The question presented is whether a guilty plea record in which the trial court did not advise the defendant of his Boykin rights may be rehabilitated through testimony during a post-conviction hearing. We hold that it may.
In 1978, Youngblood pled guilty to aggravated assault and battery in return for a suspended sentence. He later filed a petition for post-conviction relief asserting, among other things, that his plea was not entered voluntarily and intelligently. The trial court denied Youngblood's petition and the Court of Appeals affirmed. Youngblood v. State, 528 N.E.2d 1173 (Ind.App., 1988). Because this Court has not addressed the question presented, we grant transfer.
The "advisement" of rights preceding Youngblood's plea was in a form common at the time. The trial judge asked Young-blood whether his attorney had advised him of his rights. Youngblood said he had. The record of the guilty plea hearing did not contain any other indication that the defendant understood the rights he was waiving by pleading guilty.
Youngblood argues that his plea was taken in derogation of Boykin v. Alabama, 395 U.S. 238, 89 S.Ct. 1709, 23 L.Ed.2d 274 (1969), because the record does not disclose that the defendant knew he was waiving the three specified Boykin rights. In this Court's opinion outlining the standard applicable to post-conviction challenges to guilty pleas, we said: "Of course, unless the record reveals that the defendant knew or was advised at the time of his plea that he was waiving his right to a jury trial, his right of confrontation and his right against self-incrimination, Boykin will require that his conviction be vacated." White v. State (1986), Ind., 497 N.E.2d 893, 905.
Although the record of the guilty plea does not reveal any advisement of the three Boykin rights, during the post-conviction trial the State called the two lawyers who represented Youngblood during 1973. Attorney Al S. Woolbert testified that he had explained to Youngblood the three particular Boykin rights. Attorney *189Walter Dictzen testified that he told Youngblood about self-incrimination and that Youngblood replied he already knew about that because Woolbert had explained his constitutional rights to him. Judge Thomas R. McNichols entered thorough and thoughtful findings in ruling on Youngblood's petition. He found against Youngblood on his claim that he did not know about his Boykin rights.
As this Court's opinion in White notes, procedures such as those contained in Indiana's advisement statute and in Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11 are designed to assure that defendants who plead guilty understand that they possess certain rights and have voluntarily decided to waive them and plead rather than go to trial. These procedures do not create a substantive "right to be advised in open court," the violation of which is itself grounds for collateral relief. See White, 497 N.E.2d at 903; United States v. Timmreck, 441 U.S. 780, 99 S.Ct. 2085, 60 L.Ed.2d 634 (1979).
In writing Boykin for the United States Supreme Court, Justice William O. Douglas explained that requiring a record which reveals a defendant knew about certain rights and waived them was a simple extension of a previously adopted rule concerning waiver of counsel: "Presuming waiver from a silent record is impermissible. The record must show, or there must be an allegation and evidence which show, that an accused was offered counsel but intelligently and understandingly rejected the offer. Anything less is not waiver. Carnley v. Cochran, 369 U.S. 506, 516, 82 S.Ct. 884, 890, 8 L.Ed.2d 70, 77 (1962)." Boykin v. Alabama, 395 U.S. at 242, 89 S.Ct. at 1712, 23 L.Ed.2d at 279.
Just as Justice Douglas explained that knowledge of rights may be reflected either in the original record or through allegation and proof, the federal circuits have held that a defendant's knowing waiver of specific rights may be established through later presentation of evidence. When the original state court record reflected only that the defendant appeared in court and pled guilty, for example, the Fifth Circuit regarded "evidence obtained in a post-conviction hearing as curative of the otherwise defective trial transcript." LeBlanc v. Henderson, 478 F.2d 481, 483 (5th Cir. 1973), cert. denied, 414 U.S. 1146, 94 S.Ct. 900, 39 L.Ed.2d 101 (1974). See also Todd v. Lockhart, 490 F.2d 626, 627 (8th Cir.1974) (when Boykin rights are missing, state post-conviction testimony may "cure the defective plea-taking transcript"); Roddy v. Black, 516 F.2d 1380 (6th Cir.), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 917, 96 S.Ct. 226, 46 L.Ed.2d 147 (1975). Knowing waiver may even be established through an evidentiary hearing during habeas. Fisher v. Wainwright, 435 F.Supp. 253 (M.D.Fla.1977), aff'd, 584 F.2d 691 (5th Cir.1978). Evi dence concerning the defendant's knowledge may be sufficient to establish a voluntary and intelligent waiver even for pleas made decades ago. DesBouillons v. Burke, 418 F.2d 297 (7th Cir.1969) (court may hold evidentiary hearing to determine state of pleader's knowledge 22 years earlier).
Acknowledging that a defective guilty plea transcript may be rehabilitated does not return us to the pre-Boykin practice of assuming that a defendant pled voluntarily and intelligently. As the Eighth Circuit said, it simply means that "once a state prisoner has demonstrated that the plea taking was not conducted in accordance with Boykin, the state may, if it affirmatively proves in a post-conviction hearing that the plea was voluntary and intelligent, obviate the necessity of vacating the plea." Todd v. Lockhart, 490 F.2d at 628.
It was proper for the post-conviction court to admit and weigh evidence concerning Youngblood's knowledge of his constitutional rights at the time he pled guilty.
The decision of the Court of Appeals concerning Youngblood's other allegations of error was also correct and we adopt their resolution of those issues. Appellate Rule 11(B)(3), Ind. Rules of Procedure.
We affirm the decision of the Court of Appeals and the judgment of the trial court.
GIVAN, PIVARNIK and DICKSON, JJ., concur.