be chosen over probation, even if the probationer must accept severe inroads on protections afforded by the Bill of Rights. State v. Page, [115 Ariz. 131] 564 P.2d 82 (Ariz.Ct.App.1976).1
The Fogarty court next recognized that in dealing with inviolable constitutional rights, the probation conditions must come under a “special scrutiny.” This duty to scrutinize was noted in United States v. Consuelo-Gonzalez, 521 F.2d 259 (9th Cir.1975):
[I]t must be recognized that probationers, like parolees and prisoners, properly are subject to limitations from which ordinary persons are free, it is also true that these limitations in the aggregate must serve the ends of probation. Conditions that unquestionably restrict otherwise inviolable constitutional rights may properly be subject to special scrutiny to determine whether the limitation does in fact serve the dual objectives of rehabilitation and public safety. 521 F.2d at 265.
The language of Gawron’s probation condition is even broader than that found in Consuelo-Gonzalez which there was: “submit to search of her person or property at any time when requested by a law-enforcement officer,” id. at 261 n. 1, and as broad as that of Fogarty: “submit to search of his person, premises or vehicles at any time by lawful authorities.” 610 P.2d at 144. Both of these courts noted that such unfettered power to search did not serve the ends of probation:
*845[T]he condition imposed on Consuelo-Gonzalez literally permits searches which could not possibly serve the ends of probation. For example, an intimidating and harassing search to serve law enforcement ends totally unrelated to either her prior conviction or her rehabilitation is authorized by the terms of the condition. Consuelo-Gonzalez, supra, 521 F.2d at 265.
The search provision imposed here would permit not just the probation officer but any “lawful authorities” to search the probationer’s home, his person, or his vehicle, at any time, and in any place and manner, and for no other reason than the mere whim or caprice of whomever decided to conduct a search. In Tamez v. State (Tex.App.1976), 534 S.W.2d 686, the Court struck down a warrantless search provision in all essentials similar to the one under attack in this case. In holding the search provision too broad in scope and thus in violation of the probationer’s Fourth Amendment rights (as well as a violation of the Texas Constitution) the court aptly characterized its effect:
“The condition imposed would literally permit searches, without probable cause, or even suspicion, of the probationer’s person, vehicle or home at any time, day or night, by any peace officer, which could not possibly serve the ends of probation. For example, an intimidating and harassing search to serve law enforcement ends totally unrelated to either his prior conviction or his rehabilitation is authorized by the probationary condition.” 534 S.W.2d at 692.
We can say no less about the effect of the warrantless search provision imposed in this case; it permitted any law enforcement official to search the defendant, his home, or his vehicle, whenever the mood struck. Such a provision is too great an infringement upon the probationer’s rights under the federal and state constitutions. Fogarty, supra, 610 P.2d at 149.
The provision which the majority upholds creates the same potential for abuse and is the same broad intrusion on Gawron’s Fourth Amendment rights. Oregon has reached the same result as Fogarty in considering such “search” conditions. State v. Fisher, 32 Or.App. 465, 574 P.2d 354 (1978); State v. Thomas, 33 Or.App. 69, 575 P.2d 171 (1978); State v. Holm, 34 Or.App. 503, 579 P.2d 860 (1978); State v. Batson, 35 Or.App. 175, 580 P.2d 1066 (1978).
The “ends of probation” which Consuelo-Gonzalez refers to are the ultimate reformation and rehabilitation of the probationer. Any diminution of Fourth Amendment rights is justified only by the legitimate demands of the probation process. These demands include the protection of society but should not involve law enforcement or peace officers viz a viz probation officers in the probation process.
[T]he police are not part of the probation process. They have no direct responsibility to supervise probation or to facilitate rehabilitation of the defendant. Their primary responsibility is to ferret out crime and to prosecute the offender. In the give and take of plea negotiations the district attorney does not necessarily have rehabilitation in mind when negotiating the terms of probation. He may simply be attempting to facilitate future investigation of crimes. State v. Hovater, 37 Or.App. 557, 588 P.2d 56, 59 (Or.Ct.App.1978).
The majority notes that the probationer has a reduced expectation of privacy, but, as observed by the Fogarty court, there is an overriding need to balance the rights of society against the probationer’s and third parties’ expectation of privacy. The unlimited bounds of Gawron’s probation condition could inevitably lead to an invasion of the privacy of third parties associated with Gawron, be they family, relatives, or friends:
We can only assume a “respectable position” if we can give fair consideration to the rights of innocent third parties who may be caught up in the web of *846the probationary system or probationary process. These people are not stripped of their right of privacy because they may be living with a probationer or he may be living with them. While a probationer’s right of privacy may be justifiably diminished while on probation, the rights of these people are not so diminished. We, as well as the trial courts, would be derelict in our duties if we failed to consider the rights of these innocent others so that they are not swept away by the probationary process. Fogarty, supra, 610 P.2d at 151.
The majority’s language fails to give even the slightest consideration, nay, even mention of, the effect Gawron’s probation conditions may have on innocent third parties.
The acceptable scope for a consent to search condition should be either limited to the probation officer himself or a law enforcement officer at the direction of the probation officer. An example was given in State v. Page:
That the defendant submit to a search of her person or property conducted in a reasonable manner at a reasonable time by a probation officer or peace officer at his direction where the probation officer has reasonable grounds to believe that a violation of probation has occurred or is about to occur. Page, supra, 564 P.2d at 85.
Another acceptable form would be the version found in Gawron’s signed State of Idaho State Board of Correction Agreement of Probation which provided: “4. Consent to search, seizure and chemical testing at the request of his probation officer for possession or use of controlled substances, possession of contraband or evidence of crime, and possession of a dangerous or deadly weapon.” Gawron has by it agreed to consent to a search and, if Gawron refuses to so consent upon the request of his probation officer, then Gawron can expect that the probation officer may report the violation, and the probation will be revoked.2
Both of the mentioned forms differ from the one selected by the majority in the majority’s establishing any or no limitation on the role of those outside the probation process, namely the police. We all recognize, as did the Court in Page, that information leading to the search may originate from the police. If this information points to suspected probation violations, then the probation officer or, if so designated, a law enforcement officer at the probation officer’s direction can search the probationer. This has removed the majority’s “carte blanche authority” to search the probationer whether related to the probation or not. See Page, supra, 564 P.2d at 85. There is not much in the majority opinion to commend it as erudite wisdom which the public should embrace.
An additional concern here is the conflict of the various probation orders and agreements which Gawron was required to sign which included both an “Order Suspending Sentence and Order of Probation” and a “State of Idaho State Board of Correction Agreement of Probation.” A disturbing situation exists in the apparent conflict between the two. They both list special conditions for the probationer but only the court order contains the troublesome condition discussed previously. The State of Idaho form has the look of a standardized form but also an add-on section for special conditions, here incorrectly photocopied to be “cial conditions.” Clerical errors aside, I perceive a problem of ambiguity. Which of the two controls the conditions of probation? How is the probationer to know, meaning to rise up to the knowledge of a legally trained person, with exactitude the restrictions to which he is subjected? Probation terms that fail to precisely and adequately inform the probationer of his rights and restrictions cannot in good faith be called reasonable, and missing, also, is the requirement of governmental forewarn*847ing. Noting the ambiguity or vagueness created by the overkill of probation orders and agreements, then that which Shepard, J., wrote a few years ago is pertinent, where he observed from his reading of United States v. Harriss, 347 U.S. 612, 617, 74 S.Ct. 808, 812, 98 L.Ed. 989 (1954), that “this notion of ‘fair notice or warning’ ... is said to require reasonably clear guidelines to prevent arbitrary and discriminating enforcement____” State v. Lopez, 98 Idaho 581, 586, 570 P1.2d 259, 264 (1976).
The largest concern with today’s majority opinion is its rather autocratic disregard of respectable authority from our neighboring western states and also the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals3 which encompasses Idaho and those other states. The majority embarks upon no attempt to refute the reasoning of those courts, nor to point out any features distinguishing the cases before those other courts from the one presented to us.
. The Supreme Court of Arizona later vacated State v. Page in State v. Page, 115 Ariz. 156, 564 P.2d 379 (1977), on other grounds and left the probationary condition issue to be discussed. In a later case, State v. Montgomery, 115 Ariz. 583, 566 P.2d 1329 (1977), it did so, and went on to authorize warrantless searches in limited situations:
We agree that in a great majority of cases the trial court should not require, as a condition of probation, that the probationer submit to a search and seizure without warrant by any police officer____ If there is a need because of distance or time, the probation officer can always authorize such a warrantless search by the police officer____ Warrantless searches by police officers, however, should be sparingly given. Id. 566 P.2d at 1331 (emphasis added).
. This is substantially less severe and less offensive than having law enforcement officers slap Gawron (and all other Gawrons) over the hood of a car and search at will on the basis of a previous outright consent to be searched at any time and any place.
. Of added interest are the number of judges deciding these cases. Consuelo-Gonzalez was heard before a panel of thirteen circuit judges: Chambers, Merrill, Koelsch, Browning, Duniway, Ely, Hufstedler, Wright, Trask, Choy, Goodwin, Wallace and Sneed. The Montana case, Fogarty, was decided by seven justices. Final score: 16 to 4 in favor of promoting rehabilitation as against decimating its altruistic and admirable objectives. A legitimate concern is why any member of this Court, giving the benefit of prior decision law on the same subject, is so loathe to even concede that there are good legal minds in other jurisdictions, and those legal minds have already shown the route to take and paved it well.