dissenting.
I dissent from the majority opinion which holds that (1) defendant waived his right to argue the issue that the trial court erred by allowing the prosecutor to testify without first being sworn; (2) defendant had no right to cross-examine the prosecutor; and (3) the prosecutor’s proffered explanations for exercising the peremptory strike of Ms. Askew challenged under Batson were not merely pretextual.
(1) and (2)
At the Batson hearing, the State was represented by Debra Graves from the Attorney General’s Office. After preliminary matters, the State prepared to proceed to give the prosecutor’s explanation for his peremptory challenge of Askew, to-wit:
[The State]: So what we’d like to do is go ahead and . . . put [the prosecutor] on the witness stand to state his explanation for the remark and his explanation for the excusal of Ms. Askew.
The Court: All right. And the parameters will be what, as far as what defense counsel can ask, if anything; first of all?
[The State]: Well, I don’t believe that his attorney has any right to cross-examine the prosecutor.
The Court: Well, I don’t either, that’s why I asked you.
*12[The State]: North Carolina law does not permit that and we would not agree to it.
.. . [much discussion] .. .
[Defendant’s Attorney]: ... [W]hat I’m saying is in relation to the court’s addressing the issue of my being able to cross-examine the district attorney, as to not what he said at that point in time, but presumably now he is going to take the stand and testify as to his reasons for excusing Ms. Askew.
The Court: Yeah.
[Defendant’s Attorney]: My position is that we would be entitled to cross-examine him because he is taking the witness stand as a witness under oath, not just standing up in front of the court saying this is why I did what I did.
The Court: I understand but I don’t think that’s a determining factor. The bottom line on it is some states let you [cross-examine the prosecutor], North Carolina is not one of those states. . . .
The Court: [T]he mere fact that [the prosecutor] [is] not on the witness stand is irrelevant because if that were the determining factor, you could put him on the witness stand. I mean what stops you from putting him on the witness stand when he stands up and gives [his] explanation ...[?] [The courts] say you can’t do that.
After more discussion, the defense objected to the court allowing the State’s attorney to call the prosecutor to the witness stand for direct examination but not subject to any cross-examination. The prosecutor was then called to the witness stand without being sworn. Ms. Graves proceeded to ask the prosecutor a series of questions which the prosecutor answered. During this direct examination, defendant’s attorney raised an objection which was ruled upon by the trial judge. At the end of the colloquy, defendant’s attorney renewed his objection.
The majority holds that because defendant at no point objected to the fact that the prosecutor was not sworn, defendant has waived his right to object to the prosecutor’s unsworn explanation now. The majority cites State v. Robinson, 310 N.C. 530, 313 S.E.2d 571 for the proposition that a failure to object is fatal to an argument regarding the absence of an oath because it constitutes a waiver. This holding is a *13circular one — if, as the State argued, the trial court ruled, and the majority holds, the prosecutor is not a witness, why would he have been sworn? Defendant objected when the trial judge stated that defendant would not be permitted to cross-examine the prosecutor. I believe that by objecting to the manner in which the prosecutor was being permitted to give his explanation, defendant preserved this argument for review by this Court.
I believe the first holdings of the majority I have referenced above can be resolved by a resolution of whether the prosecutor was serving as a witness by voluntarily taking the witness stand for the purpose of subjecting himself to direct examination. Defendant maintains that the prosecutor was “serving in the capacity of a witness” for the State because of the manner in which the prosecutor conveyed his explanation of the peremptory challenge, i.e., from the witness stand. On the other hand, the State argues that
[t]he prosecutor did not intend to, and did not in fact, offer testimony in this case. He merely offered his explanation for excusing Ms. Askew. The explanation was given by way of a colloquy with Ms. Graves because, in light of the unusual posture of this hearing (on remand [three] years after the trial), the colloquy provided the best vehicle to inform the trial court on the record. This goal could have been accomplished through any number of procedures, including having the prosecutor to make a lengthy speech, or having the prosecutor to engage in the colloquy from his seat at the prosecutor’s table.
After much review, several factors convince me that the prosecutor in the instant case was “serving in the capacity of a witness.” Ms. Graves stated that she was at the hearing at the request of the prosecutor to represent the State in the Batson matter, although the prosecutor was also seated at the State’s table. When the time came for the prosecutor to give his explanation, Ms. Graves announced to the trial court that she would like to “call” the prosecutor. The prosecutor voluntarily took the witness stand and proceeded, through a series of questions and answers, to offer his explanation for the peremptory challenge. At one point while the prosecutor was undergoing direct examination, defendant’s attorney interrupted with an objection to one of Ms. Graves’ questions, and the trial court overruled defendant’s objection. At the end of the State’s questioning, defendant’s attorney renewed his objection, which the trial court denied. I believe that the manner in which the prosecutor’s explanation took place put *14the prosecutor in the position of a witness and that therefore, defendant should have been allowed to cross-examine the prosecutor at the conclusion of direct examination.
I recognize State v. Jackson, 322 N.C. 251, 258, 368 S.E.2d 838, 842 from which the majority quotes that “a defendant who makes a Batson challenge does not have the right to examine the prosecuting attorney[.]” In Jackson, as in the case sub judice, a Batson hearing was held after a trial on remand. Defendant’s trial attorneys and the prosecutors stipulated what had happened at the trial. Defendant attempted to subpoena the prosecutors; these subpoenas were quashed and defendant appealed because of this assignment of error. Therefore, defendant was not allowed to put on evidence at the hearing. On appeal, the Court stated that the question raised by this particular assignment of error was “whether the defendant had the right to examine the prosecutors in a hearing to determine if there has been a Batson violation.” Id. at 257, 368 S.E.2d at 841. The Court held that
a defendant who makes a Batson challenge does not have the right to examine the prosecuting attorney. In balancing the arguments for and against such an examination, we believe the disruption to a trial which could occur if an attorney in a case were called as a witness overbears any good which could be obtained by his testimony. We do not believe we should have a trial within a trial. The presiding judges are capable of passing on the credibility of prosecuting attorneys without the benefit of cross-examination.
Id. at 258, 368 S.E.2d at 842. In so finding, the Court noted that “defendant could . . . have offered evidence to strengthen his case after the State had made its showing.” Id. Jackson is distinguishable. The Court warns of the evil which “could occur if an attorney in a case were called as a witness[.]” For whatever reason, in the instant case, the prosecutor voluntarily allowed himself to be called as a witness, by the State. And once voluntarily subjecting himself as a witness, the prosecutor, under the circumstances of this case, was subject to cross-examination. The trial court in the instant case was of the belief that under no circumstances would the prosecutor be subject to cross-examination by the defense. However, I believe that by voluntarily taking the witness stand, the prosecutor waived the protection given him by Jackson prohibiting examination of him by the defense. He thereby subjected himself to cross-examination.
*15Therefore, I believe defendant’s rights to due process and equal protection of the laws under the United States Constitution, the North Carolina Constitution, and the North Carolina Rules of Evidence have been violated because the prosecutor, as a witness, was permitted to testify during the hearing without first being sworn, and because defendant did not have the right to cross-examine the prosecutor. However, notwithstanding the trial court’s erroneous rulings regarding the witness oath and cross-examination, the record is sufficient and abundantly clear for appellate review to decide the Batson issue.
(3)
Next, I address the majority’s holding that the prosecutor’s proffered explanations for exercising the peremptory strike of Ms. Askew challenged under Batson were not merely pretextual. In the first appeal of this case, State v. Hall, 104 N.C. App. 395, 410 S.E.2d 76, the only explanatory statement the prosecutor offered as his race-neutral explanation for his alleged discrimination was as follows:
And as far as — my impression — my impression when I came up there, it was my impression there was a black juror and a white— and a white juror left in the jury panel and there was not a black female or a female at all left.
I was trying to determine who — who was left. I had three left and two were — two were men and one was a woman, and I had— and apparently there were two women and one men — one man. And I had it backwards, and that’s what I was trying to determine who was left as best I could.
Id. at 378-79, 410 S.E.2d at 78. This Court noted that the prosecutor’s explanatory statement was not offered during the voir dire examination, but was made during the trial court’s hearing on the Batson violation. This Court then stated:
The prosecutor’s statement may have adequately explained the meaning of his question [if “there was a white male out there”], but the trial court should have considered the statement, not for whether the defendant made a prima facie showing, but for whether the prosecutor adequately rebutted the [defendant’s] prima facie showing.
Id. at 384, 410 S.E.2d at 81.
In that this Court concluded that the trial court did not consider the prosecutor’s proffered race-neutral explanation for his alleged *16discrimination in the proper context, the Court remanded the case to the trial level for a trial judge to determine
whether the prosecutor’s explanation [within the record] for his peremptory challenge of Askew was race-neutral. If the trial court finds that the prosecutor’s explanation [within the record] was not race-neutral, [defendant] is entitled to a new trial. If the trial court finds that the prosecutor’s explanation for his peremptory challenge was race-neutral, [defendant] shall be given an opportunity to demonstrate that the explanation was a mere pretext. If [defendant] meets his ultimate burden of proving purposeful discrimination, he is entitled to a new trial. If not, the trial court will order commitment to issue in accordance with the judgment appealed from and entered on 12 July 1990.
State v. Hall, 104 N.C. App. at 384, 410 S.E.2d at 81.
I take issue with the majority’s statement that, in Hall, our Court remanded “for an evidentiary hearing” to determine whether the prosecutor’s explanation for the peremptory challenge was race-neutral. The mandate in Hall was for the trial court to determine “whether the prosecutor’s explanation [within the record] for his peremptory challenge of Askew was race-neutral.” (Emphasis added.) It is clear in Hall that this Court did not intend for the trial court, on remand, to have the prosecutor restate and certainly not to embellish his prior explanatory statement for his alleged discrimination and peremptory challenge of Ms. Askew. The prosecutor had three years to consider the issue involved. In short, the Hall Court concluded that the trial court erred in not considering the prosecutor’s statement in the proper context, that is, whether his explanatory statement adequately rebutted the prima facie case shown by defendant. The trial court had only considered it in the context of whether defendant had made out a prima facie case of discrimination. Because of that error, this Court remanded the case for the trial court to consider the prosecutor’s statement of record in the proper context. Perhaps the prosecutor would have been better off not to have proffered additional explanatory statements three years later, that were never mentioned or even alluded to in the least, at the original trial when he gave his explanatory statement. A more appropriate time would have been at the time of the trial when the matters unquestionably should have been fresh in his memory. Attempting to restate his original explanation, which was of record, and giving additional explanatory statements, were *17neither warranted by the prosecutor nor intended by this Court’s remand.
As this Court noted in Hall, the prosecutor’s original statement, considered in the proper context, may have adequately explained the meaning of his question, thereby refuting an inference of discrimination. However, on remand, the trial court conducted a full Batson hearing from beginning to end, resulting in not only the consideration of the prosecutor’s original statement, but also his two additional explanatory statements. After considering the prosecutor’s explanatory statements, the trial court found and concluded that the statements were race-neutral; that defendant had failed to carry his burden of showing that the prosecutor’s explanations were pretex-tual; and that the prosecutor’s excusal of Ms. Askew was a legitimate use of a peremptory challenge.
Now, we address the issue of whether purposeful discrimination occurred. It is interesting to note that the prosecutor’s original explanatory statement was that he was trying, as best he could, to determine who was left in the jury pool; that it was his impression there was a black juror and a white juror left and that neither of the two was a female. The prosecutor further stated that it was his impression that there were two men and one woman left in the pool, but that apparently he had it backwards because there were two women and one man left in the pool.
When questioned at the hearing as to what he asked the clerk and what he meant by his question prior to excusing Ms. Askew, the prosecutor responded:
Because I think at this point in time, the defense had released— they had used up their last challenge, as I recall. I was looking for a leader on the jury panel, someone who would be able to be the leader. And in my opinion, the ones that were up there, that we had selected, would be good jurors. But I thought that the nature of this case with three defense lawyers and the fact of the type of case that it was, I was interested in hopefully having someone— looking for someone who would be a foreman or a foreperson.
[The State:] What did you mean when you asked that question to the [clerk] about was there a white man out there?
[The Prosecutor:] I thought — I was not sure approximately how many folks were out there. There was two women and one man or two men and one woman. And Mr. Cowan had told me — we *18had gotten toward the end and Mr. Cowan had told me there was a white person who was out there and this person would make a good leader and that was toward the end of the jury selection.
It is clear from the prosecutor’s response on remand above that he had two stated concerns which prompted him to make his questionable remark to the clerk: (1) he was looking for a leader on the jury panel and Mr. Cowan had told him about a white person in the jury pool who would make a good leader; and (2) he was confused about the number of persons remaining in the jury pool. The prosecutor’s statement about looking for a leader and what Mr. Cowan told him is a more direct response to his question to the clerk than his statement about being confused about the number of persons remaining in the jury pool. However, when called upon at trial to explain his remark that he had made to the clerk, his sole response was in essence that he was confused about the number of persons remaining in the jury pool. It is most interesting to note that when the matter was fresh on his mind at trial, his explanatory statement never included anything about looking for a leader or anything that Mr. Cowan or anyone else had told him. His stated concern about leadership was made for the first time three years thereafter. Most assuredly his recall was better at trial as opposed to three years later.
As to the specific question at the hearing regarding his excusal of Ms. Askew, the prosecutor was asked and responded:
[The State:] All right. Now specifically when it came to your examination of Ms. Askew, can you recall why you excused Ms. Askew?
[The Prosecutor:] Well, the thing with Ms. Askew as I recall, also from looking at the transcript, I think that she had testified in the voir dire she said that she worked at Perdue for about eight years. She was single and had one son, seven years old. There were two things that concerned me about Ms. Askew, one is that she did not appear to be a leader, would not appear to be a leader on this particular jury. And the second thing that concerned me was that Mr. Cowan had told me that. . . where she resided, there was some people in the home in which she resided that had to do with drugs. And I was concerned about any juror who would be on— any juror who had in [sic] connection with drugs or involved with drugs whatsoever. And that also concerned me. For those two reasons, I excused her.
*19Here it appears that at the hearing the prosecutor had two stated concerns with Ms. Askew, neither of which appears in any manner on the record of jury selection: (1) that she did not appear to be a leader, and (2) that a reliable source had told him that there were people in the home in which she lived that had a connection with drugs. The prosecutor’s first concern was apparently just a “hunch.” No questions were asked of Ms. Askew to determine if she was a leader or possessed leadership-type qualities, although these questions were asked to other potential jurors. Because the prosecutor did not make any inquires to determine whether Ms. Askew was a leader or possessed leadership-type qualities, there is nothing on the record showing that this “hunch” was race-neutral. Compare U.S. v. Horsley, 864 F.2d 1543 (11th Cir. 1989) (where the prosecutor’s explanation that “I just got a feeling about him” was legally insufficient to refute a prima facie case of purposeful racial discrimination). Further, I find persuasive the testimony by Mr. Overton, one of the defense attorneys involved in the trial of the case. Mr Overton testified that immediately after the clerk of court called the name of Ms. Askew, “I recall [the prosecutor] getting up at that point and coming towards the bench where the two clerks were sitting. My recollection of what he said was that... he said, you were supposed to call the white man or you should have called the white man.” It appears that the prosecutor asked his question of the clerk immediately upon recognizing that Ms. Askew was black. Apparently the prosecutor had this “hunch” before he even asked Ms. Askew a single question.
The prosecutor’s second concern, similarly, does not appear in any manner on the record of jury selection. There was not a single question asked to Ms. Askew which related to drugs or drug use. I recognize that the prosecutor’s explanation for this was that Deputy Cowan had told him this information about Ms. Askew. I also recognize that the prosecutor was not required to ask Ms. Askew any questions about anything. However, the record shows that four people ultimately seated on the jury were related to or had friends who were not just known to use drugs, but who had been criminally charged with drug violations. Under these circumstances, and considering the prosecutor’s stated concerns, I find very troublesome the absence of any questions, within the record of jury selection, related to drug use during questioning of Ms. Askew and the absence of any reference to anything Deputy Cowan allegedly told the prosecutor.
The prosecutor excused Ms. Askew without the first question that would indicate her leadership abilities or lack thereof. He did not ask *20Ms. Askew any questions regarding the rumor Deputy Cowan told him about people in her home having a connection with drugs. I also note that at trial the prosecutor had ample opportunity to bring to the court’s attention any concerns that he had as a result of any information given to him by Deputy Cowan. In the first appeal of this case, this Court noted that the jury was excused from the courtroom immediately after the prosecutor asked his question of the clerk regarding “a white male” in order for the court to hear motions. Defendant then made a Batson motion, citing as support the question the prosecutor asked of the clerk.
It appears to me that if the prosecutor was genuinely concerned about alleged drug use in Ms. Askew’s home or Mr. Phelps’ leadership abilities, when attempting to explain his reason for his comment to the clerk, he would have stated or made some reference to those concerns contemporaneously with his first explanatory statement of record. Instead, the record is devoid of any reference to his subsequent two concerns which should have been fresh on his mind and not only subject to recall three years later. This is not plausible and flies in the face of credulity.
I recognize that “[s]o long as the motive does not appear to be racial discrimination, the prosecutor may exercise peremptory challenges on the basis of ‘legitimate “hunches” and past experiences.’ ” State v. Porter, 326 N.C. 489, 498, 391 S.E.2d 144, 151 (1990) (quoting State v. Antwine, 743 S.W.2d 51, 65 (Mo. 1987) (en banc), cert. denied, 486 U.S. 1017, 100 L.Ed.2d 217 (1988)). I also note that while the ultimate racial makeup of the jury is not dispositive, it is relevant. State v. Smith, 328 N.C. 99, 400 S.E.2d 712 (1991). However, the fact that the jury in the instant case contained eight black jurors does not address the issue at hand, whether the excusal of Ms. Askew was for racial reasons. Batson protects against the excusal of any juror for reasons of race, regardless of the racial make-up of the other members of the jury. I believe a review of the jury selection process shows that the prosecutor never intended to keep Ms. Askew, a black woman, on the jury. The prosecutor clearly intended to excuse Ms. Askew solely for the purpose of seating a “white male” on the jury. His actions were clearly racially motivated. This is buttressed by the further fact that, although the prosecutor asked Mr. Phelps more detailed questions than he asked Ms. Askew, he did not ask Mr. Phelps any question that would tend to show his leadership abilities or lack thereof. Batson is to protect against this type of purposeful discrimination.
*21The majority asks, “How plausible is it that the prosecutor would use racially discriminatory tactics to exclude blacks where not only defendant, but Judge Hudson, Deputy Cowan, and two of the State’s key witnesses were also black?” My response to that question is, how plausible is it that the prosecutor, immediately after recognizing that the next juror called was black, would ask, “is there a white male out there?”, in front of eight black jurors, defendant, Judge Hudson, Deputy Cowan, and two of the State’s key witnesses, all of whom were also black? I guess the majority would answer, not very plausible! But yet, it happened. The majority opinion overlooks the fact that discrimination does not always take place in an overt form. As a matter of fact, in today’s time it seldom does. It can, and often does take place in a quiet, subliminal or subtle fashion. I ask, is the emperor wearing new clothes? The answer is no. As much as we would like to have a society in which discrimination does not exist, we are not there.
As previously stated, this Court held that the. prosecutor’s original explanatory statement, considered in its proper context, may have adequately explained the meaning of his question to the clerk and his subsequent peremptory challenge of Ms. Askew. See State v. -Hall. In my opinion, although the prosecutor’s original explanatory statement seems confusing and totally unrelated to the question he asks the clerk, it appears to be race-neutral. A prosecutor’s explanatory statements do not have to make sense so long as they are race-neutral. Purkett v. Elem, 63 U.S.L.W. 3814 (U.S. May 15, 1995) (No. 94-802). The evidence is manifestly clear and uncontradicted that the prosecutor’s action was racially motivated; and, a review of the jury selection process, all of the prosecutor’s explanatory statements, and defendant’s evidence in rebuttal leads to the inescapable conclusion that the prosecutor’s explanatory statements were pretextual.
The prosecutor’s comment to the clerk and his subsequent action are unfortunate. To my knowledge, they appear to be out of character for this prosecutor. However, the record speaks for itself and we must view the record as it in fact appears before us.
Since Batson was decided, no case in this State has been found to have a Batson error. Although I do not quarrel with those decisions, if Batson is to have any meaning, then the facts of this case most assuredly fit a Batson violation.
I therefore vote to award defendant a new trial.