People v. Lopez CA5

Filed 11/19/15 P. v. Lopez CA5

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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT

THE PEOPLE,
F067545
Plaintiff and Respondent,
(Tulare Super. Ct. No. VCF266448)
v.

GEORGE LUIS LOPEZ, OPINION
Defendant and Appellant.

THE COURT*
APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Tulare County. Joseph A.
Kalashian, Judge.
Danalynn Pritz, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
Appellant.
Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General, Michael P. Farrell, Assistant Attorney
General, Carlos A. Martinez and Jamie A. Scheidegger, Deputy Attorneys General for
Plaintiff and Respondent.
-ooOoo-

* Before Poochigian, Acting P.J., Detjen, J. and Franson, J.
 George Luis Lopez (Lopez) was convicted of three counts of committing a lewd
and lascivious act against a child under the age of 14. Two of the counts were found to
violate Penal Code section 288, subdivision (b)(1),1 and one count was found to violate
section 288, subdivision (a). Because of enhancements, Lopez was sentenced to a term
of 15 years to life in prison.
Lopez argues he received ineffective assistance of counsel for two separate
reasons. We find no merit to these claims and affirm the judgment. We agree with the
parties, however, that the abstract of judgment must be corrected, and will order the trial
court to prepare an abstract of judgment that is consistent with the oral pronouncement of
judgment.
FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL SUMMARY
The Information
The information charged Lopez with eight counts of violating section 288,
subdivision (b)(1), committing a lewd or lascivious act on a child under the age of 14
through the use of force or fear. The victim in each count was T.Y. The ninth count of
the information charged Lopez with violating section 288, subdivision (a), committing a
lewd or lascivious act on a child under the age of 14. The victim in this count was J.M.
Each count alleged Lopez was subject to a sentence of 15 years to life pursuant to section
667.61, subdivision (b) because the alleged crime is listed in subdivision (c)(4) of section
667.61 and because there were multiple victims as specified in subdivision (e)(4) of
section 667.61. Counts four, five, six, eight and nine also alleged Lopez was statutorily
ineligible for probation because there was substantial sexual conduct pursuant to the
provisions of section 1203.066, subdivision (a)(8).

1 All further statutory references are to the Penal Code unless otherwise noted.

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 Trial Testimony
The testimony of the complaining witnesses was presented in three parts—police
interview, child abuse response team (CART) interview, and trial testimony.
T.Y.’s Testimony
Interview with Officer Joshua Peña
Officer Joshua Peña interviewed T.Y. at her elementary school shortly after her
parents reported the molestation. T.Y. appeared calm during the interview, and she was
able to distinguish between the truth and a lie. T.Y. told Peña that Lopez had touched her
inappropriately the previous day. T.Y. explained that Lopez had picked her up, along
with his daughter, from school and had taken them home. Mrs. Lopez came home at
some point. Around 5:00 p.m. Mrs. Lopez and her daughter left the house, leaving T.Y.
and Lopez at the home. T.Y. was watching television when Lopez joined her on the
couch. T.Y. went to the bathroom. When she returned, Lopez maneuvered himself so
that T.Y. ended up sitting on his lap. He then placed his hand under her shirt and bra,
touching her breasts. T.Y. told Lopez she wanted to go outside to play, but he made
excuses as to why she could not do so. T.Y. could not leave because Lopez had his arm
around her waist. After approximately 10 to 15 minutes, Lopez let T.Y. go and she ran to
the bathroom. When she returned to the living room, T.Y. sat on the couch. Somehow
T.Y. again ended up sitting on Lopez’s lap. This time Lopez placed his hand inside
T.Y.’s pants, outside of her underwear. Lopez rubbed T.Y.’s private area. T.Y. asked
Lopez to stop on three different occasions. Lopez let T.Y. go when her mother arrived.
During the interview, T.Y. said similar incidents had occurred on approximately
two previous occasions, but she could not describe those incidents. T.Y. told Peña she
did not report the contact sooner because Lopez was a long-time family friend.
CART Interview
T.Y.’s CART interview occurred on February 1, 2006 (exh. 12A). T.Y. was 10
years old at the time of the interview. The interviewer confirmed that T.Y. knew what

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the truth was and told her it was important to tell the truth during the interview. T.Y.
then explained what occurred on January 30, 2006. T.Y. stated she was friends with
Lopez’s daughter, M. Lopez had picked the girls up from school. Later that afternoon
M. left for basketball practice with her mother. T.Y. was watching a movie when Lopez
sat down with her.
T.Y. went to the bathroom. When she returned, she accidentally sat on Lopez’s
lap. Lopez put his hand up T.Y.’s shirt and felt her breast area. Lopez had one hand
around T.Y.’s waist, so her efforts to get away initially were unsuccessful. T.Y. asked
Lopez to stop several times. T.Y. finally got away and returned to the bathroom, where
she stayed for five to 10 minutes.
When T.Y. returned she ended up on Lopez’s lap again, although she was not sure
how that occurred. This time Lopez put his hands down T.Y.’s pants for about five to 10
minutes. Lopez’s hand was on top of T.Y.’s underwear. T.Y. was unsure what part of
her anatomy Lopez was touching. T.Y.’s mother picked her up a short while later.
When asked whether this was the only time such an incident had occurred, T.Y.
said similar incidents had occurred around four times before, although she could not
provide any details of those other incidents, including when they had occurred or where
Lopez had touched her. T.Y. did recall that after the first incident, Lopez told her to not
tell anyone, which was why she kept quiet until she told her mother about the
molestations the morning after the last incident. She believed three other incidents
occurred when she was nine years old. T.Y. told her parents because she did not want to
have to go through another incident.
Interview with Detective Chris Jennings
T.Y.’s interview with Detective Chris Jennings occurred on October 27, 2011
(exh. 1A), which was five years after the initial report of the molestation. T.Y. explained
that she would go to Lopez’s house after school while her parents worked. She also

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explained that M. participated in various activities, and M.’s mother would take M.,
leaving T.Y. with Lopez until her mother picked her up.
The first incident recalled by T.Y. occurred when she was in the fourth grade.
T.Y. enjoyed talking and wrestling with Lopez. The first incident occurred when T.Y.
ended up on the floor as they were wrestling and her pants came unbuttoned. Lopez
pulled her pants down and her shirt up, exposing T.Y., but he did not touch her. Lopez
told T.Y. to not tell her parents and then gave her a chocolate bar as a bribe.
T.Y. could not recall any details of the other incidents that had occurred, except
for the last incident, but told Jennings that the molestation happened repeatedly. The last
incident occurred when T.Y. was sitting on the couch in Lopez’s house. T.Y. was in the
fifth grade. The incident occurred on the day before T.Y. reported the molestation.
Lopez was watching television when T.Y. entered the room. Lopez told T.Y. to sit on his
lap. Lopez put his hands underneath T.Y.’s shirt and touched her breast area. T.Y. went
to the bathroom, where she stayed for a while. Eventually, T.Y. went back into the living
room and again sat on Lopez’s lap because she feared “repercussions” if she did not do
so. Lopez placed one hand on T.Y.’s shirt and the other hand on her stomach. Lopez
moved one hand down T.Y.’s pants near her vagina.
As she conversed with Jennings, T.Y. recalled an incident where she spent the
night with M. During the night she woke up to find Lopez with his hand up her shirt.
T.Y. estimated Lopez had molested her approximately twice a week for two years.
T.Y. would try to get away, but Lopez would hold onto her. T.Y. also would tell Lopez
to stop, but without success. After the molestations, Lopez would give her candy.
Defense counsel noted the transcript of the interview was inaccurate in several places.
Trial Testimony
T.Y. was 17 at the time she testified at trial. She had met Lopez through his
daughter, M. T.Y. and M. were best friends through the fifth grade. While in grade
school, T.Y.’s mother usually dropped her off at school and Lopez would pick her up and

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either take her to his house with M. or take her to her grandmother’s house. Usually the
girls did homework or watched television after school. T.Y.’s mother would pick her up
on her way home from work.
Lopez first touched T.Y. inappropriately when she was in the third grade. M. had
gone somewhere with her mother. Lopez was playing with T.Y. when her pants
accidentally came unbuttoned. When T.Y. went to button them, Lopez said, “Don’t.”
Lopez then pulled down her pants and underwear and pulled her shirt up. After a short
time he pulled the shirt down and the pants up and apologized to her. He did not touch
her that time. Lopez told T.Y. to not tell her parents and then bribed her with a candy
bar.
Another incident occurred while T.Y. was doing homework on M.’s bed. T.Y.
thought she was probably in the fourth grade. While T.Y. was doing her homework,
Lopez came into the room and lay on the bed with her. He was talking to T.Y. about how
someday someone would kiss her. When Lopez got up to leave the room, he kissed T.Y.
on the lips.
Another instance occurred when T.Y. spent the night with M. The two were
asleep in M.’s bed. T.Y. woke up to find Lopez with his hand up her shirt. T.Y.
pretended to be asleep, and Lopez soon left. This occurred when T.Y. was approximately
nine or 10, the same age as the previous incident.
The last incident occurred when T.Y. was in the fifth grade. Lopez picked up T.Y.
and M. after school. M. and her mother then left for an activity. T.Y. initially was doing
homework. When she came into the living room, she had a feeling Lopez would touch
her, so she went into the bathroom and hid, hoping her mother would arrive to take her
home. When she came out, Lopez told T.Y. to sit on his lap. T.Y. complied. Lopez put
one hand up T.Y.’s shirt and touched her breast and one hand down her pants and
touched her vagina. T.Y. was able to get away when Lopez allowed her to go play with
the dog. The next morning T.Y. told her mother about the incident.

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 While T.Y. was not able to recall any other specific incidents where Lopez had
touched her inappropriately, she did recall he had done so on a regular basis from
approximately the third grade onward. T.Y. testified she believed Lopez had touched her
vagina more than five times during this period.
T.Y. did not tell her parents before the last incident because Lopez told her to not
do so, and she was afraid of being judged or blamed for the incidents.
J.M.’s Testimony
Police Interview
The prosecutor played to the jury the statement J.M. gave to police officers on
September 25, 2011 (exh. 15A). In this statement the officer first confirmed that J.M.
knew the difference between the truth and a lie. The officer next asked J.M. if there were
areas where she should not be touched. J.M. indicated she should not be touched on her
vaginal area or on her buttocks, although it was difficult to be sure from the transcript of
the interview.
The officer asked J.M. what she would do when she visited her aunt. She said she
would play with Lopez’s daughter, M. J.M. initially denied playing with a computer and
denied Lopez had done anything to make her feel bad. J.M. also indicated that no one
had touched her in places she should not have been touched. J.M. stated she was not
afraid of her aunt and uncle. The following colloquy then occurred.

“OFFICER: I was … talking to your mom and your mom said that … you
told her that someone touched you in your foof.2

“[J.M.]: It was nino George.

“OFFICER: It was nino George? Yeah? Okay. Why did he touch you
there?

“[J.M.]: I don’t know.

2 “Foof” is the word used by J.M. to describe her vagina.

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 “OFFICER: You don’t know? Did he touch you when he had your—your
[underwear] on? Or did he touch you underneath your
[underwear]?

“[J.M.]: He touched me and I had my [underwear].

“OFFICER: On? Okay. Did—what—what did he tell you when he did
that?

“[J.M.]: Nothing.”
J.M. then explained that she was with Lopez in “the room” playing games on
Lopez’s computer. M. was in her room, and J.M.’s mother and two aunts were in the
kitchen cooking. This was the only time Lopez touched her vagina.
CART Interview
J.M.’s CART interview also was played for the jury (exh. 2A). In the relevant
portions of this interview, J.M. confirmed she was four years old and had five sisters.
She described her family, including the family pets. J.M. initially denied anything had
happened to her that she wanted to talk about. When asked if anyone had hurt her or had
done anything to her, she stated that the kids at school hit her occasionally.
The interviewer then directed the conversation to good and bad touches. J.M.
knew the difference between good touches (hugs and kisses) and bad touches (being hit
or pinched). J.M. denied knowing about “secret touches”—where someone would touch
J.M. where they were not supposed to and then tell J.M. to keep it a secret. The
following colloquy then occurred:

“[INTERVIEWER]: No? Um, have you—has anyone ever touched you
where they’re not supposed to?

“[J.M.]: (Inaudible).

“INTERVIEWER]: Is that a yes or a no?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Mm-hmm? Okay. Well, who’s touched you where
they’re not supposed to?

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 “[J.M.]: Um, um, right here.

“INTERVIEWER]: Right there?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“INTERVIEWER]: Okay. Well, did you know that we all have private
places?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: And private parts on our body that other people aren’t
supposed to touch? Did you know that?

“[J.M.]: Uhn-uhn.”
The interviewer next produced a diagram of a girl and had J.M. identify the
various body parts. The interviewer asked J.M. if anyone had touched her on certain
parts of her body (eyes, mouth, and belly button) and then asked:

“[INTERVIEWER]: No? What about on your foof? Has anybody tried to
touch you on your foof?

“[J.M.]: Uhn-uhn.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Has anybody ever asked if they could touch your foof
or tried or—or …

“[J.M.]: The police told me that’s not where you touch people.

“[INTERVIEWER]: The police told you that?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: How—why did you talk to the police?

“[J.M.]: Um, ‘cause (inaudible) person touched that and the
butt.

“[INTERVIEWER]: One person touched that and the butt?

“[J.M.]: No. Somebody—Uncle Nino, he touches me on the
foof.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Your Uncle Nino touches you on the—on the foo-
foos?

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“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: So he did it one time or more than one time?

“[J.M.]: One time.

“[INTERVIEWER]: One time? Can you tell me exactly what he did when
that happened?

“[J.M.]: We were playing a Barbie Girl game on his computer and he
touches me when I need help on my foofies.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Okay. So were you on the computer? Were you
sitting at the computer when he touched you on your foof?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Okay. Was there anybody else with you?

“[J.M.]: Um, no. Just Nino.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Just Nino?

“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Were you at his house on his computer?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Or somewhere else?
“[J.M.]: At Nino’s house.
“[INTERVIEWER]: And you said you needed help on it?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.
“[INTERVIEWER]: And what did you need help with?

“[J.M.]: I tried to put tried to make with the computer stuff and
(inaudible) cookies.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Okay. So … did you ask Nino for help?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: What did you say when you asked him for help? What
did you tell him?

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“[J.M.]: I get off the chair and I get to go get Nino and he was coming
with me and then he tried to stop it but I can’t. And so—
“[INTERVIEWER]: He—you tried to stop him but you can’t?
“[J.M.]: Uhn-uhn. (Inaudible) said stop.
“[INTERVIEWER]: What—what were you trying to stop?
“[J.M.]: Him touching my foof.
“[INTERVIEWER]: How did he touch it?
“[J.M.]: Um, right there.
“[INTERVIEWER]: What did he touch it with?
“[J.M.]: His, um, hand.
“[INTERVIEWER]: His hand?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Did his hand stay on top of your clothes like this? Or
did it go inside, underneath?
“[J.M.]: Inside.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Inside?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: What were you wearing when he touched your foof?
Do you remember what clothes you had on?
“[J.M.]: I had, um, (inaudible) shirt and shorts.
“[INTERVIEWER]: And shorts?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Did you have anything on underneath your shorts?
“[J.M.]: Um, [underwear].
“[INTERVIEWER]: [Underwear]?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: So when Nino touched your foof did he touch you on
your [underwear]?
“[J.M.]: No.
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“[INTERVIEWER]: Or did he touch you on your skin?
“[J.M.]: Inside my [underwear].
“[INTERVIEWER]: Inside your [underwear]?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.

“[INTERVIEWER]: What did that feel like when he touched your foof?
What did it feel like to your foof?
“[J.M.]: I don’t know.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Um, when he had his hand on your foof did he move
his hand around or did he just keep it still?
“[J.M.]: Just kept it still and he took it out.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Did he say anything when he—when he touched your
foof?

“[J.M.]: I was going to ask him something and (inaudible) but he
won’t.

“[INTERVIEWER]: Did you say anything to him when he touched your
foof?
“[J.M.]: Mm-hmm.
“[INTERVIEWER]: What’d you say?
“[J.M.]: Um, I said stop.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Did he stop when you told him to stop?
“[J.M.]: Uhn-uhn.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Did he say anything back to you?
“[J.M.]: Hmm—
“[INTERVIEWER]: Did he answer you?

“[J.M.]: He answered me but, um, he was trying to look on the
computer for a different game.
“[INTERVIEWER]: How did he answer you?
“[J.M.]: Um, he didn’t answer me.
“[INTERVIEWER]: Okay. Has—has he ever done that before?
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 “[J.M.]: (Inaudible.)
“[INTERVIEWER]: Or was that the only time?
“[J.M.]: That was the only time.”
The interview continued for a short while confirming the above constituted the
relevant facts. The interviewer also confirmed J.M.’s account by asking, “You said
earlier that he touched your foof and your butt. Is that right or did I get that wrong?”
J.M. replied, “No, you get it wrong. He only touched my foofie.” When the interviewer
asked when the incident occurred, J.M. replied, “Um, yesterday. He touched my
foofies.”3 J.M. also stated she was currently four years old and that the incident occurred
when she was three. The interviewer confirmed that J.M. knew the difference between
the truth and a lie, but she did not ask J.M. if she had been truthful throughout the
interview.
Trial Testimony
J.M. testified. She could not identify Lopez. She denied anyone had touched her
vagina and denied telling her mother or a police officer that someone had done so.
Law Enforcement Testimony
Peña interviewed Lopez after he interviewed T.Y. Lopez denied anything
inappropriate occurred with T.Y.
Jennings interviewed Lopez regarding the allegations made by J.M. Lopez
admitted that J.M. came to his house regularly, and he played with her when she was
there. He also admitted that J.M. played on his computer, and he assisted her at times.
He denied that J.M. ever sat on his lap while playing on the computer and denied ever
having inappropriate contact with J.M. Lopez suggested the whole incident may have
been a “misunderstanding or a family issue.”

3 The incident occurred several days before, so clearly J.M. was mistaken on the
date of the incident.

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 Jennings testified that during the CART interview, J.M. could distinguish between
the truth and a lie, but she never was instructed to tell the truth during the interview. J.M.
was not asked (1) if a lie was bad, (2) if she would be punished if she told a lie, (3) if she
would not be punished if she told the truth, (4) if she would get into trouble if she lied, or
(5) if her mother had told her to tell the truth.
Lopez’s computer was seized and searched, but nothing of evidentiary value was
found on it.
Witness Testimony
Michelle M. testified she is Lopez’s niece. J.M. is her younger sister. She
confirmed that Lopez would pick her up from school, along with M. and T.Y. She also
confirmed that Lopez’s wife, Delores, would take her and M. to dance and volleyball
classes and T.Y. would stay at the Lopez home with Lopez.
Michelle also recalled a day when her parents were very upset and an officer came
to their house. Michelle asked what had happened, and her father told her that Lopez had
touched J.M. Michelle asked J.M. what had happened. J.M. stated she had been sitting
on Lopez’s lap while playing on the computer and Lopez touched her vagina inside of her
shorts.
M.R. is J.M. and Michelle’s mother. Lopez’s wife is M.R.’s aunt. M.R. related
that in 2011 J.M. told her that Lopez had touched her inappropriately. J.M. was four at
the time. M.R. was working on her computer when J.M. came into the room. The two
began talking and J.M. asked M.R. why she had given her a hug. M.R. explained about
good and bad touches and told J.M. that no one should ever touch her “privates.” That
was when J.M. said that Lopez had done so when J.M. was playing on the computer.
J.M. said she was sitting on Lopez’s lap when Lopez touched her vagina inside of her
shorts. M.R. then called the police and reported the incident.
M.R. heard about the allegations made by T.Y. against Lopez in 2006 when the
police interviewed Michelle. M.R. was told by either Lopez or his wife that the

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allegations were the result of a misunderstanding. Since Lopez was not prosecuted at the
time, M.R. believed the allegation was a misunderstanding.
M.R. also admitted Lopez had loaned her money in the past, but claimed she did
not have any issues with Lopez before she learned of J.M.’s allegation.
T.Y.’s mother explained that her family had become friends with Lopez’s family
because their daughters became school friends beginning in kindergarten. Eventually,
T.Y.’s mother began taking both girls to school in the mornings, and Lopez would pick
them up from school in the afternoons. Lopez would then babysit until T.Y.’s mother
ended her work day, usually between 5:30 and 5:45 p.m. This arrangement continued
until T.Y. told her mother she was being molested by Lopez.
On the morning of January 31, 2006, T.Y.’s mother was lying in bed when T.Y.
came into the room and asked if she (T.Y.’s mother) had ever been verbally, physically,
or sexually abused. Mother became concerned and T.Y. explained that she had been
molested by Lopez. Mother did not ask many questions because she wanted the police to
investigate without her interference. Later that morning Lopez dropped off his daughter
so T.Y.’s mother could take both girls to school. While at the house, Lopez whispered
something to T.Y. that her mother could not hear, which was found to be a bit unusual by
T.Y.’s mother. After dropping the girls off at school, T.Y.’s parents went to the police
station to report the molestation.
T.Y.’s father testified in a manner similar to T.Y.’s mother’s testimony in all
relevant areas.
Defense Evidence
Kathy Bates testified she had known Lopez for over 30 years, and she had never
seen him act inappropriately with a child, and, in her opinion, he would not do so.
Kathy Bates’s daughter testified she had known Lopez her entire life, and he had
never acted inappropriately around her. She also opined that Lopez would not act
inappropriately with children.

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 Catalina L. a friend of M.’s, testified that Lopez never acted inappropriately with
her. Nor, in her opinion, would he ever do so with other children.
Michaella H. lived in the same neighborhood as Lopez in her youth. She first
became friends with M. and later the whole family. She testified that Lopez was more of
a father to her than her own father, and that she thought the world of him. Lopez never
touched her inappropriately, and, in her opinion, he would not touch anyone
inappropriately.
Lopez’s brother, Freddie Lopez, provided some background information about
Lopez. He testified that he had never seen Lopez act inappropriately around children.
Nor, in his opinion, would Lopez do so.
Lopez’s wife, Delores, denied that during the relevant time periods she ever left
the home to run errands. Delores also claimed that she often took T.Y. to T.Y.’s
mother’s place of work when she (Delores) took M. to her activities. Delores testified
that she was always either at home with T.Y. and M. or she would take T.Y. to her
mother’s place of employment when she took M. to an activity. According to Delores,
T.Y. was never at home alone with Lopez. Lopez never asked Delores to leave T.Y. at
home with him when she took Marissa to an activity, nor did Lopez ever take T.Y. any
place by herself. T.Y. never gave an indication she was uncomfortable at the Lopez
house or did not want to be there, nor did T.Y. ever appear to be avoiding Lopez.
Delores claimed that shortly before T.Y. made the accusations, T.Y.’s mother
became pregnant with twins, and this upset T.Y.
On the day T.Y. alleged she was molested by Lopez, Delores found M., T.Y., and
Lopez at home when she returned from work. M. had basketball practice at 6:00 p.m.
Delores left at approximately 6:00 or 6:10 p.m. to take M. to basketball practice, leaving
T.Y. with Lopez. This was the only time Delores ever left T.Y. with Lopez.
Delores never saw Lopez act inappropriately with any children. Nor, in her
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 Delores also admitted that J.M. would come to visit at her house on a fairly regular
basis. J.M. spent most of the time with M. Lopez never asked to have J.M. brought to
the house. Lopez was there at times, and Delores would see Lopez helping J.M. on the
computer. However, J.M. never sat on Lopez’s lap while he was helping her on the
computer.
J.M.’s mother, M.R., asked to borrow money from the Lopezes in early 2011 on at
least two occasions. The Lopezes loaned her over $2,000. However, when M.R. asked
to borrow over $4,000 in August, Lopez refused to do so. M.R. became upset.
M. testified in a manner consistent with her mother’s testimony about J.M.’s visits
to the Lopez house. She also testified in a manner consistent with her mother’s testimony
about T.Y.’s visits to the Lopez house.
M. never saw her father do anything that made her feel uncomfortable around T.Y.
or any other child. She never saw T.Y. avoid Lopez, nor did T.Y. say she did not want to
come over to her house. M. confirmed that the only time T.Y. was alone with Lopez was
on the day of the last alleged incident.
Lopez’s sister-in-law, M.R. Nicacio, testified that she had never seen Lopez act
inappropriately with children, and, in her opinion, he would never do so.
Sanjeer Dheri is the store manager of a local chain drug store at which T.Y. used
to work. T.Y. resigned after an investigation was started into whether she was stealing
from the company. T.Y. was purchasing items that were delineated as “register reward”
items. Register rewards essentially are a coupon that is received when an item is
purchased and the coupon can be used for future purchases. T.Y. would then return the
purchased items to another store but retain the coupon, which the company considered
stealing. When she was confronted, T.Y. stated she no longer wished to be employed or
be a burden to the store and resigned. T.Y. claimed she did not believe what she was
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 Closing Arguments, Verdict, and Sentencing
The prosecution relied on T.Y.’s testimony to assert Lopez was guilty of each
charged crime and enhancement. Defense counsel argued there was insufficient evidence
to support any count, noting the inconsistencies between the statements made by T.Y. and
J.M. and their trial testimony. Defense counsel also argued that the failure to ask J.M. if
she told the truth throughout her recorded interview rendered the interview unreliable.
After several days of deliberations, the jury found Lopez guilty of counts seven,
eight, and nine. Counts seven and eight were the last incident perpetrated on T.Y. that
occurred on January 30, 2006. Count nine involved the incident involving J.M. In
addition to finding Lopez guilty of these charges, the jury found the multiple victim
allegation true for each count, and found true that there was substantial sexual conduct
related to count eight. The jury could not reach a verdict on the remaining counts, which
eventually were dismissed.
The trial court sentenced Lopez to a term of 15 years to life on each count, with
the sentences on counts seven and eight imposed concurrently to the sentence on count
nine.
DISCUSSION
I. J.M.’s Testimony
Prior to trial, defense counsel objected to J.M.’s trial testimony on the grounds that
she was incompetent to testify as a witness pursuant to the provisions of Evidence Code
section 701.4 Defense counsel argued that because of her age, J.M. could not express
herself to a jury and she did not understand the duty of a witness to tell the truth. Defense

4Evidence Code section 701 states: “(a) A person is disqualified to be a witness if
he or she is: [¶] (1) In capable of expressing himself or herself concerning the matter so
as to be understood, either directly or through interpretation by one who can understand
him; or [¶] (2) Incapable of understanding the duty of a witness to tell the truth. [¶] (b)
In any proceeding held outside the presence of a jury, the court may reserve challenges to
the competency of a witness until the conclusion of the direct examination of that
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counsel requested an Evidence Code section 402 hearing for this purpose. As we read the
record, defense counsel objected only to J.M.’s testifying at trial.
The trial court denied the request for an evidentiary hearing and denied the motion
after hearing J.M.’s testimony. We also note defense counsel did not cross examine J.M.,
nor did he ask to voir dire J.M. on her qualifications to testify as a witness. Considering
her trial testimony provided no incriminating evidence against Lopez, defense counsel
likely concluded that any questions he asked would not help the defense and possibly
would lead to testimony that would incriminate Lopez. Lopez does not challenge the trial
court’s ruling on this issue.
Lopez argues, however, defense counsel was ineffective because he failed to
object to the introduction of J.M.’s statements to the police and in the CART interview
pursuant to the provisions of Evidence Code section 1360.5 Defense counsel cited this
code section in his motion for a new trial, and the prosecutor cited this code section in his
motions in limine when arguing that the taped interviews of both T.Y. and J.M. were

5 Evidence Code section 1360 states: “(a) In a criminal prosecution where the
victim is a minor, a statement made by the victim when under the age of 12 describing
any act of child abuse or neglect performed with or on the child by another, or describing
any attempted act of child abuse or neglect with or on the child by another, is not made
inadmissible by the hearsay rule if all of the following apply: [¶] (1) The statement is
not otherwise admissible by statute or court rule. [¶] (2) The court finds, in a hearing
conducted outside the presence of the jury, that the time, content, and circumstances of
the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability. [¶] (3) The child either: [¶]
(A) Testifies at the proceedings. [¶] (B) Is unavailable as a witness, in which case the
statement may be admitted only if there is evidence of the child abuse or neglect that
corroborates the statement made by the child. [¶] (b) A statement may not be admitted
under this section unless the proponent of the statement makes known to the adverse
party the intention to offer the statement and the particulars of the statement sufficiently
in advance of the proceedings in order to provide the adverse party with a fair
opportunity to prepare to meet the statement. [¶] (c) For purposes of this section, ‘child
abuse’ means an act proscribed by Section 273a, 273d, or 288.5 of the Penal Code, or any
of the acts described in Section 11165.1 of the Penal Code, and ‘child neglect’ means any
of the acts described in Section 11165.2 of the Penal Code.”

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admissible. We did not locate any discussion of Evidence Code section 1360 in the
reporter’s transcript until after the verdict was recorded.
Evidence Code section 1360 is an exception to the hearsay rule and allows, in a
criminal prosecution, admission of out-of-court statements of a minor victim describing
any act of child abuse performed on him or her (or an attempt to perform such an act on
the victim) if (1) the statement is not otherwise admissible by statute or court rule, (2)
“[t]he court finds, in a hearing conducted outside the presence of the jury, that the time,
content, and circumstances of the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability,” and
(3) either the victim testifies at the trial or is unavailable as a witness and there is
evidence to corroborate the victim’s statement. (Id., § 1360, subd. (a).) Additional
procedural safeguards are included in the statute but are not relevant to Lopez’s
arguments.
Lopez asserts that had defense counsel objected to the introduction of the
statements, the trial court would have concluded there was insufficient indicia of
reliability for those statements, and it would not have allowed their introduction into
evidence. Lopez also notes that the statements were introduced in the absence of a
hearing being held outside the presence of the jury, and counsel was ineffective for
failing to ensure this procedural safeguard was followed.
We turn to Evidence Code section 1360. Even though, as Lopez notes, a hearing
was not held outside the presence of the jury during which the trial court could hear
evidence and determine whether the time, content, and circumstances of the statement
provided sufficient indicia of reliability (id., subd. (a)(2)), the record is adequate to
resolve this issue.
Furthermore, it appears the trial court concluded J.M.’s out of court statements
contained sufficient indicia of reliability when it denied Lopez’s motion for judgment
pursuant to section 1118.1. When discussing the evidence related to count nine, the trial
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 “The most telling part for me, first of all, as to competency, and second of
all that the jury can rely on the CART interview. As I recall towards the
end of that interview, the interviewer asked J.M., ‘Am I wrong that you
said that you were touched on your foof and on your bottom?’ [¶] And
J.M. responded and said, ‘You are wrong. It was only my foof,’ I’m
paraphrasing, but not my butt. And I thought that was very enlightening
and proof that this four-year-old- would not be led, number one, by the
interviewer saying, ‘Yeah, you’re right it was both.’ [¶] Number two, she
said, ‘No, you are wrong. I was just saying it was my foof.’ So I think
she’s competent enough and I think it’s sufficient to be affirmed on appeal
if the jury wants to believe that.” (Italics added.)
Turning to Lopez’s argument, we first question whether Evidence Code section
1360 applies because J.M.’s statements would have been admissible under another
exception to the hearsay rule. J.M. testified at trial that she had never been molested.
However, in her prior statements she stated she had been molested by Lopez.
Accordingly, these statements became admissible pursuant to Evidence Code section
1235 as prior inconsistent statements.
Even if we were to apply Evidence Code section 1360, the record provides
sufficient evidence that the prior statements were sufficiently reliable to permit their
admission at trial. Lopez bases his argument on the factors identified in In re Cindy L.
(1997) 17 Cal.4th 15 and In re Lucero L. (2000) 22 Cal.4th 1227. These factors are
(1) spontaneity and consistent repetition, (2) mental state of the declarant, (3) use of
terminology unexpected of a child of similar age, (4) lack of motive to fabricate, and
(5) whether the child understands the difference between the truth and a falsehood. Both
cases also recognized that these factors constitute a “nonexhaustive list of factors.”
(Cindy L., at pp. 28-29; Lucero L., at p. 1239.)
We now turn to the statements made by J.M., which we summarized above. J.M.
first brought up the molestation with her mother, M.R. M.R. explained that she was
talking with J.M. and explained good and bad touches. M.R. told J.M. that no one should
touch her “privates.” At this point J.M. said that Lopez had touched her foof when they
were sitting at the computer playing a game. M.R. asked if this was inside or outside of

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her shorts, and J.M. said it was inside of her shorts. As a result, M.R. reported the matter
to the police.
J.M. was first interviewed by police officers. The interview was recorded and
played for the jury. In this interview, the officer confirmed J.M. knew the difference
between the truth and a lie, and that J.M. knew she should not be touched on certain parts
of her body. J.M. initially denied that Lopez had done anything, and denied that anyone
had touched her in inappropriate places. J.M. also denied being afraid of Lopez.
However, when the officer asked her if anyone had touched her on her “foof,” J.M.
admitted Lopez had done so on one occasion and explained that it happened when she
was playing games on Lopez’s computer.
J.M. also was interviewed by the CART team. The interview began by the
interviewer asking questions that established J.M. was aware of her surroundings and her
family life. The interviewer also confirmed that J.M. knew the difference between good
and bad touches. The interviewer next asked if anyone had touched J.M. where they
were not supposed to touch her, to which J.M. responded in the affirmative. The
interviewer then asked if anyone had touched J.M. on various parts of her body,
eventually asking if anyone had touched J.M. on her vagina. J.M. initially denied anyone
had done so. Shortly thereafter, J.M. admitted Lopez had touched her vagina one time.
J.M. explained she was playing a game on the computer and Lopez touched her when she
needed help with the game. J.M. asked Lopez to stop, and Lopez eventually removed his
hand. Near the end of the interview, the interviewer tested J.M.’s story as observed by
the trial court in the above quote. The interviewer also confirmed that J.M. knew the
difference between the truth and a lie.
Lopez applies the above listed factors and concludes these statements were not
sufficiently reliable to have been admitted at trial. We disagree. J.M., while reluctant to
discuss the issue, consistently stated in these interviews that Lopez had touched her on
one occasion on her vagina. On each occasion J.M. confirmed the act occurred while she

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was playing games on the computer at Lopez’s house, and that no one else was present in
the room at the time. It is true that J.M. was not entirely consistent. For example, she
told the police officer that Lopez touched her on her underwear, while she told the CART
interviewer that Lopez touched her underneath her underwear. Nonetheless, the
differences were not significant enough to undermine confidence in the reliability of the
statements.
Lopez asserts the statements were not spontaneous. He points out that J.M.’s
reluctance resulted in the incriminating statements being made in response to direct
questions, as opposed to a voluntary description of the events that took place. While we
agree that J.M. did not at any time begin a conversation by stating she had been touched
inappropriately, we think this fact did not render the statements unreliable. J.M. was only
four years old when the molestation occurred and the statements were given. The act of
molestation consisted of a touching of her vagina and did not include vaginal penetration.
Lopez did not expose himself to J.M. These circumstances help explain J.M.’s reluctance
because she may not have fully understood the significance of Lopez’s actions.
Moreover, J.M.’s consistent repetition of the event suggests the statements were reliable.
Lopez also asserts that J.M.’s statements were not made at or near the time of the
molestation. His argument actually appears to be that the actual date on which the
molestation occurred was unclear based on J.M.’s statements. While this is true, the lack
of certainty as to the date is not remarkable considering J.M. was four years old.
Even if we were to consider the lack of spontaneity as suggesting the hearsay
statements were not reliable, the remaining factors would not support such a finding.
There is nothing in either interview that would suggest J.M.’s mental state was anything
other than appropriate for a four-year-old child. Nor was her use of terminology
unexpected for a four-year-old child. However, this is not surprising, considering she
was touched only one time by Lopez. This is not a situation where there was repeated
and varied acts of sexual abuse of a child. Nor was there any evidence that J.M. had a

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motive to fabricate her testimony. Lopez introduced evidence that he had refused to loan
money to J.M.’s mother, apparently suggesting this was a motive for J.M. to fabricate the
charges. However, there was no evidence J.M. had any knowledge of this proposed
transaction, thus preventing an inference that J.M. fabricated the story to gain revenge for
the slight.
Lopez places great reliance on the final factor—whether J.M. knew the difference
between the truth and a lie. In both recorded interviews J.M. established that she knew
the difference between the two. Lopez complains that no one asked J.M. if she was being
truthful when she accused Lopez of touching her vagina. However, the record provides
evidence that J.M. was telling the truth. As the trial court noted, there was strong
evidence that J.M. was being truthful because she immediately corrected the CART
interviewer about which parts of her body had been touched by Lopez.
Lopez also vigorously argues that J.M. lied when she testified, thereby
establishing that she could have lied when she was interviewed. The lies told by J.M.,
according to Lopez, were that she did not recognize him when she testified, she did not
recall speaking to the police, and she did not recall her aunts. Unlike Lopez, we do not
find J.M. lied when she testified at trial. J.M. was only five years old when she testified,
and she had not seen Lopez since he had molested her over one year previously.
Moreover there was no evidence about whether Lopez changed his appearance.
Considering her age, the lack of motivation to lie when responding to this innocuous
question, and the uncomfortable situation in which J.M. found herself, it is possible that
she simply did not recognize Lopez rather than choosing to respond falsely to a question
that was not incriminating. The other “lies” identified by Lopez were not probative of
any fact that would support Lopez’s defense. Thus, J.M. did not have any motive to lie.
Instead, we conclude that this five-year-old child was doing her best to answer questions
in a very stressful and uncomfortable setting. To suggest J.M. intentionally lied is a
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 Taking into consideration all of the relevant factors, including J.M.’s age, the
consistency of her statements, and her immediate recognition of the CART interviewer’s
misleading question, we conclude there was ample evidence in the record to support a
finding that the time, content, and circumstances of J.M.’s statements provided sufficient
indicia of reliability.
Because there were sufficient indicia of reliability to permit introduction of the
statements pursuant to Evidence Code section 1360, and because the statements also were
admissible pursuant to Evidence Code section 1235, Lopez cannot establish defense
counsel was ineffective as a result of his failure to object to the statements pursuant to
Evidence Code section 1360. Failure to object is based on a rational tactical basis if
defense counsel reasonably assumes the objection would have been overruled. (People v.
Jones (1998) 17 Cal.4th 279, 309 [counsel not ineffective for failing to make a meritless
objection]; People v. Samayoa (1997) 15 Cal.4th 795, 848.) Accordingly, we reject
Lopez’s claim of ineffective assistance of counsel.
II. Excluded Testimony
M.R. obtained daycare for J.M. at the local YMCA for a period of time after she
was molested by Lopez. During trial defense counsel informed the trial court he intended
to call a teacher from the YMCA who would testify that J.M. frequently put her hands
down her pants, touching her vagina. The trial court expressed doubt as to whether this
evidence would support Lopez’s defense—“The clear implication is that she’s been
molested so she does that sort of thing”—but did not prohibit defense counsel from
inquiring into the topic. Defense counsel did not bring up the subject again until he filed
Lopez’s motion for a new trial. Defense counsel represented to the trial court that
representatives from the YMCA would testify that J.M. had a habit of putting her hand
down her pants during her nap. There also were two incidents where J.M.
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 Lopez now contends defense counsel was ineffective for failing to move before
trial to introduce this evidence and ensuring the trial court made a ruling on the
admissibility of this evidence.
As explained above, a successful ineffective assistance of counsel claim requires
the defendant to prove that defense counsel’s performance fell below an objective
standard of reasonableness, and that the defendant suffered prejudice as a result thereby.
Lopez cannot meet either prong of this analysis.
Since the record does not reveal the reason for defense counsel’s failure to seek to
introduce this evidence, we cannot find he was ineffective, unless there could not be any
satisfactory explanation for failing to do so. (People v. Cudjo (1993) 6 Cal.4th 585, 623.)
A rational explanation for not introducing this evidence is readily apparent. These
incidents occurred after Lopez allegedly molested J.M. A very reasonable inference
could be drawn that J.M. was acting out because she was molested. Defense counsel
could have decided to not introduce this evidence to avoid this inference, a decision well
within “an objective standard of reasonableness under prevailing professional norms”
(Dennis, supra, 17 Cal.4th at p. 540), especially since J.M. testified at trial that she had
not been molested.
Nor can Lopez establish any prejudice as a result of the failure of defense counsel
to introduce this evidence. Lopez asserts the jury would have inferred that J.M. acted out
because she was molested by someone other than Lopez because these acts occurred four
to five months after Lopez allegedly molested J.M. According to Lopez, this evidence
would have established J.M. was mistaken when she identified him as the one who
molested her.
Lopez’s argument defies logic. The statements made by J.M. accusing Lopez of
molesting her were given before she began acting out. Nor was there any evidence that
someone other than Lopez had molested J.M. Therefore, these incidents of acting out,
while perhaps suggesting J.M. had been molested, did not suggest someone other than

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Lopez had done so. For Lopez’s theory to make sense, J.M. would have had to invent the
accusations against Lopez before she was molested, and then have been molested by
some unknown third person after she accused Lopez of molesting her.
We conclude that if the jury had heard this evidence and had given it any weight at
all, it is likely it would have inferred the reason J.M. acted out was because she had been
molested. Since there was no evidence that anyone other than Lopez molested J.M., the
jury would have likely inferred that Lopez was guilty. Since this evidence was more
likely to cause the jury to find Lopez guilty rather than not guilty, he did not suffer any
prejudice as a result of defense counsel’s failure to introduce this evidence.
III. Abstract of Judgment
The abstract of judgment states that Lopez is “prohibited from visiting any child
under 18 years of age.” At the oral pronouncement of judgment, and in the minute order,
the trial court prohibited Lopez “from visiting any child victim under 18 years of age,
pursuant to Penal Code section 1202.05.” (Italics added.) Lopez contends, and the
Attorney General agrees, that the abstract of judgment must be corrected.
DISPOSITION
The judgment is affirmed. The trial court is directed to prepare an amended
abstract of judgment that accurately reflects the trial court’s oral pronouncement of
judgment as set forth in part III. above and to forward copies of the amended abstract of
judgment to all appropriate agencies.

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