concurring.
My notes reflect that on July 17, 1985, at least four members of this Court voted to grant the petition for discretionary review that was filed on behalf of Thomas Joseph Nelson, henceforth appellant, solely to resolve the apparent conflict between this Court’s decisions of Chavez v. State, 508 S.W.2d 384 (Tex.Cr.App.1974), and Brumfield v. State, 445 S.W.2d 732 (Tex.Cr.App. 1969).
For reasons that I will give, I find that there is no conflict between Chavez, supra, and Brumfield, supra, and that the “spirit” of Brumfield, supra, mandates that this Court reverse the judgments of the court of appeals and the trial court. The majority opinion does just that. Therefore, I concur in the result that the majority opinion reaches.
The majority opinion states the following: “For this Court or any other appellate court to find that testimony adduced at any hearing held outside the presence of the jury’s presence was given solely for apparent purpose of the hearing, and no other, mil not necessarily make that testimony forever immune from adverse use against an accused." (At p. 403.) (Emphasis supplied.) I assume by this statement that the majority opinion means that a defendant who testifies during such a hearing can, through various ways such as “opening the door” or failing to object, waive any complaint about the later introduction into evidence of his testimony. The majority opinion later holds: “[A]n accused testifying before a jury on the issue of guilt retains the right to reclaim his privilege to exclude any testimony given by him in a hearing conducted by the trial judge outside the presence of the jury in order to hear voir dire testimony the State proposes to offer against accused, and the trial court rules his testimony inadmissible for its intended purpose and withholds it from the jury. See Tex.R.Cr.Evid., Rule 104(d).” (Footnote 4 deleted.) To me, the former statement appears to be a qualified statement, without stating what the qualifications are, whereas the latter does not have any qualifications. Nevertheless, I wholeheartedly agree with the holding that the majority opinion makes.
As authority for its holding, the majority opinion appears to rely totally upon Rule 104(d), Tex.R.Cr.Evid., which was copied from Federal Rule 104(d). Some of the “experts” on the latter inform us that “[t]he rule does not address questions of the subsequent use of testimony given by an accused at a hearing on a preliminary matter....” Rothstein, Rules of Evidence for the United States Courts and Magistrates, (Clark Boardman Company, Ltd.), at page 27. Also see Cotchett and Elkind, Federal Courtroom Evidence (Parker & Son Publications, Inc.), at page 20.
The “experts”, however, appear to agree that the purpose of the rule is to encourage full participation by the accused in preliminary hearings, without fear that any testimony that the defendant gives during such a hearing will later be used against him. This comports with what this Court stated and held in, for example, Franklin v. State, 606 S.W.2d 818, 845 (Tex.Cr.App. 1979). Evidentiary rules, except those with respect to privileges, are inapplicable to preliminary hearings held outside the jury’s presence. The accused who testifies at *407such a hearing is subject to full cross-examination by the prosecuting attorney on the “preliminary matter”. Weinstein and Berger, Weinstein’s Evidence Manual (Matthew Bender), at § 3.01[04]. In the interest of fairness, and in the spirit of the rule, unless the accused fails to object or complain to the later offer of such testimony by the prosecution, the prosecution should not be permitted to use that testimony or evidence in a substantive manner; otherwise, to permit the later introduction of the defendant’s testimony to be used as substantive evidence against him, when such testimony or evidence was given for a specific and limited purpose at the hearing, would clearly discourage, and not encourage, participation by the accused in preliminary hearings conducted outside of the jury’s presence.
I pause to point out that conducting preliminary hearings outside of the jury’s presence in order to determine the admissibility of evidence is not really a modem invention of our law. Such hearings have been held since time immemorial. It is only as a result of the “Warren Court” decisions such as Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. 377, 88 S.Ct. 967, 19 L.Ed. 2d 1247 (1968), and Jackson v. Denno, 378 U.S. 368, 84 S.Ct. 1774, 12 L.Ed.2d 908 (1964); this Court’s decisions of Lopez v. State, 384 S.W.2d 345 (Tex.Cr.App.1964); Martinez v. State, 437 S.W.2d 842 (Tex.Cr. App.1969), and Bosley v. State, 414 S.W.2d 468 (Tex.Cr.App.1967); and the advent of the 1965 Code of Criminal Procedure, in particular see Art. 28.01, V.A.C.C.P., that preliminary hearings conducted outside the jury’s presence have now been emphasized. See the discussion on this subject found in Franklin, supra. Also see Myre v. State, 545 S.W.2d 820, 825 (Tex.Cr.App.1977).
My research to date reveals that this case unquestionably does not nicely fit within the parameters of any prior decision of this Court or any other court that I can find. Thus, the majority opinion’s lack of authority to support its holding is understandable.
The record of this cause reflects that during the guilt stage of the trial, when appellant was testifying on cross-examination in the jury’s presence, the trial judge removed the jury and conducted a preliminary hearing outside of the jury’s presence in order to make the sole determination whether the prosecuting attorney could impeach appellant during his cross-examination with criminal convictions that appellant had previously sustained. Appellant testified at the hearing concerning two criminal convictions that he had sustained; one in 1968 for the felony offense of carrying a concealed weapon and a court martial conviction in 1961 or 1962. There is nothing in the hearing that might reflect or indicate that the prosecution intended to later offer appellant’s testimony into evidence at the punishment stage of the trial in the event he was found guilty by the jury, nor was appellant admonished that such might occur. After the hearing, the trial judge sustained appellant’s objections, on the ground that his prior criminal convictions were too remote for impeachment purposes, and refused to permit the prosecuting attorney to impeach appellant with the prior criminal convictions. For a discussion on the subject of remoteness, see McClendon v. State, 509 S.W.2d 851, 854 (Tex.Cr.App.1974) (On appellant’s motion for rehearing). Also see Rule 609(b), Tex. R.Cr.Evid. The record reflects that at no time thereafter did appellant waive his complaint that the State should not have been permitted to use the testimony that appellant gave at the hearing in order to establish appellant’s prior criminal record at the punishment stage of the trial.
After appellant was found guilty, the trial judge conducted a punishment hearing. Appellant did not testify at this stage of his trial, as was his right. The trial judge, over objection, permitted the prosecuting attorney to call the court reporter, who took down the testimony that appellant gave at the above preliminary hearing about his prior criminal convictions, to testify. She then testified in the jury’s presence about appellant’s prior criminal convictions by reading the notes of appellant’s testimony that she had taken at the preliminary hearing that was held during the guilt stage of the trial. There is nothing in the *408record that might reflect or indicate that the State could not have proved up at the punishment stage of the trial appellant’s prior criminal convictions through other means. See Beck v. State, 719 S.W.2d 205, 209-210 (Tex.Cr.App.1986), for a discussion of the many, many ways that the State might prove up a defendant’s prior criminal record at the punishment stage of the trial without using the defendant’s testimony. Also see Art. 37.07, V.A.C.C.P. As to the court martial conviction, if properly proved up, a court martial conviction is admissible pursuant to Art. 37.07, supra. See Johnson v. State, 432 S.W.2d 98, 100 (Tex.Cr.App.1968).
On direct appeal, the court of appeals relied upon Chavez, supra, as its authority to reject appellant’s contention that his testimony that was given at the preliminary hearing at the guilt stage of his trial should not have been admitted at the punishment stage of his trial through the court reporter. However, it did not mention or discuss the applicability of Brumfield, supra, to the issue. See that court’s unpublished opinion in Nelson v. State, Tex.App-2nd, No. 2-83-315-CR, November 21, 1984.
Brumfield v. State, supra, held that a defendant who testifies at the guilt stage of a jury trial may not be recalled by the prosecuting attorney at the punishment stage of the trial. “The spirit, if not the letter of Jackson v. Denno, 378 U.S. 368, 84 S.Ct. 1774, 12 L.Ed.2d 908 [1964], [also see Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. 377, 88 S.Ct. 967, 19 L.Ed.2d 1247 (1969)], would seem [to permit a defendant to testify at one stage of the trial but not the other in our bifurcated trial system].” (445 S.W.2d at 741).
In his petition for discretionary review, appellant repeated verbatim his “ground of error number one” in his “Ground for Review No. One (1).” In fact, I find that counsel for appellant’s petition for discretionary review is nothing other than a xerox copy of his brief that he filed in the court of appeals when the cause was on direct appeal. The State, in its reply to appellant’s petition for discretionary review, correctly asserted the following:
“Initially, the State notes that Appellant does not directly address the Court of Appeals opinion; but instead simply provides this Court with a word-for-word rendition of the written brief submitted to the lower court.” (Page 4, State’s Reply to the Petition for Review.) Of course, when this Court considers whether or not to grant a petition for discretionary review, its primary focus and attention at that time is upon the opinion of the particular court of appeals, to see if it correctly stated and applied the law to the facts of the case and to the issue that needed to be resolved. Therefore, I admonish any party who seeks to have this Court grant his or her petition for discretionary review that they should take this into consideration in carefully preparing the petition for discretionary review and the accompanying brief, if any.
Appellant’s counsel in his brief before this Court argues, inter alia, that “The Court of Appeals clearly erred in failing to reverse the conviction and remand the cause for a new trial for the violation at the punishment phase of the Appellant’s privilege against self-incrimination.” (Page 14 of “Appellant’s Brief on the Merits.”) It appears to me that the majority opinion -has substantively adopted virtually all of the State’s arguments that are set out in the “State’s Brief on the Merits”, and because most of what the State argues in its brief can be found in the majority opinion I will not repeat those arguments.
The State, as does the majority opinion, appears to acknowledge that what occurred in this cause does not literally fit the factual situations found in Chavez, supra, or in Brumfield, supra. I agree. However, the “spirit”, if not the letter, of Brumfield, supra, controls how the issue should be resolved.
In Brumfield v. State, supra, the defendant testified at the guilt stage of his jury trial in an intelligent, knowing, and voluntary manner. The opinion makes implicit the fact that the defendant had sustained several prior criminal convictions, but none of them were available for impeachment purposes because they did not involve either felony convictions or misdemeanor *409convictions involving crimes of moral turpitude. Over objection, the State called the defendant to testify at the punishment stage of the trial, to prove up his prior criminal convictions for punishment purposes. See Art. 37.07, supra. On original submission, and also on State’s motion for rehearing, this Court held that the State should not have, over objection, recalled the defendant to testify at the punishment stage of the trial “for further cross-examination”, and ordered the trial court’s judgment reversed and the cause remanded for a new trial. This Court held that a defendant in a criminal prosecution, though he may waive his right of self-incrimination at the guilt stage of the trial by testifying intelligently, knowingly, and voluntarily at that stage of the trial, may not be compelled to give evidence against himself at the punishment stage of the trial merely because he testified at the guilt stage.
In a real, though not literal sense, what happened to the defendant in Brumfield, supra, is actually what happened to the appellant in this cause, as the appellant in this cause was forced to testify against himself at the punishment stage of the trial through the mouth of the court reporter; i.e., when the court reporter testified at the punishment stage of the trial she merely repeated the testimonial evidence that appellant had given at the limited hearing that was held outside the jury’s presence during the guilt stage of his trial on the admissibility of appellant’s prior criminal convictions for impeachment purposes. As previously pointed out, the trial judge ruled after the hearing that the State could not impeach appellant with his prior criminal convictions because they were too remote.
Because the court of appeals relied upon this Court’s decision of Chavez, supra, as its authority to reject appellant’s contention, it is necessary to scrutinize what this Court stated and held in Chavez, supra.
The facts that are set out in Chavez, supra, reflect that the defendant was first tried and convicted on his plea of guilty to the then capital offense of rape in a non-bifurcated trial. The defendant testified at his trial, unsuccessfully attempting to cause the jury not to assess him the death penalty. This Court affirmed. See Chavez v. State, 408 S.W.2d 714 (Tex.Cr.App.1966). Subsequently, after finding that the trial judge’s admonishments were insufficient under the law that then existed, this Court granted the defendant a new trial. See Ex parte Chavez, 482 S.W.2d 175 (Tex.Cr.App. 1972). The defendant was retried, but this time he pled not guilty and did not testify, after which the jury found him guilty of committing the offense of rape. The trial judge assessed his punishment at 60 years’ confinement in the Department of Corrections. During the trial, the State was permitted over objection to introduce the defendant’s testimony that he had given at his first trial. On appeal, this Court rejected the defendant’s contention that the trial judge erred in admitting into evidence his testimony that he gave at his first trial, applying to appellant’s contention the rule that “an accused who takes the stand waives the privilege [of self-incrimination], so that his testimony may be used against him at a subsequent trial of the same case.” (386). The cases that this Court relied upon as its authority to reject the defendant’s contention, however, are inap-posite to the issue that was before this Court to resolve. Thus, Chavez’ foundation resembles quick sand. In fact, a close reading of the authorities cited in Chavez, supra, makes it clear that virtually every single authority cited in Chavez, supra, only concerned the admissibility of a defendant’s confession that was properly admitted into evidence at the defendant’s first trial and then reoffered into evidence at his retrial. In rejecting the defendant’s contention, this Court obviously made a poor analogy to the confession statute that was then extant. The law then provided that if the defendant intelligently, knowingly, and voluntarily gives a confession, such confession is admissible evidence even though the defendant does not testify at his trial. Cf. Wooley v. State, 64 S.W. 1054 (Tex.Cr.App. 1901). Thus, because the defendant’s “confession” was properly admitted into evidence at his first trial, it became admissible at his retrial.
*410It is axiomatic that when a defendant testifies during the guilt stage of his trial he is on the stand for all purposes, i.e., he may be contradicted, impeached, discredited, made to give damaging and incriminating evidence against himself, cross-examined as to new matter, and treated in every respect as any other witness who testifies, except when there are overriding constitutional or statutory prohibitions. Brown v. State, 617 S.W.2d 234, 236 (Tex.Cr.App. 1981). If a defendant is tried and convicted, during which trial he testifies, and he later receives a new trial and is retried, and he testifies at the retrial, his testimony at the first trial may be used to impeach him. However, the fact that a defendant chooses to testify at the guilt stage of his trial, but not at the punishment stage of his trial, does not constitute a waiver of his right not to testify at the latter stage of the trial. He still maintains that right. See Brown v. State, supra. That is what occurred in this cause. Conversely, if the defendant chooses not to testify at the guilt stage of the trial, but testifies at the punishment stage of the trial, he is to be treated as any other witness who testifies at that stage of the trial. Also see Sweeten v. State, 693 S.W.2d 454 (Tex.Cr.App.1985), where this Court held that even where a defendant testifies intelligently, knowingly, and voluntarily at the guilt stage of the trial he does not waive his claim of error to the erroneous admission of an illegally obtained confession into evidence by offering into evidence at that stage of his trial the exculpatory portions of the confession.
The facts of Chavez, supra, and the issue that was before the Court to resolve in that cause are clearly inapposite to the facts and the issue to be resolved in this cause, and the court of appeals erred in relying upon Chavez, supra, as its authority to reject appellant’s contention.
The holding that was made in Stratman v. State, 436 S.W.2d 144 (Tex.Cr.App.1969), which had been decided by this Court before it decided Brumfield, supra, must be mentioned. In Stratman, supra, this .Court held that in a bench trial it was permissible for the State to recall the defendant to testify at the “punishment” stage of his bifurcated trial. Given this Court’s later criticism of the holding that was made in Stratman, supra, whether Stratman, supra, should be cited, much less discussed, may be seriously questioned.
In Walker v. State, 555 S.W.2d 454 (Tex.Cr.App.1977), this Court questioned the continuing viability of the holding that was made in Stratman, supra: “We agree with the plurality’s concern [as expressed in Brumfield, supra,] and would adopt a decision to overrule Stratman to the extent of any conflict.” (457). In Walker, supra, the following was also pointed out: “The plurality in Brumfield, while agreeing that Stratman was correctly decided, did not agree that when a defendant takes the stand at the trial on the issue of guilt and the State fails to utilize certain convictions available to it for purposes of impeachment of the defendant’s credibility as a witness in his own behalf, the State would then be permitted to recall the defendant at the penalty hearing and interrogate him about such convictions in order to prove his prior criminal record. The plurality [in Brumfield, supra,] was concerned that such a reading of Stratman would permit an extension of its holding to allow the recall of a defendant as a witness for the State if the evidence would have been admissible at the guilt stage for impeachment purposes.” (457).
The “spirit” of Brumfield, supra, is clearly applicable to this cause, and that “spirit” has been applied by this Court in several of its more recent decisions.
In Brown v. State, supra, this Court held that where a request is made to the trial court to add to its charge at the punishment stage of the trial an instruction on the failure of the defendant to testify at that stage of the trial, and the ferial judge refuses, such error is reversible error. In Brown, supra, this Court rejected the State’s contention that because the trial judge had given such an instruction at the guilt stage of the trial this automatically carried over to the punishment stage of the trial.
*411I must reemphasize that we are not in this cause dealing with a retrial where evidence was freely, intelligently, knowingly, and voluntarily given by the defendant in the jury’s presence at his first trial and that same evidence was admitted into evidence on retrial. In this instance, during the guilt stage of the trial the trial judge ordered a hearing to be conducted outside the presence of the jury in order to make the sole determination whether the prosecuting attorney could cross-examine appellant in the jury’s presence about two criminal convictions that he had previously sustained. After conducting the hearing, which was clearly a “limited” hearing, the trial judge ruled that because of remoteness the prosecuting attorney would not be permitted to impeach appellant with those convictions in the presence of the jury. However, the State, at the later punishment hearing that was conducted after the jury had found appellant guilty of the alleged offense, over objection, introduced into evidence through the court reporter who recorded appellant’s testimony at the hearing that was held outside the jury’s presence the testimony that appellant had given at that hearing.
What happened in this cause is clearly the functional equivalent of the State recalling a defendant to testify at the punishment stage of the trial about his prior criminal convictions. To approve what happened in this cause would defeat if not outright banish from our law the “spirit” of Brumfield, supra, as well as virtually destroy the right of a defendant to actively participate in a hearing conducted outside the jury’s presence that does not concern some federal constitutional claim or some state constitutional or statutory claim. Of course, if the trial judge in this cause had admonished appellant, prior to his testifying at the preliminary hearing, that any testimony that he gave at the hearing concerning his prior convictions would become admissible at the punishment stage of the trial, if any, then perhaps another question would be before this Court for it to answer. However, no such admonishment occurred in this cause.
The issue that is before us to resolve is not whether under Art. 37.07, supra, the State could have proved up by independent testimony appellant’s prior criminal convictions at the punishment stage of his trial, because it is clear under our statutory and case law that it could have done just that. See Beck v. State, 719 S.W.2d 205, 209-211 (Tex.Cr.App.1986), which discusses the many, many ways that the State may establish a defendant’s prior criminal record. The issue instead is whether the evidence about appellant’s prior criminal convictions that was adduced at the hearing that was held outside the jury’s presence, and that concerned the sole issue of whether appellant could be impeached in the presence of the jury with his prior criminal convictions, became admissible evidence at the punishment stage of the trial.
Presiding Judge Onion pointed out in Brumfield, supra, that our bifurcated trial system amounts to two trials with each stage serving different functions and purposes, with the consequences of error not necessarily related to the other. Also see Ex parte Augusta, 689 S.W.2d 481 (Tex.Cr. App.1982). More important to the issue here is what Presiding Judge Onion pointed out in Brumfield, supra, on page 740 of his opinion for the Court:
[Wjhere the defendant has taken the stand at the guilt stage of the proceedings and any part of his prior criminal record is properly used for impeachment or is otherwise legally introduced, the same need not be re-introduced at the hearing on punishment. Such evidence may be properly considered by the judge or jury assessing the penalty. (My emphasis.)
I believe that what the above statement means is that it is only when the jury has heard evidence that was ruled admissible by the trial judge that it may consider such evidence at the punishment stage of the trial. In this instance, the jury did not hear about appellant’s prior criminal convictions at the guilt stage of his trial.
Presiding Judge Onion further pointed out the following in Brumfield, supra:
*412If Article 37.07, V.A.C.C.P., can be interpreted as providing two separate proceedings then it follows that a defendant’s waiver of his privilege against self-incrimination by taking the stand at the guilt stage is limited to that particular proceeding ... And if this is so the court erred in permitting the State to recall the appellant for further cross-examination at the penalty stage. The mere finding of guilt does not terminate the privilege against self-incrimination. As earlier noted, the privilege ceases only when liability to punishment no longer exists. (445 S.W.2d at 741).
Also see Ex parte Augusta, supra.
In sum, what the State was permitted to do in this cause was the functional equivalent of recalling the appellant to testify over his objection at the punishment stage of the trial. The trial court clearly erred in permitting this to occur. Brumfield, supra; Brown, supra.
The “spirit” of Brumfield, supra, Simmons, supra, and Jackson v. Denno, supra, and other such cases “would seem to require no less” than that the State could not recall appellant to testify at the punishment stage of his trial. In this instance, the State was erroneously permitted to do indirectly what this Court held in Brumfield, supra, that it could not do directly. E.G., Montoya v. State, 744 S.W.2d 15, 34 (Tex.Cr.App.1987), and Ex parte Augusta, supra. Compare Johnson v. State, 704 S.W.2d 139 (Tex.App. 9th 1986) (State’s P.D.R. refused). But see Walker v. State, 555 S.W.2d 454, 457. Also see Moss v. State, 632 S.W.2d 344 (Tex.Cr.App.1982); Stewart v. State, 666 S.W.2d 548, 549 (Tex.App. 5th 1984) (State’s P.D.R. refused); Pierson v. State, 689 S.W.2d 481, 483 (Tex.App. 14th 1985) (State’s P.D.R. refused).
Therefore, I concur in the result that the majority opinion reaches, that the trial judge reversibly erred in admitting into evidence at the punishment stage of the trial through the court reporter the testimony that appellant had given at the hearing that was conducted outside of the jury’s presence during the guilt stage of the trial.
MILLER, J., joins this opinion.