(dissenting). I respectfully dissent. In our original opinion, we affirmed the grant of summary disposition, concluding that there was no genuine issue of material fact with respect to the issue whether the danger was open and obvious.1 My colleagues are now willing to grant rehearing and conclude that the open and obvious danger doctrine is no longer viable in light of the adoption of comparative negligence.21 am not.
I recognize that the majority’s decision is consistent with a number of recent decisions of this Court. See Pressley v VFW Memorial Home, Inc, *710185 Mich App 709; 462 NW2d 830 (1990); Riddle v McLouth Steel Products Corp, 182 Mich App 259; 451 NW2d 590 (1990); Forche v Gieseler, 174 Mich App 588; 436 NW2d 437 (1989). I also recognize that these cases were incorrectly decided and are directly contradictory to the well-developed law of this state and centuries of tort law.
I was a member of the panel which decided Pressley, supra, and vigorously objected to the conclusion that the adoption of comparative negligence somehow magically increased a landowner’s duty to his invitees and licensees:
First, and foremost, the Supreme Court reiterated the open and obvious dangers doctrine as recently as 1988 in Williams [v Cunningham Drug Stores, Inc, 429 Mich 495; 418 NW2d 381 (1988)] some nine years after adopting comparative negligence in Placek v Sterling Heights, 405 Mich 638; 275 NW2d 511 (1979). Second, it is for the Supreme Court, not this Court, to overrule Supreme Court precedent. See People v Mitchell, 428 Mich 354, 369-370; 408 NW2d 798 (1987). Third, considerations of stare decisis aside, comparative negligence does not itself directly involve issues of duty or breach of duty. Rather, it deals with the proper and just apportionment of fault, and responsibility, where both the plaintiff and the defendant are negligent. Comparative negligence does not, however, create negligence where none existed before that doctrine was adopted. That is, the adoption of comparative negligence did not create duties where none existed before.
Rather, the more fundamental question is what duty is owed by a possessor of land to his invitees and licensees. Our Supreme Court has long held that no further duty is owed by a possessor of land to an invitee or licensee once the invitee or licensee is aware of the alleged dangerous condition. The Supreme Court’s having defined the duty, it is for the Supreme Court, and not this Court, to redefine that duty, if a redefinition is even in *711order. [Pressley, supra at 712-713 (Sawyer, J., dissenting).]
The majority in the case at bar repeats the mistake of these prior cases: it confuses the concept of duty with the doctrine of comparative negligence and reaches the erroneous conclusion that comparative negligence can somehow change the nature of the duty owed. In order to establish that a defendant is liable in a negligence action, it must be shown that the defendant owed a legal duty to the plaintiff and that he breached that duty. Roulo v Automobile Club of Michigan, 386 Mich 324, 328; 192 NW2d 237 (1971). It therefore necessarily follows that if the defendant does not owe the plaintiff a duty, or did not breach a duty which was owed, the defendant is not negligent.
If the defendant is not negligent, it also necessarily follows that comparative negligence is not an issue. That is, if the defendant is not negligent, then there is obviously no negligence of the defendant to compare with the plaintiffs own negligence. Rather, the only explanations available are that the plaintiffs injuries were due to the plaintiffs own negligence, to the negligence of a third party, or to a pure accident which was not the fault of anybody. In any event, absent negligence by the defendant, there is no liability of the defendant.
Thus the question which must be addressed in the case at bar is the nature of the duty owed by defendants to plaintiff. That is, what is the duty owed by a possessor of land to his invitees? The duty owed by a possessor of land to his invitees is black-letter law and is set forth in 2 Restatement Torts, 2d, § 343, pp 215-216:
A possessor of land is subject to liability for *712physical harm caused to his invitees by a condition on the land if, but only if, he
(a) knows or by the exercise of reasonable care would discover the condition, and should realize that it involves an unreasonable risk of harm to such invitees, and
(b) should expect that they will not discover or realize the danger, or will fail to protect themselves against it, and
(c) fails to exercise reasonable care to protect them against the danger.
It is also black-letter law that a possessor of land is not liable for known or obvious dangers:
A possessor of land is not liable to his invitees for physical harm caused to them by any activity or condition on the land whose danger is known or obvious to them, unless the possessor should anticipate the harm despite such knowledge or obviousness. [2 Restatement Torts, 2d, § 343A, p 218.]
The comment in the Restatement further explains this limitation of the landowner’s liability:
Reasonable care on the part of the possessor therefore does not ordinarily require precautions, or even warning, against dangers which are known to the visitor, or so obvious to him that he may be expected to discover them. Illustration:
1. The A company has in its store a large front door, made of heavy plate glass. The door is well lighted and plainly visible, and its existence is obvious to any person exercising ordinary attention and perception. B, a customer in the store, while preoccupied with his own thoughts, mistakes the glass for an open doorway, and runs his head against it and is injured. A company is not liable to B. [2 Restatement Torts, 2d, § 343A, comment e, pp 219-220.]
The open and obvious danger doctrine is also *713discussed in Prosser & Keeton, Torts (5th ed), § 61, p 427:
Likewise, in the usual case, there is no obligation to protect the invitee against dangers which are known to him, or which are so obvious and apparent that he may reasonably be expected to discover them. Against such conditions it may normally be expected that the visitor will protect himself.
Further, this principle has been recognized by the Supreme Court as recently as its decision in Williams, supra at 500:
The duty a possessor of land owes his invitees is not absolute, however. It does not extend to conditions from which an unreasonable risk cannot be anticipated or to dangers so obvious and apparent that an invitee may be expected to discover them himself.
Even if the majority is correct that this observation in Williams is dicta, and therefore not binding, the majority fails to acknowledge that the principle espoused in Williams has been long established in the law. Williams reflects that the Supreme Court, unlike the majority in the case at bar, is willing to acknowledge that fact.
While it does not appear that the Supreme Court has clearly adopted § 343A of the Restatement in a case other than Williams, it did embrace the general standard of the duty owed to an invitee under § 343 of the first Restatement in Ackerberg v Muskegon Osteopathic Hosp, 366 Mich 596, 599-600; 115 NW2d 290 (1962). Similarly, it looked to §343 of the second Restatement in the case relied upon by the majority, Quinlivan v Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Co, Inc, 395 Mich 244, 258-*714261; 235 NW2d 732 (1975).3 Furthermore, the Court adopted § 342 of the Restatement in Preston v Sleziak, 383 Mich 442, 453; 175 NW2d 759 (1970), in defining the duty owed by a possessor of land to a licensee, including the proposition that there is no duty owed if the licensee knows or has reason to know of the condition involved. It is, therefore, clear to me that the open and obvious danger doctrine is part of the jurisprudence of this state as adopted by the Supreme Court. As such, the majority lacks the authority to rule otherwise. Mitchell, supra at 369-370.
Alternatively, even if it can be concluded that *715our jurisprudence may embrace §§ 342 and 343 of the Restatement without adopting § 343A, the adoption of § 343 by the Supreme Court is sufficient to conclude that defendants in the case at bar owe no duty to plaintiff with respect to plaintiff’s injuries. Under that section, a possessor of land is liable for injuries caused to an invitee by a condition on the land only if the condition involves an unreasonable risk to the invitee. Ackerberg, supra at 600. Furthermore, § 343 of the second Restatement, which was quoted with approval in Quinlivan, supra, makes it clear that a possessor of land is liable only if he should expect that the invitee will not discover the danger himself. I cannot conclude that a handicap ramp poses an unreasonable risk to invitees. Buildings open to the public are required to be accessible to the handicapped. Therefore, an invitee must expect to encounter a handicap ramp somewhere on the premises. It is, therefore, not unreasonable to expect that an invitee will be on the lookout for the ramp and watch where he is walking. In other words, I do not find it unreasonable to expect that an invitee to a restaurant will discover a handicap access ramp without the use of warning signs or paint.
For the reasons stated above, I would conclude that a possessor of land owes no duty to an invitee with respect to an open and obvious danger, that is, a condition of the land of which the invitee is aware or of which the invitee can reasonably be expected to be aware. Thus, the only question presented in the case at bar is whether the handicap access ramp constitutes an open and obvious condition. We concluded in our original opinion that the condition here was open and obvious, a conclusion with which I still agree. Accordingly, defendants owed no duty to plaintiff to warn of the *716handicap ramp. Since defendants owed no duty, they were not negligent. Since defendants were not negligent, the comparative negligence doctrine is inapplicable.
I would still affirm.
Judge Murphy, however, dissented, concluding that there was a genuine issue of material fact.
In fact, the majority declares the open and obvious danger doctrine to be irrational:
A rule of law which provides that a business invitor who creates or allows an open and obvious danger on his premises has no duty to its invitees to correct it because it is open and obvious is not rational. [Ante at 708.]
The reliance by the majority on Quinlivan, supra, is curious. The majority opinion states:
Rather, questions concerning the conduct of the invitee and the obviousness of the danger as they relate to whether either the invitor or the invitee, or both, were negligent are better resolved by the trier of fact. Riddle, supra. Cf. Quinlivan v Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Co, Inc, 395 Mich 244, 261; 235 NW2d 732 (1975). [Ante at 708-709.]
How Quinlivan supports this proposition is unclear inasmuch as comparative negligence was not adopted in Michigan until more than three years later in Placek v Sterling Heights, 405 Mich 638; 275 NW2d 511 (1979). Quinlivan, supra at 261, states that the invitee’s conduct will often be relevant in the context of contributory negligence. Quinlivan concluded that ice and snow hazards are not obvious to all and an invitor must exercise reasonable care to diminish these hazards. Thus, the Court found that a duty on the part of the defendant existed under the facts of that case, not that the comparative negligence doctrine applied. In fact, Quinlivan stands in opposition to the majority’s position, not in support of it.
Further, while the majority is correct that the obviousness of a danger is a question for the trier of fact (so long as a genuine issue of material fact exists with respect to the obviousness), that does not negate the fact that once it is determined that the danger is obvious, the defendant is not liable because he is not negligent because no duty was owed. The trier of fact determines the obviousness of the danger not to resolve issues of comparative negligence, but to determine whether a duty was owed to the plaintiff. If the danger was obvious, then no duty was owed and the defendant was not negligent. If the danger was not obvious, then a duty was owed and the trier of fact may then, and only then, consider questions of comparative negligence, causation, and so on.