This is a petition for declaratory judgment brought against Hugh Gallen, as Governor, by certain members of the General Court in their capacity as president of the senate, speaker of the house, chairman and vice-chairman of the legislative fiscal committee and as individual taxpayers. The plaintiffs seek a judicial declaration that the creation of twelve new positions within the Governor’s office, proposed in connection with a federally funded comprehensive children and youth project, is unlawful absent prior legislative fiscal committee review and approval. See RSA 14:30-a; Laws 1979, 434:22. The case is before this court on an interlocutory transfer by the Superior Court {Johnson, J.) pursuant to RSA 491:17 and our Rule 9.
In March 1979, the Governor submitted “the state of New Hampshire’s proposal to create a comprehensive youth service agency” to federal authorities. (Emphasis added.) On June 1, 1979, the Governor’s office was awarded $286,000 in federal funds for that purpose by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, Department of Justice. On September 6, 1979, the Governor, pursuant to Laws 1979, 434:22, submitted a request to the legislative fiscal committee for approval of. twelve new personnel positions which would result from the acceptance of the federal funds. The fiscal committee denied the Governor’s request, and the Governor now seeks to establish the same positions without the approval of the fiscal committee.
On October 10, 1979, the Governor requested the executive council to approve acceptance of the federal grant under RSA 124:4. The executive council approved the fund request on October 16, and designated the office of the Governor as the appropriate recipient with certain conditions. The comptroller of the State of New Hampshire then issued a warrant appropriating funds for the grant, specifying that the funds be added to the program appropriation unit for the Governor’s office. The Governor proposes to appoint to his personal staff, to supervise and to control, those persons employed to fill the positions established by receipt of the federal grant funds. In addition, the Governor *335intends that these persons will not only carry out the terms of the grant, but also be assigned by the Governor the principal duties of reviewing current State policies and programs affecting the lives of New Hampshire youth, analyzing the need for alternate or additional policies or programs on a statewide basis, and advising the Governor as to the most effective means of improving and developing State policies and programs related to youth.
The questions of law transferred to this court without ruling are:
I. Do the proposed new federally funded positions in the office of the Governor related to children and youth fairly come within the meaning of the exception for the Governor’s “personal staff and consultants” found in Laws 1979, 434:22 so as to make legislative fiscal committee approval of those positions unnecessary to their valid establishment?
II. If the answer to question I is “No,” are the provisions of Laws 1979, 434:22 void as an unconstitutional encroachment by the legislature upon the powers vested in the chief executive by the New Hampshire Constitution?
We first consider the question of whether the establishment of the new federally funded positions relating to children and youth within the Governor’s office comes within the “personal staff and consultants” exception to required legislative fiscal committee approval. Laws 1979, 434:22.
Laws 1979, 434:22 provides that “no new personnel positions, except those . . . for personal staff and consultants, may be created by the acceptance of federal monies . . . unless such positions are approved by the fiscal committee of the general court . . . .” It is clear, therefore, that the Governor, with the concurrence of the executive council, can apply for, receive and use federal funds to establish new positions on his “personal staff” without the need for fiscal committee approval. Plaintiffs claim, however, that the “personal staff and consultants” exception does not apply to the de facto creation of a “state agency” within the Governor’s office. Relying upon legislative history, they argue that the exception was intended to apply only to persons acknowledged as being on the Governor’s staff, within his office, performing administrative, receptionist and clerical tasks, not those performing essentially “agency” functions within agencies created by gubernatorial executive order.
*336Proper interpretation of this statute, Laws 1979, 434:22, requires both an understanding of its constitutional context and the history surrounding its adoption. This court has recognized the Governor’s constitutional power to create “agencies” by executive order. Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. 582, 587, 392 A.2d 125, 129 (1978); Jeannont v. N.H. Personnel Comm’n, 116 N.H. 376, 359 A.2d 638 (1976). The exercise of that power, however, cannot “exceed the Governor’s constitutional authority or conflict with appropriate legislative mandates. . . .” Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 587, 392 A.2d at 129; O’Neil v. Thomson, 114 N.H. 155, 316 A.2d 168 (1974).
The General Court, having the authority under N.H. Const. pt. 2, art. 5, to create or abolish nonconstitutional agencies, officials or positions, enacted Laws 1979, 434:22. The effect of this statute is to place limitations upon the power of the executive branch to accept federal grants-in-aid under RSA ch. 124 when acceptance will result in the creation of new personnel positions. It was adopted as a result of the legislature’s concern that the executive could, without prior legislative approval, create State agencies by executive order, thereby creating new positions entailing express or implied future burdens upon the State budget.
The transcript of the committee of conference on the 1978-1979 State budget contains extensive discussion by its members regarding the intent behind Laws 1977, 600:112. Such discussions can often serve as an aid to the courts in construing a statute. See 2A Sutherland, Statutory Construction § 48.10 (4th ed. 1973). Speaker Roberts said the concern was not with personal staff but “the concern is about the creation of agencies . . . [with] some continuing obligations to pay for them.” After preparing language to deal with this problem, the legislators permitted the Governor only to hire “personal staff and consultants.” The president of the senate, in response to a question from Chairman Tucker of the house appropriations committee as to the “legislative intent,” said that while “a new agency” would need fiscal committee approval, gubernatorial “personal staff and consultants” would not.
While recognizing the reasons for legislative concern in this area, the Governor responds that in this instance he has not created an executive order agency and argues that, unlike persons hired to fill newly created agency positions, appointees to his “personal staff” do not represent a potential burden on the State *337treasury. This is so because they have no expectation of continued employment beyond the present Governor’s term of office; they have no rights, privileges or permanent benefits under the classified system and are not unclassified employees subject to removal proceedings in accordance with RSA 4:1 (Supp. 1979). Cf. Jeannont v. N.H. Personnel Comm’n, 116 N.H. 376, 359 A.2d 638 (1976).
There is, however, in the record before us an abundance of evidence which indicates that the closely integrated positions to be created under the comprehensive youth services grant are, because of their unitary purpose, scope and number, in fact an entity more analogous to a State agency, created either by executive order or statute, than to individual members of a gubernatorial staff. The grant as approved by federal authorities pledges “complete state financial support” beginning with fiscal year 1982. Further, the program and office being created would exist for a period of three years, a period transcending both gubernatorial and legislative terms of office.
We further note that the 1979 legislature reenacted with substantial amendments specific authorization for an executive branch agency to deal with the problems of children and youth. RSA 170-D:4 (Supp. 1979) provides that the commission on children and youth shall:
I. Research and identify the needs of children and youth in New Hampshire.
II. Review state services and policies affecting children and youth, identify problems, and recommend solutions.
III. Review and recommend appropriate legislative initiatives to promote the welfare of children and youth.
IV. Assist other agencies and individuals in assessing and improving the quality and availability of services to children and youth in New Hampshire.
V. Promote participation by young people and parents in all commission activities.
Money was appropriated and then the legislature provided in section 5 that “every effort shall be made to apply for federal funds for carrying out the purposes of RSA 170-D . . . .” Laws 1979, 472:5. These purposes closely parallel those of the grant at *338issue. The scope and kind of “legislative activity” that we find here distinguishes this case from that found in Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. 582, 392 A.2d 125 (1978). It is not unlike that found to exist in O’Neil v. Thomson, 114 N.H. 155, 316 A.2d 168 (1974), which required us to void certain executive actions found to conflict with legislative intent.
The Governor’s actions in effect create another agency to deal with children and youth, thereby circumventing the power of the legislature to oversee federal funds. See Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. 7, 15-16, 381 A.2d 1204, 1209 (1978). This court has cautioned that:
Unless proper regard is given to the respective roles of the policy-making legislature and the administrative Governor, the “legislative branch of our State government would have little or no role to play with respect to Federal aid programs with the corollary result that the executive branch in the name of supreme executive power would not be faithfully executing the laws of this Commonwealth but rather, as it saw fit, seeking and administering Federal aid programs free of any check or balances and with little political accountability for such actions.”
Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 15, 381 A.2d at 1209; citing Shapp v. Sloan, 27 Pa. Commw. Ct. 312, 367 A.2d 791, 797 (1976).
However commendable the Governor’s purpose in initiating this project, the executive cannot act so as to “conflict with appropriate legislative mandates. . . .” Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 587, 392 A.2d at 129; see Opinion of the Justices, 116 N.H. 406, 413, 360 A.2d 116, 122 (1976); O’Neil v. Thomson, 114 N.H. at 163, 316 A.2d at 173.
We hold that the Governor is, in fact, creating a State “agency” under the protective umbrella of a narrow exception that is intended to apply only to his personal staff. A finding by this court that the agency established by the executive under this grant properly falls within the Laws 1979, 434:22, exception for “personal staff” would set a precedent whereby the executive could, through the tandem use of RSA ch. 124 and RSA 4:12, proceed to establish, without any legislative action or oversight, an entirely separate entity of State government on his “personal *339staff.” We find that such a result would be contrary to the laws of the State of New Hampshire.
The answer to the first question is “No.”
We now consider the question whether the provisions of Laws 1979, 434:22 unconstitutionally encroach upon powers vested in the chief executive pursuant to N.H. Const. pt. 2, art. 41.
In recent years, there has been a rapid and dramatic growth in federal funds coming into the State. Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 13, 381 A.2d at 1207. Because much of this money is received during the year-and-a-half interim when the General Court is not in session, the executive has taken a greater role in policy decisions. It was this development which, in part, resulted in the enactment of Laws 1977, 600:112 reenacted verbatim as Laws 1979, 434:22.
This court has recognized the power of the legislature to adopt legislation in order to preserve its function as the policy-making branch of our State government. Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 15, 381 A.2d at 1209, citing with approval Shapp v. Sloan, 27 Pa. Commw. Ct. 312, 367 A.2d 791, 797 (1976). In that opinion, this court cited the predecessor to the provision under consideration as one of a variety of legislative approaches to the structuring and spending of federal funds. Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 15-16, 381 A.2d at 1209.
It is clear that N.H. CONST, pt. 1, art. 37 provides that the three branches of government ought to be kept as “separate from, and independent of, each other, as the nature of a free government will admit.” It has long been recognized in this State, however, that the three branches of government cannot be completely separate and that there must be some overlapping. Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 585, 392 A.2d at 127-28. With that in mind, this court has specifically found the fiscal committee of the General Court to be a proper administrative committee to act as a legislative watchdog and that said committee is not unconstitutional merely because it is composed of members of the General Court. Opinion of the Justices, 110 N.H. 359, 364-65, 266 A.2d 823, 826-27 (1970). In Laws 1979, 434:22, the General Court has authorized the fiscal committee to be its administrative arm for purposes of ensuring its role in policy-making.
Because Laws 1979, 434:22 specifically exempts new positions on the personal staff of the Governor from the *340requirement of fiscal committee approval, it does not constitute an unconstitutional encroachment by the legislature on the power of the chief executive to fulfill “his constitutional functions and duties.” See Opinion of the Justices, 118 N.H. at 587, 392 A.2d at 129. The majority recognizes the issue presented is a difficult one and that any administrative activities delegated to the legislative fiscal committee come within the twilight zone of constitutionality. N.H. Const. pt. 1, art. 37.
The answer to the second question is “No.”
We are, of course, not unmindful of the need for cooperation between the legislative and executive branches of government to assure that the best interests of our State’s children and youth are met.
Remanded.
GRIMES, C.J., and King, J., dissented; the others concurred.