In the
United States Court of Appeals
For the Seventh Circuit
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No. 22-1477
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
CHARLES STATES,
Defendant-Appellant.
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Appeal from the United States District Court for the
Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division.
No. 02-cr-464-6 — Ronald A. Guzmán, Judge.
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ARGUED APRIL 6, 2023 — DECIDED JULY 5, 2023
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Before FLAUM, ST. EVE, and PRYOR, Circuit Judges.
ST. EVE, Circuit Judge. During the summer of 2001, Charles
States belonged to a drug trafficking organization known as
the Carman Brothers Crew. He participated in four kidnap-
pings, during which he beat and threatened his victims to ex-
tort information, drugs, money, and other property for the
Crew’s benefit. When FBI agents and Chicago police officers
went to States’s apartment in 2002 to arrest him, States opened
fire and hit one police officer in the finger.
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States was charged with racketeering, attempted murder,
kidnapping, drug possession, and firearms offenses. A jury
convicted him on all counts, and he was sentenced to life plus
57 years in prison. After spending more than 15 years chal-
lenging his convictions and sentence, the district court resen-
tenced him in 2022 to 30 years. States now appeals the validity
of one of his firearms convictions and argues that the district
court erred by refusing to group certain counts for sentencing
purposes. We affirm his conviction and sentence.
I. Background
A. Offense Conduct
The Carman Brothers Crew, named for Richard and Je-
rome Carman, operated in the Chicago area from 1994 until
August 2001. States was a member in July and August 2001.
The Crew’s crimes included drug trafficking, kidnapping, ex-
tortion, robbery, theft, and firearms offenses. States partici-
pated in some drug trafficking activities, such as cooking co-
caine into cocaine base, but he principally committed kidnap-
ping and extortion on behalf of the Crew.
In July 2001, States and Jerome Carman kidnapped a man
named Ramon at gunpoint. Over the course of two days,
States and Jerome physically restrained, threatened, and beat
Ramon, coercing him into handing over 5.5 kilograms of co-
caine and three firearms. States received 1 kilogram of cocaine
as payment. On August 1, 2001, States helped kidnap three
more individuals. He threatened two victims at gunpoint to
extract information about the third victim, who had stolen
from the Crew. States shot the third victim’s dog and stole a
Rolex and Lexus from him. States received the Rolex as pay-
ment.
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On October 9, 2002, FBI agents and Chicago police officers
went to States’s apartment to execute a warrant for his arrest.
States fired five shots through the door and hit a police officer
in the finger, causing an injury that required surgery. Law en-
forcement then arrested States.
B. Procedural History
States was indicted on 12 counts, and in 2005 a jury con-
victed him on all counts. The district court sentenced him to
life in prison, plus 57 years in consecutive sentences for three
violations of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)—two for carrying a firearm
during and in relation to a crime of violence, and one for car-
rying a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking
crime. On appeal, States argued only that the entire federal
criminal code was unconstitutional. We rejected that argu-
ment and affirmed his convictions. United States v. States, 242
F. App’x 362 (7th Cir. 2007) (per curiam). States subsequently
moved to vacate his sentence pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2255 be-
cause he had received ineffective assistance of counsel on ap-
peal. The district court vacated States’s sentence, then reim-
posed it to allow States to appeal a second time. We affirmed
again. United States v. States, 652 F.3d 734 (7th Cir. 2011).
In 2015, the Supreme Court held that the residual clause of
the Armed Career Criminal Act, 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(2)(B), was
unconstitutionally vague. Johnson v. United States, 576 U.S. 591
(2015). Because § 924(c) has an analogous residual clause
(which was later struck down for the same reason in United
States v. Davis, 139 S. Ct. 2319 (2019)), in 2016, States sought
our permission to file a successive § 2255 motion to vacate his
three § 924(c) convictions. See 28 U.S.C. § 2255(h). We granted
him permission to challenge his two § 924(c) convictions for
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carrying a firearm during and in relation to a crime of vio-
lence. 1
States’s predicate crimes of violence were Hobbs Act ex-
tortion, 18 U.S.C. § 1951, and attempted murder of a federal
officer, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1113–1114. The government did not con-
test States’s motion with respect to the § 924(c) conviction
predicated on extortion, and the district court vacated that
conviction. The district court denied States’s motion with re-
spect to the conviction predicated on attempted murder be-
cause then-controlling circuit precedent established that an
attempt to commit a crime of violence is itself a crime of vio-
lence under the elements clause of § 924(c).
Because the district court had vacated one of States’s con-
victions, it resentenced him in full. The updated Presentence
Investigation Report (“PSR”) grouped States’s convictions as
follows:
• Count Group 1 encompassed the drug-related of-
fenses—racketeering, racketeering conspiracy, con-
spiracy to possess cocaine with intent to distribute,
and possession of cocaine with intent to distribute;
• Count Group 2 comprised the convictions related
to Ramon’s kidnapping—racketeering (based on
different racketeering acts than in Count Group 1),
racketeering conspiracy, and extortion;
• Count Groups 3–5 related to the other three kid-
nappings; and
1We denied permission to challenge the third § 924(c) conviction be-
cause Johnson did not call into question the validity of § 924(c) convictions
predicated on drug trafficking crimes. See § 924(c)(2).
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• Count Group 6 comprised the offenses States com-
mitted during his October 2002 arrest.
The PSR did not group States’s two remaining § 924(c) con-
victions—one each for using a firearm during and in relation
to a crime of violence and a drug trafficking crime—because
they mandated consecutive sentences.
At sentencing in February 2022, States objected to the
PSR’s failure to group Count Groups 1 and 2. He argued that
they “involv[ed] substantially the same harm” because each
count group “embodie[d] conduct that [was] treated as a spe-
cific offense characteristic in, or other adjustment to, the
guideline applicable to another of the counts.” U.S.S.G.
§ 3D1.2(c). 2 The district court disagreed, finding that these of-
fenses were “different occurrence[s] in every way, including
the dangers to the community and the danger to a single in-
dividual,” so it would be “incongruous to group them to-
gether.” The court imposed concurrent sentences on Count
Groups 1–6, the longest of which was 20 years, plus two con-
secutive five-year sentences for the § 924(c) convictions.
States appealed. He argues, first, that the § 924(c) convic-
tion predicated on his attempted murder conviction is invalid
and, second, that the district court erred at sentencing by re-
fusing to group Count Groups 1 and 2.
II. Motion to Vacate
States appeals the denial of his motion to vacate his con-
viction for carrying a firearm during and in relation to a fed-
eral crime of violence. 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1)(A). The predicate
2 The 2001 version of the Guidelines applied to States, but the relevant
provisions are materially identical to those currently in force.
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crime of violence for this conviction is attempted murder of a
federal officer. 18 U.S.C. §§ 1113–1114. We review de novo
whether a predicate offense is a crime of violence. Haynes v.
United States, 936 F.3d 683, 687 (7th Cir. 2019).
A. Analytical Framework
The elements clause of § 924(c) defines “crime of violence”
as “an offense that is a felony and … has as an element the
use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against
the person or property of another.” § 924(c)(3)(A). We employ
the categorical approach to determine whether an offense
meets this definition. United States v. Taylor, 142 S. Ct. 2015,
2020 (2022). Under the categorical approach, “[t]he only rele-
vant question is whether the federal felony at issue always re-
quires the government to prove—beyond a reasonable doubt,
as an element of its case—the use, attempted use, or threat-
ened use of force.” Id. If “there is some way to commit a[n
offense] without using, attempting to use, or threatening
physical force,” then it is not a crime of violence. United States
v. Worthen, 60 F.4th 1066, 1068 (7th Cir. 2023).
We apply the modified categorical approach when a pred-
icate offense appears in a “divisible” statute. Gamboa v. Dan-
iels, 26 F.4th 410, 416 (7th Cir. 2022) (citing Chazen v. Marske,
938 F.3d 851, 857 (7th Cir. 2019)). A divisible statute “sets out
one or more elements of the offense in the alternative.” Id.
(quoting Descamps v. United States, 570 U.S. 254, 257 (2013)).
The modified categorical approach requires us to “‘determine
what crime, with what elements’ [the] defendant was really
‘convicted of’” within the divisible statute, before deciding
whether it is a valid § 924(c) predicate under the categorical
approach. Haynes, 936 F.3d at 687 (citations omitted) (quoting
Mathis v. United States, 579 U.S. 500, 505–06 (2016)).
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The statutes at issue here—18 U.S.C. §§ 1113–1114—are di-
visible because they set out distinct crimes with different ele-
ments and penalties. See Gamboa, 26 F.4th at 416. No one dis-
putes that States’s specific crime of conviction is attempted
murder of a federal officer, which is the “attempt[] to kill any
officer … of the United States … while such officer … is en-
gaged in or on account of the performance of official duties.”
§ 1114(a). The point of disagreement is whether a § 1114 at-
tempted murder conviction always requires the government
to prove that the defendant used, attempted, or threatened
physical force. This issue turns on how the categorical ap-
proach treats attempt offenses.
B. United States v. Taylor
The Supreme Court analyzed how to apply the categorical
approach to attempt offenses in United States v. Taylor, where
it considered whether attempted Hobbs Act robbery is a crime
of violence. 142 S. Ct. at 2018. Hobbs Act robbery is the “un-
lawful taking or obtaining of personal property from the per-
son … of another, against his will, by means of actual or
threatened force.” 18 U.S.C. § 1951(b)(1). Completed Hobbs
Act robbery is a crime of violence because “actual or threat-
ened force” is an element, as the Court suggested in Taylor,
142 S. Ct. at 2020, and we reaffirmed in Worthen, 60 F.4th at
1067. But because an attempt to commit Hobbs Act robbery
does not always require the government to prove “the use, at-
tempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the
person or property of another,” § 924(c)(3)(A), the Court held
that it is not a crime of violence. Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21.
Taylor’s categorical approach analysis centered on the ele-
ments of completed Hobbs Act robbery and the elements of
attempt. After reviewing the elements of Hobbs Act robbery,
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the Court reasoned “that to win a case for attempted Hobbs Act
robbery the government must prove two things: (1) The de-
fendant intended to unlawfully take or obtain personal prop-
erty by means of actual or threatened force, and (2) he com-
pleted a ‘substantial step’ toward that end.” Id. at 2020 (cita-
tion omitted). The categorical approach asks if an offense “al-
ways requires the government to prove … the use, attempted
use, or threatened use of force,” but a person can commit at-
tempted Hobbs Act robbery by attempting to threaten force.
Id. at 2020–21. Because an attempt to threaten force does not
constitute “the use, attempted use, or threatened use of phys-
ical force,” an attempt to commit the elements of Hobbs Act
robbery, § 1951(b)(1), does not contain an element of force that
matches § 924(c)(3)(A)’s elements clause.
Taylor’s analysis did not end there. Although the elements
of attempted Hobbs Act robbery do not match § 924(c)(3)(A),
the Court had not yet addressed the distinct elements of at-
tempt. Those elements are (1) the intent to commit the sub-
stantive offense and (2) a substantial step toward committing
that offense. Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020. 3 If proving a defendant
committed those elements always required the government to
prove the use, attempted use, or threatened use of force, then
attempted Hobbs Act robbery would be a crime of violence
under § 924(c)(3)(A). But the Court held that the elements of
attempted Hobbs Act robbery do not categorically include
3 As explained below, the elements of attempted murder of a federal
officer are a categorical match for § 924(c)(3)(A). While Taylor conducted a
separate analysis of the elements of attempt to decide whether attempted
Hobbs Act robbery is a crime of violence, it is unnecessary to consider the
elements of attempt to conclude that attempted murder of a federal officer
is a crime of violence.
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such force: “[A]n intention is just that, no more. And whatever
a substantial step requires, it does not require the government
to prove that the defendant used, attempted to use, or even
threatened to use force against another person or his prop-
erty.” Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21.
The Court used a hypothetical to illustrate why attempted
Hobbs Act robbery does not satisfy the elements clause. A
would-be Hobbs Act robber named Adam cases a store, pur-
chases supplies, plans his getaway, and writes a note reading
“Your money or your life” to pass to the cashier. Id. at 2021.
“The note is a bluff, but Adam hopes its implication that he is
armed and dangerous will elicit a compliant response.” Id.
Adam is arrested as he crosses the threshold of the store and
never conveys his threat to the cashier. Id. On this fact pattern,
Adam has committed attempted Hobbs Act robbery even
though he did not use, attempt, or threaten force; “[h]e may
have intended and attempted to [threaten force], but he
failed.” Id. Thus, the Court concluded, “no element of at-
tempted Hobbs Act robbery requires proof that the defendant
used, attempted to use, or threatened to use force.” Id.
C. The Scope of Taylor
The parties dispute how broadly Taylor applies. The gov-
ernment contends that Taylor’s holding that an attempt is not
a crime of violence is limited to attempts to commit offenses—
like Hobbs Act robbery—that can be completed without the
use of actual force. Under this interpretation, adopted by the
two other circuits to have considered the issue, Taylor leaves
open the possibility that an attempt to commit an offense that
requires the use of force may be a crime of violence. See Al-
varado-Linares v. United States, 44 F.4th 1334, 1346–47 (11th Cir.
2022); United States v. Martin, No. 22-5278, 2023 WL 2755656,
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at *5–7 (6th Cir. Apr. 3, 2023), cert. docketed, No. 22-7760 (U.S.
June 12, 2023).
States, in contrast, argues that Taylor applies to all attempt
offenses and establishes that attempt crimes are never crimes
of violence. He reads Taylor to contain no language limiting
its reach to offenses that can be committed without the use of
actual force. States insists that when the Court observed that
“[w]hatever one might say about completed Hobbs Act rob-
bery, attempted Hobbs Act robbery does not satisfy the ele-
ments clause,” Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020, it meant that the iden-
tity of the completed offense is irrelevant because no attempt
crime is a crime of violence. 4
We agree with the government and our sister circuits. Tay-
lor is silent about attempts to commit crimes that require the
use of force, and the sounder reading of “[w]hatever one
might say about completed Hobbs Act robbery” is that the
Court was declining to reach a question unnecessary to its de-
cision. See, e.g., MOAC Mall Holdings LLC v. Transform Holdco
LLC, 143 S. Ct. 927, 940 n.10 (2023). Further, States’s reading
of Taylor—that no attempt offense is a crime of violence—
would effectively strike “attempted use … of physical force”
from § 924(c)(3)(A) because that phrase would describe an
empty set of offenses.
Pushing back on this conclusion, at oral argument States
contended that his interpretation of Taylor would not read the
4 States also argues that the elements of the substantive offense cannot
matter because if they did, Taylor would have addressed the elements of
Hobbs Act robbery. This argument is puzzling because Taylor did discuss
those elements, and they informed the Court’s analysis of what a convic-
tion for attempted Hobbs Act robbery entails. See 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21.
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attempted force clause out of § 924(c)(3)(A). He proposed that
there is a distinction between committing an offense for which
the attempt to use force is an element and attempting to commit
an offense for which the use of force is an element. In his view,
the former may constitute a crime of violence under
§ 924(c)(3)(A), but the latter may not. He notes that some
states’ assault statutes fall into the former category. E.g., Idaho
Code § 18-901(a) (defining assault as “[a]n unlawful attempt,
coupled with apparent ability, to commit a violent injury on
the person of another”); La. Stat. Ann. § 14:36 (“Assault is an
attempt to commit a battery, or the intentional placing of an-
other in reasonable apprehension of receiving a battery.”). But
unlike some other contexts in which the categorical approach
applies, state convictions cannot serve as § 924(c) predicates.
The statute requires a predicate offense to be one “for which
the [defendant] may be prosecuted in a court of the United
States.” § 924(c)(1)(A) (emphasis added); see Taylor, 142 S. Ct.
at 2019 (noting that the predicate must be a “federal felony”).
Federal statutes seldom include attempted conduct as an
element of a completed crime. Criminal assault statutes do
not use this formulation. E.g., 18 U.S.C. § 111(a)(1) (punishing
a defendant who “forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes,
intimidates, or interferes with [a federal officer]”); see also
United States v. Pruitt, 999 F.3d 1017, 1027 & n.2 (6th Cir. 2021)
(Nalbandian, J., concurring) (listing statutes). 5 At least one
5 Assault under the Uniform Code of Military Justice does incorporate
attempt as an element of the completed offense: “Any person subject to
this chapter who, unlawfully and with force or violence—(1) attempts to
do bodily harm to another person; (2) offers to do bodily harm to another
person; or (3) does bodily harm to another person; is guilty of assault and
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.” 10 U.S.C. § 928(a). We
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statute does list the “attempt[] to cause bodily injury” as an
element of a completed crime. 18 U.S.C. § 249(a)(1), (a)(2)(A);
see United States v. Roof, 10 F.4th 314, 401 n.63 (4th Cir. 2021)
(per curiam) (interpreting the attempt clause of § 249(a) as a
means of committing the completed offense). But § 249(a) is
an outlier. The federal criminal code contains no standalone
attempt statute. United States v. Muresanu, 951 F.3d 833, 837
(7th Cir. 2020). Federal law punishes attempts “only if the stat-
utory definition of the crime itself proscribes attempts.” Id. (ci-
tation omitted). Further, because attempts and completed of-
fenses are distinct crimes, Worthen, 60 F.4th at 1070, a statute
that prohibits a crime and the attempt to commit it is likely to
be divisible, so we would not consider the attempted crime’s
elements when determining whether the completed offense is
a crime of violence. See Gamboa, 26 F.4th at 416; Haynes, 936
F.3d at 687; cf. Roof, 10 F.4th at 401 n.63 (concluding that at-
tempt is an element of a completed § 249(a) violation because
the statute is indivisible).
So while States’s reading might not read attempted force
out of the statute entirely, it is implausible that § 924(c)(3)(A)
incorporates this understanding of attempted force. The text
of § 924(c)(3)(A) contains no hint that “attempted use … of
physical force” refers only to completed offenses that have at-
tempted force as an element and excludes the mine run of at-
tempts to commit offenses that require the use of force. To
agree with States’s reading of § 924(c)(3)(A), we would have
have previously held that violations of the Uniform Code of Military Jus-
tice may serve as predicate offenses for an enhanced sentence under 18
U.S.C. § 924(e), United States v. Martinez, 122 F.3d 421, 423–26 (7th Cir.
1997), so it may be that a violation of 10 U.S.C. § 928(a) could be a crime of
violence under States’s reading of § 924(c)(3)(A).
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to conclude that, despite including “attempted use … of phys-
ical force” in the statute, Congress excluded all or nearly all
attempt offenses from § 924(c)’s definition of a crime of vio-
lence. Nothing in Taylor suggests this drastic result. We join
the Sixth and Eleventh Circuits in concluding that Taylor’s
holding applies only to attempts to commit crimes that can be
completed by threat of force. Alvarado-Linares, 44 F.4th at
1346–47; Martin, 2023 WL 2755656, at *5–7.
D. Attempt Offenses and Crimes of Violence
That brings us to whether attempted murder is a crime of
violence under § 924(c). States acknowledges that we have
previously held that attempted murder is a crime of violence.
See Hill v. United States, 877 F.3d 717, 720 (7th Cir. 2017). 6 A
completed murder—unlike a Hobbs Act robbery—always re-
quires the use of force, so Taylor is not directly on point here.
States argues, however, that Hill is inconsistent with Taylor’s
6 To be precise, Hill held that Illinois attempted murder is a “violent
felony” under the elements clause of the Armed Career Criminal Act, 18
U.S.C. § 924(e)(2)(B)(i), but these distinctions do not change our analysis.
As to the first, neither party suggests there is a material difference between
Illinois attempted murder and § 1114 attempted murder. See Hill, 877 F.3d
at 720 (observing that Johnson v. United States, 559 U.S. 133 (2010), charac-
terized “murder as the paradigm of an offense that comes within the ele-
ments clause”). As to the second, § 924(e)’s elements clause is narrower
than § 924(c)’s, so any violent felony under the former is also a crime of
violence under the latter. Compare § 924(e)(2)(B)(i) (defining a “violent fel-
ony” as “ha[ving] as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use
of physical force against the person of another”), with § 924(c)(3)(A) (per-
mitting the force to be directed at “the person or property of another”).
For simplicity, in the remainder of this opinion, we refer to Hill’s impact
on crimes of violence and § 1114 attempted murder without repeating that
we are reasoning by analogy.
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reasoning, which is “just as binding as [its] holding,” Bucklew
v. Precythe, 139 S. Ct. 1112, 1126 (2019), so Taylor’s reasoning
abrogates Hill. States is correct to an extent. Taylor effectively
abrogates some of Hill’s reasoning, including one of the bases
for its ultimate holding. But Hill also contains a separate con-
clusion supported by distinct reasoning that Taylor does not
call into question. Under the remaining portion of Hill, at-
tempted murder remains a crime of violence.
1. Hill v. United States
Hill v. United States clarified how we analyze attempt of-
fenses under elements clauses analogous to § 924(c)(3)(A). We
drew heavily on Judge Hamilton’s concurring opinion in
Morris v. United States, 827 F.3d 696 (7th Cir. 2016), and
adopted two of the concurrence’s conclusions about how the
categorical approach applies to attempt offenses.
First, we concluded that “an attempt to commit a crime
should be treated as an attempt to commit every element of
that crime.” Hill, 877 F.3d at 719 (citing Morris, 827 F.3d at 698–
99 (Hamilton, J., concurring)). The Morris concurrence “recog-
nized that the crime of attempt requires only a substantial step
toward completion,” but a defendant must also “intend to
commit every element of the completed crime in order to be
guilty of attempt.” Id. The combination of these two elements,
the concurrence thought, is sufficient to treat an attempt of-
fense as an attempt to commit each element of the completed
offense. Id. Thus, “[w]hen the intent element of the attempt
offense includes intent to commit violence against the person
of another, … it makes sense to say that the attempt crime it-
self includes violence as an element,” making the attempt a
valid predicate for purposes of § 924(c). Id.; see Morris, 827
F.3d at 699 (Hamilton, J., concurring) (“[A]n attempt to
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commit a crime should be treated as an attempt to carry out
acts that satisfy each element of the completed crime.”).
Second, we reasoned that since “the fact that a statute con-
tains as an element attempt at physical force suffices to label
the crime itself a [crime of violence], it follows that an attempt
to commit a [crime of violence] is itself a [crime of violence].”
Hill, 877 F.3d at 719 (citing Morris, 827 F.3d at 689–99 (Hamil-
ton, J., concurring)). From that premise, we concluded that
“[w]hen a substantive offense would be a [crime of violence]
under [§ 924(c)] and similar statutes, an attempt to commit
that offense also is a [crime of violence].” Id.
Turning to the facts in Hill, we observed that murder is a
crime of violence because it requires the use of force. Id. at 720.
We then held that because murder is a crime of violence, at-
tempted murder is also a crime of violence. Id.
2. Taylor’s Impact on Hill
Part of the reasoning supporting Hill’s holding is no longer
valid, in particular the conclusion that if an offense is a crime
of violence, so too is an attempt to commit that offense. Taylor
rejected the argument “that the elements clause encompasses
not only any offense that qualifies as a ‘crime of violence’ but
also any attempt to commit such a crime.” 142 S. Ct. at 2021–
22. Hobbs Act robbery is an example: the completed offense
is a crime of violence, Worthen, 60 F.4th at 1067, but an attempt
to commit it is not. Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21.
States argues that Taylor also abrogates Hill’s separate con-
clusion that an attempt is treated as an attempt to commit each
element of the completed offense. But the only time he men-
tions that part of Hill, he alters our wording in a small but
meaningful way. According to States, Hill stated that “the
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intent element of attempted murder necessarily includes an
intent to commit all of the elements of the substantive of-
fense.” (emphasis added). Although we used similar lan-
guage in Hill, we specifically concluded that “an attempt to
commit a crime should be treated as an attempt to commit
every element of that crime.” 877 F.3d at 719 (emphasis
added). Hill’s logic, to borrow the Eleventh Circuit’s phrasing,
is that the “definition of ‘attempt’ is (1) substantial step plus
(2) intent,” Alvarado-Linares, 44 F.4th at 1347 (citations omit-
ted), and proving both of those elements establishes that the
defendant attempted to commit each element of the com-
pleted offense.
Taylor is consistent with this understanding of attempt. As
the Court explained, the hypothetical Adam attempted to
commit Hobbs Act robbery although “he never even got to the
point of threatening the use of force against anyone or any-
thing.” 142 S. Ct. at 2021. But Adam “may have intended and
attempted to do just that.” Id. (emphasis added). Saying that
Adam attempted to threaten force squares with treating an at-
tempt as an attempt to commit each element of the completed
crime because threatening force is an element of Hobbs Act
robbery. See § 1951(b)(1); Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2021. 7 If the
7 Note that even if a person has the specific intent to commit a crime,
if his overt acts amount only to “mere preparation,” then he has not taken
a substantial step and has not attempted to commit each element of the
completed crime. See Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020 (citation omitted). Determin-
ing what acts constitute a substantial step is a fact-intensive, case-specific
inquiry. United States v. Sanchez, 615 F.3d 836, 844 (7th Cir. 2010). That in-
quiry is guided by the principles that (1) it must be “reasonably clear that
had the defendant not been interrupted or made a mistake he would have
completed the crime,” and (2) we measure substantial steps based on the
acts the defendant took, not the acts that remained incomplete. Id. (internal
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offense the defendant attempted to commit required the use
of force, not the mere threat of force, then the attempt would
have involved the attempted use of force. See Alvarado-Linares,
44 F.4th at 1347 (“[W]hen a crime has as an element a substan-
tial step plus intent to use force against another person, that
crime has as an element the ‘attempted use … of physical
force against the person of another.’” (ellipsis in original)
(quoting § 924(c)(3)(A))).
States’s argument to the contrary is unavailing because he
discusses the elements of attempt separately rather than in
combination. While Taylor stated that “an intention is just
that, no more,” and that a substantial step need not be violent,
142 S. Ct. at 2020, proof of both elements is what constitutes
attempt to commit each element of the completed offense. See
Hill, 877 F.3d at 719; Alvarado-Linares, 44 F.4th at 1347; cf.
United States v. D.D.B., 903 F.3d 684, 692–93 (7th Cir. 2018)
(holding that Indiana attempted robbery is not a crime of vio-
lence because attempt in Indiana does not require proof of in-
tent to commit each element of the completed offense).
To be sure, Taylor analyzed whether each element of at-
tempt always entails the use, attempted use, or threatened use
of force, spending considerable time on the substantial step
element. But the discussion of substantial steps focused on
whether the substantial step itself satisfied § 924(c)’s elements
clause. See Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21 (explaining that at-
tempted Hobbs Act robbery need not contain a
alterations omitted) (quoting United States v. Gladish, 536 F.3d 646, 648 (7th
Cir. 2008)). The identity and elements of the attempted crime may also
matter, as “conduct that would appear to be mere preparation in one case
might qualify as a substantial step in another.” Id. (citation omitted).
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communicated threat of force); id. at 2022–24 (rejecting the
government’s argument that “threatened force” should be in-
terpreted broadly enough that the substantial step in every
attempted Hobbs Act robbery involves threatened force); id.
at 2024–25 (reiterating that it is irrelevant under the categori-
cal approach whether most attempted Hobbs Act robberies
involve a communicated threat of force).
The Court needed to consider whether the substantial step
satisfies the elements clause because attempting to commit the
elements of Hobbs Act robbery does not. See id. at 2020–21;
Alvarado-Linares, 44 F.4th at 1347 (“Although the elements
clause covers the use of force, the attempt to use force, and the
threat to use force, it does not cover attempts to threaten the use
of force.”). If such an attempt involved the force required for
a § 924(c) conviction, it would have been unnecessary to ana-
lyze whether the substantial step also involves such force. Cf.
Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020–21 (proceeding to discuss substantial
steps only after noting that attempted Hobbs Act robbery can
be committed via an attempt to threaten force). 8
Because Taylor’s substantial step analysis focused on that
element alone, it does not undermine Hill’s conclusion that an
attempt constitutes an attempt to commit each element of the
substantive offense or the reasoning underlying it. The inter-
action of the intent and substantial step elements was central
8In Alvarado-Linares, the Eleventh Circuit followed this analytical
path. Without considering what conduct constitutes a substantial step, the
court concluded that Georgia attempted murder, like federal attempted
murder, is a crime of violence. The court reached this conclusion because
murder always requires the use of force and attempted murder requires
proof that the defendant (1) “had the intent to kill someone” and (2) “com-
pleted a substantial step towards that goal.” 44 F.4th at 1346–48.
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to Hill’s attempt analysis. See Morris, 827 F.3d at 698–99 (Ham-
ilton, J., concurring) (focusing on the fact that “[a]ttempt re-
quires intent to commit the completed crime plus a substan-
tial step toward its completion”); Hill, 877 F.3d at 719 (adopt-
ing this reasoning). Taylor said nothing about the interaction
between these elements and therefore did not reject Hill’s con-
clusion that an attempt constitutes an attempt to commit each
element of the substantive offense. 9
We therefore hold that Taylor abrogates Hill only to the ex-
tent that Hill reasoned that “[w]hen a substantive offense
would be a [crime of violence] …, an attempt to commit that
offense also is a [crime of violence].” 887 F.3d at 719. Its sepa-
rate conclusion that “an attempt to commit a crime should be
treated as an attempt to commit every element of that crime,”
id., is consistent with Taylor and remains good law. 10
9 States also argues that Taylor must abrogate Hill because the Supreme
Court expressly rejected an Eleventh Circuit case that relied on Hill. See
Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2021–22 (abrogating United States v. St. Hubert, 909 F.3d
335 (11th Cir. 2018)). True, St. Hubert relied on Hill, but like States it un-
derstood Hill’s analysis to be based on intent, not the combination of intent
and a substantial step: “As to attempt crimes, the Seventh Circuit observed
in Hill that (1) a defendant must intend to commit every element of the
completed crime in order to be guilty of attempt, and (2) thus, ‘an attempt
to commit a crime should be treated as an attempt to commit every ele-
ment of that crime.’” St. Hubert, 909 F.3d at 352–53 (quoting Hill, 877 F.3d
at 719). But as noted above, Hill reasoned differently, so St. Hubert’s abro-
gation does not affect the validity of Hill’s alternative conclusion.
10 Because this opinion recognizes the partial abrogation of Hill, it has
been circulated among all judges of this court in regular active service pur-
suant to Circuit Rule 40(e). No judge voted to rehear the case en banc.
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3. Application
Applying these principles to States’s attempted murder
conviction is straightforward. The government proved that he
intended to kill a federal officer engaged in his official duties
and took a substantial step toward that end. See 18 U.S.C.
§§ 1113–1114; Taylor, 142 S. Ct. at 2020. When the government
must prove the defendant intended to commit each element
of the completed offense, we treat the attempt conviction as
an attempt to commit each element of the completed offense.
Hill, 877 F.3d at 719; D.D.B., 903 F.3d at 692–93. Murder al-
ways entails the use of physical force against another person.
Hill, 877 F.3d at 720. 11 It follows that an element of attempted
murder is the “attempted use … of physical force against the
person or property of another,” § 924(c)(3)(A), making at-
tempted murder a valid § 924(c) predicate. See Martin, 2023
WL 2755656, at *5–7. Thus, we affirm States’s conviction for
using a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence.
11 Felony murder, in contrast, does not categorically involve the use
of force within the meaning of § 924(c). Under federal law, felony murder
is a killing during the commission of one of the offenses enumerated in 18
U.S.C. § 1111(a), and that killing can be unintentional. Dean v. United
States, 556 U.S. 568, 575 (2009); United States v. Delaney, 717 F.3d 553, 556
(7th Cir. 2013). Thus, felony murder does not have as an element the “use
… of physical force” because § 924(c)(3)(A) requires the purposeful or
knowing application of force. See Borden v. United States, 141 S. Ct. 1817,
1825–28 (2021) (plurality op.) (interpreting analogous language in
§ 924(e)(2)(B)(i)). The definition of felony murder is immaterial here, how-
ever, because § 1111(a) is a divisible statute that criminalizes both murder
and felony murder, different crimes with different elements. See Gamboa,
26 F.4th at 416; United States v. Jackson, 32 F.4th 278, 286 (4th Cir. 2022)
(holding that § 1111(a) is divisible). States’s crime is attempted murder.
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III. Grouping
The second issue on appeal concerns sentencing. While
calculating States’s Sentencing Guidelines range, the district
court did not group Count Group 1 (drug trafficking offenses)
and Count Group 2 (kidnapping Ramon). States argues that
U.S.S.G. § 3D1.2(c) required grouping these counts.
We review the district court’s application of the Sentenc-
ing Guidelines de novo. United States v. Lomax, 51 F.4th 222,
228 (7th Cir. 2022). Application notes to the Guidelines are not
mere commentary. United States v. Carnell, 972 F.3d 932, 939
(7th Cir. 2020). They are analogous to agencies’ interpreta-
tions of their own regulations, Stinson v. United States, 508 U.S.
36, 44–45 (1993), which may be entitled to Auer deference (also
called Seminole Rock deference). See United States ex rel. Proctor
v. Safeway, Inc., 30 F.4th 649, 662 n.19 (7th Cir. 2022), vacated on
other grounds, 143 S. Ct. 1391 (2023). Thus, we have held that
an application note accompanying a guideline “is binding au-
thority ‘unless it violates the Constitution or a federal statute,
or is inconsistent with, or a plainly erroneous reading of, that
guideline.’” United States v. Smith, 989 F.3d 575, 584 (7th Cir.
2021) (quoting Stinson, 508 U.S. at 38). 12
12 We may need to revisit our decisions on this subject in light of Kisor
v. Wilkie, 139 S. Ct. 2400 (2019). Kisor clarified that Auer deference can apply
“only if a regulation is genuinely ambiguous” after “resort[ing] to all the
standard tools of interpretation” and that not all agency interpretations of
ambiguous regulations are entitled to deference. Id. at 2414. But we leave
the question of Kisor’s effect on Stinson and our circuit precedent for an-
other day. Kisor does not expressly dictate a result in this case, the parties
have not briefed the issue, and as discussed below, we have previously
interpreted the guideline relevant to this appeal. See United States v. Lewis,
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A. Grouping Under U.S.S.G. § 3D1.2(c)
Introductory commentary to the grouping section of the
Sentencing Guidelines Manual explains that the purpose of
grouping is “to provide incremental punishment for signifi-
cant additional criminal conduct.” U.S.S.G. Ch.3, Pt.D, intro.
comment. Grouping also “prevent[s] multiple punishment
963 F.3d 16, 24 (1st Cir. 2020) (declining to revisit a guideline interpretation
in light of Kisor’s clarification of Auer deference).
This issue has also divided our sister circuits. Several circuits have
concluded that Kisor applies to the Guidelines. United States v. Nasir, 17
F.4th 459, 469–71 (3d Cir. 2021); United States v. Riccardi, 989 F.3d 476, 483–
85 (6th Cir. 2021); United States v. Castillo, 69 F.4th 648, 657–62 (9th Cir.
2023); United States v. Dupree, 57 F.4th 1269, 1273–77 (11th Cir. 2023) (en
banc). One circuit has held that it does not. United States v. Maloid, --- F.4th
----, 2023 WL 4141073, at *7–15 (10th Cir. June 23, 2023). Panels of another
circuit have reached divergent conclusions. Compare United States v. Camp-
bell, 22 F.4th 438, 445 n.3 (4th Cir. 2022) (“Kisor cited Stinson …, making
clear that the[] modifications to Seminole Rock/Auer deference apply
equally to judicial interpretations of the Sentencing Commission’s com-
mentary.”), with United States v. Moses, 23 F.4th 347, 352 (4th Cir. 2022)
(“[W]e conclude that even though the two cases addressed analogous cir-
cumstances, Stinson nonetheless continues to apply when courts are ad-
dressing Guidelines commentary, while Kisor applies when courts are ad-
dressing executive agency interpretations of legislative rules.”); see Moses,
23 F.4th at 359 (King, J., dissenting in part and concurring in the judgment)
(noting this inconsistency). And one full circuit court has taken up the is-
sue. United States v. Vargas, 35 F.4th 936 (5th Cir. 2022), reh’g en banc granted,
opinion vacated, 45 F.4th 1083 (5th Cir. 2022) (mem.) (argued Jan. 23, 2023).
Further, the Sentencing Commission is aware courts are wrestling
with this issue, and in response it has proposed moving the content of cer-
tain application notes to the main Guidelines text. See Notice of Submis-
sion to Congress of Amendments to the Sentencing Guidelines Effective
November 1, 2023, and Request for Comment, 88 Fed. Reg. 28254, 28274–
76 (Proposed May 3, 2023).
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for substantially identical offense conduct” by avoiding the
multiple-sentence enhancement that would otherwise apply.
Id.; see also United States v. Curtis, 66 F.4th 690, 692 (7th Cir.
2023) (discussing the policy underlying grouping).
The guideline at issue in this appeal is U.S.S.G. § 3D1.2,
which requires grouping counts “involving substantially the
same harm.” The relevant provision provides that offenses in-
volve substantially the same harm “[w]hen one of the counts
embodies conduct that is treated as a specific offense charac-
teristic in, or other adjustment to, the guideline applicable to
another of the counts.” § 3D1.2(c). 13 Application Note 5 clari-
fies that § 3D1.2(c) “applies only if the offenses are closely re-
lated.” See United States v. Vucko, 473 F.3d 773, 779 (7th Cir.
2007) (“[C]rimes … must be ‘closely related’ to be grouped
under § 3D1.2(c) according to the commentary.”). 14
All agree that “closely related” refers primarily to the de-
fendant’s offense conduct, not only to the harm caused by his
offenses. This understanding ensures that Application Note 5
and the main text of § 3D1.2 perform distinct functions. Be-
cause § 3D1.2(c) defines “substantially the same harm,” if
13Specific offense characteristics, listed for each category of offense in
Chapter 2 of the Guidelines, and adjustments, listed in Chapter 3, modify
a defendant’s offense level based on a wide range of factors.
14 States points out that in Vucko, we held that the specific offense char-
acteristic at issue was “too broad to require the conclusion that it encom-
passes [the other offense] in particular,” 473 F.3d at 779, which he inter-
prets to mean that the “closely related” requirement kicks in only if it is
uncertain whether § 3D1.2(c) should apply. We disagree. Vucko’s discus-
sion of the breadth of the specific offense characteristic does not change its
conclusion that Application Note 5 only permits closely related offenses
to be grouped under § 3D1.2(c). See 473 F.3d at 779.
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Application Note 5 also turned on the harm caused by of-
fenses, it would either duplicate or modify the effect of
§ 3D1.2(c)’s text. This understanding is also consistent with
grouping’s goal of “prevent[ing] multiple punishment for
substantially identical offense conduct.” U.S.S.G. Ch.3, Pt.D,
intro. comment. While harm may be relevant to the analysis,
the “closely related” requirement primarily concerns the de-
fendant’s conduct. See Vucko, 473 F.3d at 779 (“These two
counts fail [the ‘closely related’] test. Vucko committed two
different crimes, causing two different harms and harming
two different victims. She did so at different times through
different actions.”).
B. States’s Offenses
The district court declined to group Count Group 1, the
drug trafficking offenses, and Count Group 2, the counts re-
lated to the kidnapping of Ramon. It disagreed with States
“that one [count group] actually encompasses the other,”
finding that “[t]he kidnapping count with respect to a partic-
ular individual is such a different occurrence in every way”
from the drug convictions. States contends that these count
groups are closely related and each incorporates the conduct
of the other through a specific offense characteristic or adjust-
ment, so § 3D1.2(c) requires grouping. He argues that he par-
ticipated in Ramon’s kidnapping solely to further the drug
trafficking conspiracy, and his only significant drug traffick-
ing conduct was the kidnapping. In his view, his offense con-
duct overlaps so much in timing and purpose that Count
Groups 1 and 2 should have been grouped.
Like the district court, we conclude that grouping these of-
fenses would be improper. States helped kidnap and hold Ra-
mon for two days in July 2001, but he also worked with the
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Carman Brothers Crew for a substantial part of July and Au-
gust 2001. And although States’s primary role with the Crew
was kidnapping, he participated in other drug-related con-
duct, such as cooking cocaine into cocaine base. Drug-posses-
sion offenses involve very different acts than kidnapping, ex-
tortion, and robbery, and even recognizing the relatively mi-
nor direct role States played in the Crew’s drug trafficking ac-
tivity, he is culpable for his coconspirators’ conduct in fur-
therance of the conspiracy. See, e.g., United States v. Jones, 900
F.3d 440, 446 (7th Cir. 2018). The drug trafficking crimes in
Count Group 1 involve a broader range of conduct committed
over a greater time period, inflicting diffuse harm on society.
In contrast, the kidnapping in Count Group 2 took place over
a shorter time span, and the criminal conduct inflicted direct
harm on a single victim. These offenses are not closely related.
See Vucko, 473 F.3d at 779 (holding that offenses were not
closely related when they involved different victims, harms,
conduct, and time periods).
States counters that failing to group these counts would
render § 3D1.2(c) superfluous. He asserts that under our in-
terpretation of “closely related,” if it is proper to group counts
under § 3D1.2(c), then those counts would also group under
a different Guidelines provision. Grouping under § 3D1.2(c)
depends on the specific conduct at issue, though. While
States’s kidnapping and drug trafficking offenses are not
closely related enough to group, it is possible that similar of-
fenses would group in another case. But even if States is cor-
rect, and § 3D1.2(c) rarely results in grouping offenses that
would not also be grouped by a different provision, that
would not change the outcome here. The plain meaning of
Application Note 5 makes clear that offenses being closely re-
lated is a prerequisite for grouping under § 3D1.2(c), Vucko,
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473 F.3d at 779, and that meaning is not “inconsistent with”
§ 3D1.2(c), nor “a plainly erroneous reading of” the guideline.
Smith, 989 F.3d at 584 (quoting Stinson, 508 U.S. at 38).
The conduct embodied by Count Groups 1 and 2 is not
closely related enough to permit grouping under § 3D1.2(c),
so the district court did not err by declining to group these
counts. 15
IV. Conclusion
The district court correctly held that attempted murder of
a federal officer is a crime of violence within the meaning of
§ 924(c)(3)(A) and that States’s drug trafficking and kidnap-
ping offenses could not be grouped under U.S.S.G. § 3D1.2(c).
States’s conviction and sentence are therefore
AFFIRMED.
15 Because offenses being closely related is a prerequisite for grouping
under § 3D1.2(c), we do not reach the issue of whether the specific offense
characteristics and adjustments contained in Count Groups 1 and 2 would
have required grouping if the counts had been closely related.